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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Hey All,
Looking for some advice for home networking.
Ok, so here's the set up:
My next door neighbor was sharing my other neighbor's high speed internet connection, wirelessly (with permission). Well, neighbor number 2 has moved and left neighbor number one without internet access.
He has approached me about sharing my internet connection, and paying 1/2 the monthly access fee. He is a long time, and trusted neighbor, so I am not worried about not getting any money.
Currently, I have a wired home network of three computers running through a Linksys router. Since my home is already wired, I really have no desire to go through the expense to migrate to an all wireless network in my home.

Here is my thoughts and the subject of the advice I am seeking.

Is it possible to run the incoming cable through a splitter, retaining my wired connection to my router, and send the second cable into a wireless router that would be accessed by my neighbor? Would this create issues with the dynamic IP address assignments?
Is there a combination wired/wireless router available? What other issues do you see coming up that would need to be addressed.

Any advice would be most appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Russ


My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
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User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Well, first of all, why all this? For $ 10 monthly? I won't comment the fact that something like this is essentially a fraud, since it's none of my business.

Purely technically, it won't work. Don't forget, you have the ISP's end device at home (ADSL or Cable modem), without it your neighbour won't have anything. The only way would be to hook him up to your router with a standard network cable of appropriate length. Now that would be a stupid thing to do, because nowadays a 50' network cable is more expensive than a wireless G router.


User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

Well, I haven't agreed to anyting. He just asked last night.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 1):
Well, first of all, why all this? For $ 10 monthly?

Actually, it's $42.95/month for Comcast HS Internet.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 1):
I won't comment the fact that something like this is essentially a fraud,

Please comment.

Thanks!

Russ



My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3007 posts, RR: 48
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1393 times:
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The problem I see with this is that you would be responsible for any illegal activities your neighbor might be doing over the Internet, as it's *your* IP address being logged on the servers.

If you'd like to do it nonetheless, the best way is to get a network cable to the neighbor, to which he will connect an "access point router", so that he'll only use one of your dynamic IPs on the WAN port, and assign new IPs on "his" network over the (W)LAN.

You can't use a splitter of some sort to split your ISP's signal. You must do it on a network basis, ie. with a network cable, or by letting your neighbor use your wireless network directly (he can buy a wireless router to hook up in our apartment - just make sure it's secure, not that *every* neighbor will be using your Internet!).

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 1):
I won't comment the fact that something like this is essentially a fraud,

It depends on the ISP's terms & conditions.

In any case, I wouldn't do it.



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User currently offlineTootallsd From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1391 times:
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The splitter idea would not work with my ISP as they would need the MAC address of the wireless router in order for it to be addressable. Further, while they treat a wireless router as a one-to-many device with no problem, the addition of a second MAC address would add some money to the monthly bill.

User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1386 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Thread starter):
Here is my thoughts and the subject of the advice I am seeking.

Is it possible to run the incoming cable through a splitter, retaining my wired connection to my router, and send the second cable into a wireless router that would be accessed by my neighbor? Would this create issues with the dynamic IP address assignments?
Is there a combination wired/wireless router available? What other issues do you see coming up that would need to be addressed.

You can either run a cable from your router or add a wireless transmitter to one port of your router. There are available combination routers out there, very common.


User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

It should work. Well what we have at my house is a cable going from the wall from the ISP, to my broadband modem, which then takes the signal to the router. I then have a direct connection from that on my computer and the rest is wireless. It also has 3 ports in the back where you can plug more cables in I.e. my router has an extra 4 ports so i can have 4 computers connected to the wirless router - hard wired, and anything else wireless.

So If i understood your question right, get a router with multiple ports and your set to go. I never have problems with IP's atall.

Rgds --James--



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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 5):
or add a wireless transmitter to one port of your router.

So, this device would plug into one of my router's Ethernet ports, and then transmit/receive wirelessly through my router?
Would this be the same situation if I wanted to be able to access the internet with a laptop with a wireless adapter?

Russ



My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 7):

So, this device would plug into one of my router's Ethernet ports, and then transmit/receive wirelessly through my router?
Would this be the same situation if I wanted to be able to access the internet with a laptop with a wireless adapter?

Russ

Yes, exactly. They are called "wireless access points". I bought a travel one for about $20 once --- not sure how much distance it has but it covers hotel rooms and my house.


User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 8):
Yes, exactly. They are called "wireless access points".

Ok, that sounds pretty simple.
What about shared files on my network? How would I allow only access to the internet, and not my shared network folders?

Russ



My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 3):
It depends on the ISP's terms & conditions.

I can't imagine an ISP allowing that. There was even a time, when Rogers fas fighting router usage even within your own household. Of course, it was futile. But this case is slightly different. He'd be selling a service he's not authorized to sell.

As I wrote, the only way is to use one of output lines from the router. With the cable prices nowadays and knowing that the Linksys WRT54G costs now $ 54 CDN at Canadian Best Buy, wireless is the way to go. Keep the faster cable connection within the house and let the neighbour use the 54 Mbit G connection.


User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 9):
What about shared files on my network? How would I allow only access to the internet, and not my shared network folders?

That's easy. Don't let him know your workgroup name, if it's MSHOME, change it. His computer won't be part of your workgroup, he won't see your files and vice versa. If you'll use a wireless access point, use WEP encryption and MAC filter, so nobody else can easily access your network.


User currently offlineSaxdiva From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 2382 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 9):
What about shared files on my network? How would I allow only access to the internet, and not my shared network folders?

Here we have a cable modem with a wireless router behind it. The house is wired and we both have ethernet connections at our desks, but I frequently use the wireless network to work on the back patio. It's not difficult to set up, and the routers are cheap now--like, less than fifty bucks.

That said, if you don't already know how to secure your system and a wireless connection, I wouldn't recommend sharing your internet connection this way. Honestly, you have no idea what your neighbor does with his spare time, and you really DON'T want to find out by getting a call from the police.


User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1346 times:

Thanks for all the advice guys.
I think I have an understanding about how all this works.
Though I haven't made a decision yet as to whether I will do this or not, I understand the ethical dilemma that I must consider.
Though, on the other hand, it would really be no different than me using a laptop connected to my service, with the exception of him not being "within" my house.
Hmmm, definitely something to ponder.

Thanks again for the advice guys.

Russ



My glass is neither 1/2 empty nor 1/2 full, rather, the glass itself is twice as big as it should be.
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