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Trivia: What US State Has The Easternmost Point?  
User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9141 times:

Ok, geography people, what US state has the easternmost point?


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9141 times:

Maine is where the sun first comes up in the US. West Quoddy Head in the easternmost point in the lower 48..although I believe Alaska does have an island on the other side of the dateline. So the answer for lower 48 would be Maine, overall would be Alaska.

[Edited 2007-06-22 00:21:30]

User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9126 times:

Well, the answer in not Maine!


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User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9112 times:

Answer is Alaska. Some shitty islands other side of the date line.


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User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

Alaska? Aren't there a few islands on the other side of longitude 180?


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9107 times:

Alaska experts: Does Attu get sunlight year around, or in the winter is it only a couple of hours in the afternoon?

User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9521 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9102 times:

It's Alaska.

Damn them.



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9102 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
Alaska experts: Does Attu get sunlight year around, or in the winter is it only a couple of hours in the afternoon?

Attu is fairly far south so it doesn't have the "Midnight Sun".


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9075 times:

Now that I looked a map it appears possibly Maine was the right answer in regards to the international date line : In the north, the date line swings to the east through Bering Strait and then west past the Aleutian Islands in order to keep Alaska (part of the United States) and Russia on opposite sides of the line and their territories due north and south of each other in concert with the date of the rest of each respective country.

So in theory one could still argue that Maine has the easternmost point..always good for a discussion on a slow day.  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9061 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
I believe Alaska does have an island on the other side of the dateline.

Several in fact.

Quoting Pacificjourney (Reply 3):
Answer is Alaska

You're smarter than I thought!

Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
Does Attu get sunlight year around

No.

But they do get around 16 hrs of sunlight, like ANC, in the summer.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 8):
Now that I looked a map it appears possibly Maine was the right answer in regards to the international date line

Wrong, time zones are the same, but the date line in fact crosses through some

Quoting Pacificjourney (Reply 3):
Some shitty islands



Quoting AirCop (Reply 8):
So in theory one could still argue that Maine has the easternmost point..

In the continental US.


User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9046 times:

Alaska, indeed, is the answer. But the position of the date line is really irrelevant when it comes to "east" vs. "west." Even though the date line is a bit gerrymandered, the actually meridian line is not.

Now, what makes this more interesting is that Alaska has the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost points in the US!



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User currently offlineDon81603 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9012 times:

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 10):
westernmost, and easternmost points in the US!

What about Guam?



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9004 times:

Quoting Don81603 (Reply 11):
Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 10):
westernmost, and easternmost points in the US!

What about Guam?

Guam . . . interesting. It's a territory . . . if counting territories and Protectorates, then Guam is still wrong. We've got Yap, American Samoa, etc further east/west than Guam . . .


User currently offlineDon81603 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 9002 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Guam . . . interesting. It's a territory

I stand corrected... And, if we were to REALLY split hairs, there could be no definitative eastern-western most point, as every embassy is soverign American soil.



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8998 times:

Quoting Zrs70 (Thread starter):
what US state has the easternmost point?

The OP specified "state".


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8998 times:

Quoting Don81603 (Reply 13):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 12):
Guam . . . interesting. It's a territory

I stand corrected... And, if we were to REALLY split hairs, there could be no definitative eastern-western most point, as every embassy is soverign American soil.

 rotfl 

Well, we've certainly left this thread in dust eh?! LOL

Yup. So what is the Eastern Most US Embassy? That is, afterall, considered US soil.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21882 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8969 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 8):
So in theory one could still argue that Maine has the easternmost point..

No, you couldn't. The dateline may be shifted around to suit political needs, but the lat/lon coordinate system isn't. Several islands in the Aleutians have an E in their longitude, and that's what counts.

-Mir



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User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8961 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Yup. So what is the Eastern Most US Embassy? That is, afterall, considered US soil.

Fiji?


User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 8928 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
Yup. So what is the Eastern Most US Embassy? That is, afterall, considered US soil.

Yes, the Embassy in Suva is the easternmost diplomatic office.

ANC - I thought the Aleutian islands were east of the date line - the same for the islands in the Bering Strait. Which Alaskan islands are on the other side of the date line?

QFF


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 8891 times:

Quoting Zrs70 (Reply 10):
Now, what makes this more interesting is that Alaska has the northernmost, westernmost, and easternmost points in the US!

Increidble-I was just talking to a friend of mine at work about this.

No one gets that one. The gueses usually are Maine for North, Hawaii for West, Texas for South and Maine for East, from what I've been able to ascertain. Most people forget about Alaska.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8873 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
The dateline may be shifted around to suit political needs,

Can you imagine the hassle if part of the state was on another day, its bad enough when states have two different time zones.


User currently offlineRadiocheck From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8860 times:

If we discount Alaska, and include territories, then the eastern most point is Point Udall on St. Croix in the US Virgin Islands.

If I remember correctly, the plaque there claims that the marker is the easternmost point of the territorial United States. They must not have known about that pesky little Aleutian Island!


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 22, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8855 times:

Quoting Pacificjourney (Reply 3):
Answer is Alaska. Some shitty islands other side of the date line.

