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Turkey Arrests Boy For Flirt With UK Girl  
User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

The Turkish police have arrested a 17 year old German boy for flirting with a 13 year old English girl,after the parents of the girl have complained to the Turkish police.The "incident" took place close to Antalya.
The boy is since two months in a cell with 30 criminals..
You better watch out when dating girls in Turkey..
I'ts a sad story of stupid parents who run to the police complaining about things, that normally you sort out individually.
Sitting in a Turkish prison cell for falling in love with a minor ..have a nice vacation !

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[Edited 2007-06-23 08:12:43]


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4970 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Thread starter):
I'ts a sad story of stupid parents who run to the police complaining about things, that normally you sort out individually.

 Yeah sure
Would you be saying that if he had ben having sex with her, which would be classed as rape?



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4956 times:

Since a boy of 17 flirting with a girl who -following the boy's statement-pretended to be 15- is not really rape,I don't see why he ends up in a prison-cell with 30 criminals.
There is obviously some form of overreaction from the part of the Turkish authorities and the parents of the girl.
Nobody mentiones that the girl has had sexual relations with the boy.
In this article of "der Spiegel" there is only talk of "flirting"-which implies no rape or sexual intercourse.
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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4954 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 1):
Would you be saying that if he had ben having sex with her, which would be classed as rape?

Last I heard you have to actually commit the crime before you can be punished for it. Apparently Turkey has other views of human rights.


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

..specifically when you read reports about 15 % of the Turkish girls beeing forced into marriage at age between 15-17 years with "husbands" they have not chosen themselves.
This is a gross over-reaction from both the parents and the Turkish police !!



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User currently offlineSkidmarks From UK - England, joined Dec 2004, 7121 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4937 times:

In the article you provided it states he was imprisoned for statutory rape and is accused of having under age sex. Not simply flirting, which is a whole different ball game.

Had it been only flirting I doubt the prison detention would have occured. However, I do think the Turkish authorities have overreacted and should have granted bail, although when you are in their country you abide by their rules, rough and harsh they may seem.

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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4928 times:

"The boy, who attends a high school in the northern German country town of Uelzen, is accused of statutory rape, but news reports said he asserted sexual intercourse did not take place and that the girl claimed she was 15. "


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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Why would it be classified as rape if this 17-year old boy would have had sexual intercourse with the girl? He is still a minor too, isn't he? Especially if the girl would have been willing too. It is not surprising that there are many similar cases nowadays, looking at how 12 and 13-year old girls look, dress and behave.

User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

I'm sure a 17 yr old boy would be classed as an adult in Turkey. The facts thus far appear to be contradictory. However, it reminds me of



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User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 9, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4848 times:

The shocking aspect is -and I love and know Turkey very well, having worked in Ankara for some time -that the position of many young Turkish girls in the deeper Anatolian regions is far from envious.
Even in larger cities the parents still decide on who will become the future husband of her daughter. The girls are forced into marriage ,sometimes within their own family.Rape is quite frequent but no Turkish girl of 14,15 years would dare to go to the police and put down a plaint against some family members-her declaration would not be considered truthful.
There are some organisations in Germany,Turkey and Belgium who try to address the topic,but the ruling islamic party is far from taking those issues serious.
an extract from a web-page dedicated to the violence aginst women in islamic-counties (but not only there..)
"Hatun had been sent to Turkey for a forced marriage when she had only been 15 years old, made to marry a cousin in their "home" region of southeastern Turkey. She had fled Turkey aged 17, pregnant. She was killed because she had chosen to "live like a German". At the time of her killing, Muslim pupils from a local school demonstrated publicly, applauding Hatun's murder."

from :
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/002305.html

[Edited 2007-06-23 12:21:30]


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User currently offlineLevent From France, joined Sep 2004, 1718 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 9):
from :
http://www.westernresistance.com/blo....html

I agree completely with you in this aspect, and strongly oppose forced marriages - mainly the rape and humiliation of young girls who are forced into that situation. Luckily, as far as I know, nothing like that has ever happened in my family - being from a more modernised town in western Turkey.

But sticking with the original post, this is a case of two tourist kids, a German 17-year old and a British 13-year old. So this has nothing to do with forced marriages in rural Turkey. I get that the Germans are outraged by this case; I wonder what the girls' parents think of all this?

I do understand what you are trying to say though - why lock up this German kid while similar things happen all the time in Turkey?


User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4750 times:

Quoting Levent (Reply 10):
I do understand what you are trying to say though - why lock up this German kid while similar things happen all the time in Turkey?

yes-mainly the inconsistency between hypocrite laws against foreigners but closing eyes on your own young girls' misery..
German media report that seemingly the sister of the British girl -aged 14- also spend time with her friend in the same room as the suggested rapist.The parents of the German boy found the friendship with the girl quite OK and were even happy that he could improve his English.So the relation was apparently a longer-lasting one since the parents of both knew about their kid's dating each other.



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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 945 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (7 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting BHXFAOTIPYYC (Reply 8):

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