GQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1587 times:
Since...well...Iamcanadian somehow went back in time a few weeks/years and the original thread got locked...I'm starting a new one. I saw tonight that the Ducks picked up Bertuzzi. Well ain't that interesting? What the hell are they doing? Picking up all of Detroit's unsigned free agents???
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1584 times:
Scotty Gomez when to the Rangers for 50 mil for the next 7 years.
Not to bad for a guy that was making 500 a week two years ago.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
PlateMan From United States of America, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 904 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1582 times:
I didn't read the early posts, so, this may be a duplicate
But I am an Islanders fan and we are so screwed now. We were screwed before, but now its just all over. The Coliseum and team are literally fallling apart
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
Quoting PlateMan (Reply 2): I didn't read the early posts, so, this may be a duplicate
But I am an Islanders fan and we are so screwed now. We were screwed before, but now its just all over. The Coliseum and team are literally fallling apart
We Will suffer together. It pisses me off that if you read all the articles, you see Wang and Snow try to spin the facts. They claim that ba lot of plaers are turning away from them because if the aging colisuem (Just another way for Wang to pressure the local politicians to let him build).....Accept the fact. Nobody wants to play for us....Thank you to our GM Garth SnowBURY
Piercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1576 times:
Quoting PlateMan (Reply 2):
But I am an Islanders fan and we are so screwed now. We were screwed before, but now its just all over. The Coliseum and team are literally fallling apart
Hey, srb, who's this Sim guy anyways. I've honestly never heard of him.
piercey in CLE
Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
Galapagapop From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 910 posts, RR: 4 Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1573 times:
I'm excited Drury is coming to the Rangers, he's a local and it's great he's coming back. Although I do hope he'd drop by his old stomping grounds in Bridgeport's Wonderland of Ice, where he played in High School and won states, although Fairfield Prep actually has won states 3 out of the last 4 years for CT again, Drury or not .
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1570 times:
Quoting Galapagapop (Reply 5): I'm excited Drury is coming to the Rangers, he's a local and it's great he's coming back. Although I do hope he'd drop by his old stomping grounds in Bridgeport's Wonderland of Ice, where he played in High School and won states, although Fairfield Prep actually has won states 3 out of the last 4 years for CT again, Drury or not .
Do you ever check out The sound tigers?? They have a gorgeous arena and I would love to know how the kids are down there.
Burke loves Bertuzzi so this does not surprise me. He's one of not that many GMs in the league who would take a chance on Bertuzzi.
Quoting L-188 (Reply 1): Scotty Gomez when to the Rangers for 50 mil for the next 7 years.
13 goals last season THIRTEEN. If he keeps playing like that
$50,000,000 / 7 seasons = $7,142,857.14 a season
$7,142,857.14 / 13 goals = $549,450.55 a goal. What a bargain!!
I'm glad the Sens moved Preissing, he was very average. Hopefully Murray has the stones to make some good deals for us, if not we'll have to hope and pray that our numerous Russian prospects come right!
Iamcanadian From Canada, joined May 2001, 734 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1561 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 4): who's this Sim guy anyways. I've honestly never heard of him.
He's more of a character player than an offensive star (as you may have deduced already). He won a cup with Dallas, but has bounced back and forth between the big leagues and the minors throughout his career.
Texan From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 4204 posts, RR: 53 Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 4): Hey, srb, who's this Sim guy anyways. I've honestly never heard of him.
We used to use him as a 4th liner on the Stars. Good, hard-nosed player with checking instincts, but not a real threat to score. Most teams would use him more for depth and an energy burst than put him on the ice all the time. He used to play maybe 7-8 minutes/game when he played with the Stars.
I like what the Pens and Caps have done so far. Same with the Avs and Kings. Rafalski was a great pickup for Detroit and should be even better than Schneider. Personal opinion, I think the Flyers and Rangers have a good chance of being screwed in the long run by their signings of Briere for 8 years and Gomez for 7 years, respectively. I'm not a fan of contracts that stretch more than 3-4 years, especially when the player is going to be taking home a large chunk of change every year. It hamstrings the team going into the future, especially if the player fails to perform (Yashin).
So, big winners so far (in my book only):
Pens - Add Sydor, Sykora, re-sign Saubarin and Whitney
Caps - Add Poti, Kozlov, and Nylander. Nylander should help Ovechkin a lot, and Poti should contribute well on the PP and with his puck movement.
Rangers - Drury and Gomez are great players. I think Gomez' contract is too long, but for the next couple years at least he should provide a good boost.
Avs - Ryan Smyth is a pest and a helluva good player. Scott Hannan is underrated. Great pickups for 4-5 years while the two should be in their primes.
