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Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?  
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

The University has evidently moved fast with millions to make it up to the three primary players who were indicted. However what are they going to do with the team they canceled, the coach they fired, or the faculty who got together to destroy the students falsely accused?

Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused? They demanded justice and then said specifically what their justice meant. They were wrong and are now not commenting..... probably because they've been told to shut up by the administration, but that doesn't slow them down when they feel like they're right about something.

I'm waiting for them to apologize publicly with the same force as they condemned without trial or hearing.


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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9405 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

hey, Farmer Bounce, did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?  Wink


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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will The "Group Of 88" Apologize?

You know the answer to that. Of course not. These radical leftist are quick to talk about justice and equality when it suits them but have no notion that justice and equality before the law means that they themselves cannot rush to justice.

I for one hope that these players got a really nice pay day from Duke.


User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?

Excellent book; one of my favourite childhood stories.


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2141 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
I'm waiting for them to apologize publicly with the same force as they condemned without trial or hearing.

Me too, but.....

Quoting Pope (Reply 2):
You know the answer to that.

Along with them, there are a couple of media whores I'd like to hear an apology from as well.


User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 995 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

What university, and what "group of 88" is this?


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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2113 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 5):
What university, and what "group of 88" is this?

A group of professors and other people affiliated with Duke University called themselves the Group of 88 and took out full page ad's in newspapers immediately after the arrest of the 3 lacross players who were indicited on rape charges. Those rape charges were eventually dismissed by the State's Attorney general after he took the case over from the local prosecuter who was accused of misconduct. The AG eventually declared the players "totally innocent" of the charges and the local district attorney was disbarred this past weekend.

The Group of 88 condemned the players without any knowledge of the facts and have now been very silent since they were exhonorated.


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

Sure they will when


Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
Pigs fly
Hell freezes over


User currently offlineFlyorski From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 995 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2101 times:

Quoting Pope (Reply 6):
The Group of 88 condemned the players without any knowledge of the facts and have now been very silent since they were exhonorated.

Thanks for filling me in. Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.  Wow!



"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsly believe they are free" -Goethe
User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

Welcome to America


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

There is a giant rush to condemn a certain category of citizen here in this country for any crime of which they are accused of committing. The protected academic class which is generally unfettered by discretion or decency often takes it upon themselves to throw their "intellectual might and capital" behind whatever cause suits their hippie/socialist bent and doesn't always take little things like facts and due process into account.

I'm overgeneralizing....we're not talking about all professors or academics.....just most of the ones that get attention or media coverage. And seemingly by the lack of dissension most of the silent ones too.



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User currently offlineDeltaDC9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):
Thanks for filling me in. Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.

The players were white and rich, the strippers were black and/or not rich. In some people little minds that formula results in the white kids automatically being guilty, how could it be otherwise? We will never know the whole truth, but what we do know is that there is nothing at all to even base questioning on, muchless levy charges.

Sometimes being white can really suck, those guys found that out the hard way.



Dont take life too seriously because you will never get out of it alive - Bugs Bunny
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17657 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2029 times:

Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

You could probably look up all their names and email them at their Duke addresses....that's the best you're gonna get.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17657 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):
You could probably look up all their names and email them at their Duke addresses....that's the best you're gonna get.

In fact you can find that list, as well as the original ad, here:
http://www.concerneddukefaculty.org/



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineGlydrflyr From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2013 times:

Just remember this saying: "There were no adults in charge" It applies to top management at Duke University for not offering this gang of 88 the option of publicly apologizing as loudly and vociferously as they trumpeted their charges, or joining their hero, Mike Nifong, in his new job as assistant bumper wiper at the famous Happy Bubbles car wash. I understand that Mikey was booted out of office today, since he wanted to stay in office until sometime in July.

That saying may also apply to any number of other situations where no logic prevails,



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20728 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

This topic came up on MSNBC last night. Dan Abrams brought a couple of the commentators on who'd condemned the lacrosse players initially. Susan Filan, an MSNBC legal analyst, apologized for the statements she made.

Will apologies solve anything? Not much, I don't think, we already know people are fallible--perhaps it'll make them think twice in the future, but the damage has already been done.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9405 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 3):
Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
did you ever The Fantastic Mr. Fox by Roald Dahl?

Excellent book; one of my favourite childhood stories.

....and as far as we know....they're *still* waiting....



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User currently offlineCharlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1131 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1928 times:

Will Nancy Grace apologize?

User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8969 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting Charlienorth (Reply 17):
Will Nancy Grace apologize?

Nancy Grace is worse than the entire Fox News staff put together, then some. She is SO annoying.



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User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Hell freezes over



One down....

Anyway, it will happen when S12PPL apologizes for being a tool.....and when FLAIRPORT stops buying snowglobes....and I learn how to ride a bike.....etc. etc.

piercey in CLE  Sad



Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4629 posts, RR: 36
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Are the accused Duke players filing any sort of lawsuit? This is a rare case where I think it's actually justified.

Speaking of Nancy Grace and CNN. Do you yanks get BBC world on regular cable down there? In my city BBC world is channel 28 and CNN is 29. It's amazing to compare the two. The differences are vast. BBC has real world news, has segments for all parts of the globe, flip to CNN and it's Nancy Grace screaming into the camera telling you if you let your kids play outside they'll die from something, or Larry King interviewing Judge Judy about the Paris Hilton story  Yeah sure

CNN blows. Hot female anchors though. Big grin

Kris



Word
User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
In fact you can find that list, as well as the original ad, here:
http://www.concerneddukefaculty.org/

I'm unimpressed by the grammar given this ad/letter came from university professors. The use of the word 'this' without ever defining what it means or stands for is just bush league.

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 20):
Are the accused Duke players filing any sort of lawsuit? This is a rare case where I think it's actually justified.

They reached an out of court settlement with the university that I would assume keeps them from suing at a later time.

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 20):
The differences are vast. BBC has real world news, has segments for all parts of the globe, flip to CNN and it's Nancy Grace screaming into the camera

Try CNN Headline News instead and you don't get Nancy Grace. It's still crappy stories but at least no Nancy Grace or Larry "The Cryptkeeper" King.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1744 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):
Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?

Sure they will when


Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
Pigs fly
Hell freezes over

Nuf said right here.


User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 7):
Quoting DL021 (Thread starter):Will this "Gang of 88" apologize in the same manner as they accused?
Sure they will when

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton stop being hypocrites.
The media researches their stories before throwing them out to the world.
Pigs fly
Hell freezes over

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Quoting DL021 (Reply 10):
Quoting Flyorski (Reply 8):Very interesting, but I find it hard to imagin that they could blame people for a crime as serious as rape without any facts. Some people amaze me.
There is a giant rush to condemn a certain category of citizen here in this country for any crime of which they are accused of committing. The protected academic class which is generally unfettered by discretion or decency often takes it upon themselves to throw their "intellectual might and capital" behind whatever cause suits their hippie/socialist bent and doesn't always take little things like facts and due process into account.

I wonder how many of those professors were on the law faculty. They must be really embarrassed.


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