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Is This The Way The British Courts Work?!  
User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

I heard on CNN that a rape trial in Britain was called a mistrial when the jurrors couldn't stop watching a Dart Championship game on tv during deliberations.

It just shows you what kind of priorities some people have...


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13165 posts, RR: 78
Reply 1, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

'12 good people' not this time!
Yes it's true.


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1507 times:

The other thing about the UK court system, is they cannot mention previous conviction in the court or on the media. I thought that was strange when I found that one out.
Iain


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Iain,

That isn't unique to the UK, many european countries have the same (stupid) rule about previous convictions. Personally I can't understand why they could think they're not relevant!




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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1497 times:
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I presume it may be down to the fact if a person is undecided on the evidence brought before them as to the guilt or otherwise then knowing that the defendent has been convicted of a similar crime may sway their thinking and so declare the defendent guilty of the crime.

David


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

Quite. The previous history is irrelevant to the particular trial taking place. It is the job of the crown (or DA, or whatever) to prove guilt for the crime the defendant is being charged with, not for something they did in the past.

The UK and US court system is very similar, for obvious reasons, but there are a few differences. For example we don't have jury selection in the same way as the Americans do. PanAm747, head up to Canada - they've got the same (more or less) system we have.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

But the past convictions are quite relevant for sentencing once the guilt is proved, isn´t it?

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Correct, and past offences are taken into account when sentencing. But sentencing is carried out by the judge who is aware of the defendant's background, not the jury, who aren't.

It is a notable difference in the UK that in civil cases the jury do not set damages, the judge does. Essentially, the jury are only there to provide the decision. I believe that the jury are also permitted to ask questions of witnesses through the judge.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

Ironically I am on jury service this week and next (I am on a big trial at the mo', but I can't talk about it until its all over).


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Actually, Ryan I don't believe you are allowed to talk about it even when it's over. Another key difference between the UK and US.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineB747ca From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Why was the TV in the room in the first pLace?


ma va funk ulo
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

There were lengthy arguments between the lawyers over technical issues and of course the jury were sent out. To stop them being bored they were left a television. When they later went to deliberate on the verdict I suppose no-one thought to remove the TV. After all, you would expect a jury to actually take the job seriously, wouldn't you.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7360 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1434 times:
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My director was one of the jurors in the Dave Jones trial! Apparently, when it was all over, you could see him in the background when they were interviewing Dave Jones! So need for him to say anything....

David


User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Also the other difference is in the UK the judge decides the sentence, while in the UK the jury does!
Iain


User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Iainhol - the judge decides the sentence in the UK. The jury simply determines whether the defendant is guilty or not.


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1406 times:

What?  Confused

Josh
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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

That was meant to be after Iainhol Nuts

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

I got my sentence mixed up it should read:
Also the other difference is in the UK the judge decides the sentence, while in the US the jury does!
Iain


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