Kings - Big splash today. Calder, Nagy, Handzus, Preissing. They pick up a good C, a very solid D, and two serviceable wingers.
Big losers...well, we know already that the Isles lost just about everyone who knows how to put on a pair of skates and Buffalo lost their co-captains. But there are a couple teams who have not done anything and should have pushed hard to grab a couple of the guys who have already signed. Calgary, Edmonton, Toronto, and Montreal fit in this boat. Dallas definitely fits in here. The Sharks re-signed Thornton, but haven't signed anyone else to help improve the team. And the Devils have just decided to let one of their most creative offensive players and one of the best defensive players in the league leave town without a fight. Great job, guys.
Texan
"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1554 times:
I just took a look at the Rangers roster and though it may look like a huge improvement, they are really only stocked on their top 2 lines.
Figure this:
Jagr-Gomez-Straka
Pruka -Drury-Cullen (You can interchange Avery once he signs back on)
(This is the assumption that they are not signing Shanahan)
After those top 2 lines, here is who they are left with.
46 Daniel Girardi 23 6-2 200 R Welland, Ontario 4/29/84
55 David Liffiton 22 6-2 210 L Windsor, Ontario 10/18/84
8 Marek Malik 32 6-6 240 L Ostrava, Czechoslovakia 6/24/75
27 Paul Mara 27 6-4 219 L Ridgewood, New Jersey 9/7/79
22 Thomas Pock 25 6-1 210 L Klagenfurt, Austria 12/2/81
3 Michal Rozsival 28 6-2 210 R Vlasim, Czechoslovakia 9/3/78
34 Jason Strudwick 31 6-3 225 L Edmonton, Alberta 7/17/75
51 Fedor Tyutin
I just think people are jumping on the Ranger bandwagon a bit too prematurely. (Not saying at opening day they wont be the best team...just not right now)
Quoting Texan (Reply 9): I think the Flyers and Rangers have a good chance of being screwed in the long run by their signings of Briere for 8 years and Gomez for 7 years, respectively. I'm not a fan of contracts that stretch more than 3-4 years, especially when the player is going to be taking home a large chunk of change every year. It hamstrings the team going into the future, especially if the player fails to perform (Yashin).
I have to agree. having witnessed Yashin first hand I can tell you it is an albatross around the whole teams neck. Yashin never really put up bad numbers, but the fact that he had 10 years and 8 mill a year, his number just didn't justify that type of pay day and the fans and teamates let him know it. Gomez may fall into the same category. He has only scored more than 20 goals only once in his career.
Scott Burnisde commented on these long contracts and noted that it may hurt these teams in the fututre with the lack of positions for the youth in the organization. Not only do these players have long contracts, but many have NMC (No movement Clauses) in there as well.
Piercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1550 times:
Quoting Iamcanadian (Reply 8):
He's more of a character player than an offensive star (as you may have deduced already). He won a cup with Dallas, but has bounced back and forth between the big leagues and the minors throughout his career.
Quoting Texan (Reply 9): We used to use him as a 4th liner on the Stars. Good, hard-nosed player with checking instincts, but not a real threat to score. Most teams would use him more for depth and an energy burst than put him on the ice all the time. He used to play maybe 7-8 minutes/game when he played with the Stars.
Well, it sounds like he's a solid player, so I guess it's not that bad..
Hey, JFK, what do u think about Shanahan becoming Isle? I don't think I heard anyone picked him up.
No surprise. After we took Witt, they needed a good defender. Kind of bites we lost him.
Quoting Texan (Reply 9): Big losers...well, we know already that the Isles
It's still salvageable, though. If we can get back Asham, Hunter, and Zednik for the Forwards, and Campoli on D, It's salvageable. At least we got a goalie....
piercey in CLE
Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
GQfluffy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1547 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 11): Hey, JFK, what do u think about Shanahan becoming Isle? I don't think I heard anyone picked him up.
I heard an off-the-wall way-out-there rumor that he could wind up back with the Wings. I'm not sure how, as I would bet he'd have to take some sort of pay cut. And how would the fans welcome him back???
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1545 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 11): Hey, JFK, what do u think about Shanahan becoming Isle? I don't think I heard anyone picked him up.
Quoting GQfluffy (Reply 13): I heard an off-the-wall way-out-there rumor that he could wind up back with the Wings. I'm not sure how, as I would bet he'd have to take some sort of pay cut. And how would the fans welcome him back???
As he proved last year he can still play. For the right price I def. would not turn that one away, but I read in todays NY Daily News that the rags are working on bringing him back right now. Dellapina who is the beat writer for them is usually pretty good with that info. so we will have to wait and see.