Scientifically correct, but otherwise ................ otherwise ? ........................... ?


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 23, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8850 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 9):
get around 16 hrs of sunlight, like ANC, in the summer.

does that explain why you need a hat ????


User currently offlineQANTASforever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8850 times:

Quoting Radiocheck (Reply 21):
If I remember correctly, the plaque there claims that the marker is the easternmost point of the territorial United States. They must not have known about that pesky little Aleutian Island!

Well, which one? Nobody has yet named the island(s) which are on the other side of the date line.

QFF


25 AirCop : Looking at a map, I don't think there are any..the date line goes around the islands. If there were any, wouldn't the press been all over it on Jan 1
26 QANTASforever : Found it. Semisopochnoi Island (179°46'E). It's an uninhabited island just over the international date line. QFF
27 ME AVN FAN : even if inhabited by 20 million people, the USA started in what now is "New England"
28 Post contains links and images BA : It's not on the other side of the dateline. Forget the dateline. What counts is how close it is to the 180th meridian. Doing a quick Google search, t
29 Post contains images BA : Oops, looks like you found it while I was typing my post. Like I said, it's not over the international date line. It's still on the same side of the
30 QANTASforever : Well, then I'm baffled as to which islands ANC was referring. Where on earth would we be without you? I always wondered what that squiggly line was.
31 Copaair737 : Here's another bit of US geographical trivia.... What is the first country you hit when you go south out of Detroit?
32 LAXspotter : Canada?
33 Copaair737 : Yahtzee. You got it.
34 QANTASFOREVER : Here's another one. Which Pacific nation is the closest to the United States? QFF
35 JRadier : Nope, it's Florida. Key West has the Southernmost point.
36 ME AVN FAN : Cuba - Kiribati -
37 Post contains links and images Allstarflyer : Hmm, I didn't know (or just plain forgot) that was American territory. From what I've seen on the net, it's British. http://www.fiji.gov.fj/ You can
38 QANTASforever : Nop. Are you dull? We were talking about the fact that diplomatic offices (embassies) are considered sovereign territory of the occupant country, the
39 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : it is a fully independent country --- as shown under www.fiji.gov.fj/ - ok, taking American Samoa into account it of course is Fiji
40 QANTASforever : Um, surely American Samoa is extremely close to....The Independent State of Samoa? QFF
41 Allstarflyer : Hopefully not, but thanks for the correction - I last read this part . . . . . . and mistook it in the context of the topic. -R
42 Kay : so if it wasn't for this island west of Alaska, what is the most eastern point in the US? Kay
43 QANTASforever : Looks like it's American Samoa. **** Wait, correction: American Samoa is on the other side of the date line. Maybe Johnston Atoll? I'm not entirely s
44 Pelican : Only 16 hours? Are you sure, I mean we in Berlin get nearly 16 hours a day this time of the year... pelican
45 USAFHummer : Sorry...Key West may be the southernmost point in the lower 48, but the southernmost point in the 50 states is in Hawaii...
46 JRadier : I stand corrected, I now remember the buoy saying 'The southernmost point in the continental US'. Anyway, it's definitely not Texas.
47 Mir : I'm not saying it's a bad idea to alter the dateline a bit to reduce hassle, just that one can't use it to determine eastern vs. western hemisphere.
48 Post contains links and images JBo : Our friends at the Wikipedia have developed a rather extensive analysis on this very subject using a variety of basis points: http://en.wikipedia.org/
49 Pacificjourney : ENOUGH !!!! Let's talk about my prize instead (giddy with expectation.....)
50 L-188 : Russia, it is only 3 miles between Big Diomede (USSR) and Little Diomede (US). 70 miles mainland to mainland. The Aleutians are actually pretty far s
51 JBo : But it's still on the same side of the date line.
52 QANTASforever : No, I knew I should have specified - Pacific "Island" Nation. QFF
53 BA : I never said it was 179 west. I said it was 179 east. Take a look: Semisopochnoi Island is on the same side of the international date line as the res
54 ANCFlyer : Buzzzzz South point, the Island of Hawaii, the State of Hawaii. Guam if you wanna count territories . . .
55 Walter747 : Alaska is the farthest North, East, and Western state. Hawaii being the southern most.
56 Aloges : It's funny how technical these things get! The logical thing to say is that, yes, Maine is the easternmost state - because from all other places in th
57 ME AVN FAN : absolutely. And all that "scientific" stuff about US territories on the Asian side is rather dry theory. -
58 USAFHummer : From a logical perspective, yes, you are correct...however, the strict geographic interpretation. which is what I think the thread-starter was asking
59 Post contains images Aloges : precisely my point
60 Jamincan : While this is an interesting piece of trivia, I still think it is arguable. By the same logic, if there was some piece of land bisected by the 180th M
61 ANother : Er, have you ever seen the flag of Hawaii?, or British Colombia?, or Ontario?, or Australia? or New Zealand?
62 MCOflyer : No, Hawaii No Canada. Hunter
63 Viscount724 : Here's another Detroit-related question that most people get wrong: If you fly due south from Detroit, what's the first country in South America you
64 QANTASforever : Well, no. But you would hit the tip of Cuba as well as Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. QFF
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