Quoting Piercey (Reply 12): Take your bets: Who's signing Chris Simon? Please not the Islanders....
Oh come on Piercey.....With Simon and Asham back we can just take Baseball swings at all the players who just left us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1543 times:
Breaking Rumor news I had to add on from Eklund at Hockey Buzz.
"2:10 PM
"NY Islanders have worked out a potential major trade to a western conference team depending on that player waving his NTC. I will not write more out of fairness to the player, but I do think Isles fans should know they are burning up the phones trying to get something done here...It is aperfect fit for them.... just one of many things Snow has been working on for days."
Well, the Isles will need to trade away their future to get anything now. If they are doing a major trade it will involve at least one and possibly two first round picks over the next couple years. Looking at their roster, they need the most help at Center (they need help everywhere, but only have 2 C's on their roster right now). If it is a Western Conference team and a big name center with a no trade clause, the options are narrowed pretty well. Modano, Marleau, Morrison (I think), or Arnott. The Stars cannot afford to lose Modano either in terms of production or good will to the community. San Jose is working on an extension with Marleau to keep Joe Thornton happy (Marleau and Thornton are best friends). Morrison, while not the captain of the Canucks, leads with his heart and soul on the ice. Arnott is a Predator and the Preds are having a fire sale while picking up young players and draft picks.
My prediction if this rumor pans out: Arnott to the Preds for a 1st round pick next year, a 3rd round pick one of the next two years, and some 19 year old kid from the Isles system.
The Preds win because they continue their youth movement before the sale. The Isles win because they get a leader who can score and who has name recognition. However, the Isles will also be forfeiting major pieces of their future while the Preds would fully, completely be throwing the towel on the next 2-3 seasons.
Texan
"I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library."
Galapagapop From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 910 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 6): Do you ever check out The sound tigers?? They have a gorgeous arena and I would love to know how the kids are down there.
How so in what way? I've been there dozens of times and I love the place, it is great place to see the up and coming Islanders and they aren't that bad either, I actually prefer them over the Wolfpack which I've seen a couple times as well, despite me being a Rangers fan. Not to mention they hold dozens of fun events there all year round. Although they tend to be worse than the Hartford Wolfpack.
JFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1381 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
Quoting Galapagapop (Reply 17): How so in what way? I've been there dozens of times and I love the place, it is great place to see the up and coming Islanders and they aren't that bad either, I actually prefer them over the Wolfpack which I've seen a couple times as well, despite me being a Rangers fan. Not to mention they hold dozens of fun events there all year round.
yeah i was curious to see how the prospects play. Up in the coliseum we seldomly see the youngsters come up and when they do they get limited time. I think I may take in a game this year there.
Quoting Texan (Reply 16): Well, the Isles will need to trade away their future to get anything now. If they are doing a major trade it will involve at least one and possibly two first round picks over the next couple years. Looking at their roster, they need the most help at Center (they need help everywhere, but only have 2 C's on their roster right now). If it is a Western Conference team and a big name center with a no trade clause, the options are narrowed pretty well. Modano, Marleau, Morrison (I think), or Arnott. The Stars cannot afford to lose Modano either in terms of production or good will to the community. San Jose is working on an extension with Marleau to keep Joe Thornton happy (Marleau and Thornton are best friends). Morrison, while not the captain of the Canucks, leads with his heart and soul on the ice. Arnott is a Predator and the Preds are having a fire sale while picking up young players and draft picks.
My prediction if this rumor pans out: Arnott to the Preds for a 1st round pick next year, a 3rd round pick one of the next two years, and some 19 year old kid from the Isles system.
The Preds win because they continue their youth movement before the sale. The Isles win because they get a leader who can score and who has name recognition. However, the Isles will also be forfeiting major pieces of their future while the Preds would fully, completely be throwing the towel on the next 2-3 seasons.
So i have seen that on all the message boards and some are even throwing around Rick nash as well (wishful thinking). At this point the Isles are fairly stripped down in regards to prospects to give up unless they give up the 06 pick in Okposo which in my mind would be insanity. They must hold on to something.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1525 times:
Quoting Piercey (Reply 4): Hey, srb, who's this Sim guy anyways. I've honestly never heard of him.
He bounced around on lines all season. Most teams, he'd be a third or fourth liner, but for us, he spent most of the season bouncing between the top two lines. After the trade deadline, he was relegated back down to 3rd and 4th line duty with the addition of Dupuis (who we did re-sign right before the Free Agency period started).
Quoting PlateMan (Reply 2): But I am an Islanders fan and we are so screwed now. We were screwed before, but now its just all over. The Coliseum and team are literally fallling apart
You're not as screwed as the Buffaslugs. Lost Drury and Briere. If Miller goes down next season, they will be totally screwed.
Here's who the Thrashers have signed so far:
Pascal Dupuis (re-signed just prior to the start of the signing period)
Todd White (From the Wild)
Eric Perrin (From the Lightning)
Ken Klee (From the Avs)
Slava Kozlov remains unsigned, and based on what other forwards with similar stats to his this past season have gotten, he won't come cheap. We've offered him a 3 year deal worth between $10-12 Million, but considering Kariya got 3 years, $18 million from the Blues (averages 6 million/season) and Jason Blake getting $12 million from the Leafs (averages $4 million/year), it may take a offer that averages at least $4.5-5.5 million a season. That may be more than the Thrashers will be willing to pay (especially since Kovalchuk and Hossa take a nice chunk of change already for next year's salary), and as a result, could lead to the money earmarked to re-sign Kozlov could be used instead to sign another defenseman and a plan B player (Yashin's name has been dropped, but the team hasn't yet contacted his agent.).
Piercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1521 times:
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 14):
Oh come on Piercey.....With Simon and Asham back we can just take Baseball swings at all the players who just left us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"NY Islanders have worked out a potential major trade to a western conference team depending on that player waving his NTC. I will not write more out of fairness to the player, but I do think Isles fans should know they are burning up the phones trying to get something done here...It is aperfect fit for them.... just one of many things Snow has been working on for days."
Hmm.... We're pretty set on defense, so it's going to be offense, but who? I'm thinking Arnott as well.
Quoting Texan (Reply 16): Zednik went to the Panthers on the first day of free agency.
God dammit.....
I seriously hope we don't do this rent-a-player shit again. This cost us too much.
piercey in CLE
Well I believe it all is coming to an end. Oh well, I guess we are gonna pretend.
Galapagapop From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 910 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1516 times:
Quoting JFK69 (Reply 18): yeah i was curious to see how the prospects play. Up in the coliseum we seldomly see the youngsters come up and when they do they get limited time. I think I may take in a game this year there.
Some nights it looks pro, some nights they look like the couldn't even beat a high school team, it really varies, but as of late I've seen some decent playing from them.
Apparently (as per TSN here in Canada, on TV no less) Ed Jovanovski has been asked by the Coyotes to waive his NTC. I don't really see anybody on the Islanders that could appeal to ol' Gretz except for Sillinger. And I only suggest him because he's the only player in excess of 35 years old and has seen better days.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
Everything I've heard about Shanahan is that he's either going back to the Rangers or retiring. Rangers have Lundqvist, Avery and I believe Hossa to resign, but Shanahan might be willing to do a deal where he's paid a very low base salary (which goes against the cap) but heavily weighted with incentives (which do not go against the cap for him due to I believe a longevity in the NHL clause in the CBA).
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1468 times:
Well scratch another highly sought UFA from the list. Slava Kozlov has re-signed with the Thrashers (Yes I am extremely happy). 3 years/$11 million, which is less than what it was rumored Dallas (There were very heavy rumors yesterday about the Stars being on the verge of signing him) and Toronto were offering. I'm guessing that the "C" got dangled in front of him, something other teams probably couldn't guarantee.
26 Srbmod: Well after 18 seasons, Jeremy Roenick's calling it a career: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212745&hubname= I wonder how long until he ends up i
27 JFK69: Islanders have signed Ruslan Fedetekno for 1 year 2.9 million. Never thought a guy like that would get 2.9 million, but hey, it gets us closer to the
28 Piercey: Not bad. If he can get back to half of his old form, it will be a good signing. Then again, it's not like he was awful last year. piercey in CLE
29 Srbmod: Well the Devils did a raid across the Hudson and signed Kevin Weeks to back up Marty. Looks like Weeks is now officially demoted to NHL backup goalie.
30 JFK69: STOP THE PRESS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Piercey and Plateman....Hold on to your hats. We just made the trade of the century and nothing can stop us from winning t
31 Srbmod: I thought the signing of Jon Sim was what put you guys over the top...... Around the same time the basketball ones stop laughing at the Atlanta Hawks
32 JFK69: Hey SrBmod, I was wondering if Atlanta is a huge hockey town in regards to Media coverage. Up here in NY, the Islanders are 9 out of 9 and Hockey is 4
33 Srbmod: After many seasons of being relegated to minor status in the AJC Sports Section, the coverage started to get better last season. Since the rest of the
34 Iamcanadian: Isles have landed Guerin. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212856&hubname= Not too sure how this will pan out...I can't see him generating much of
35 JFK69: Wow...Great breakdown of the sports coverage in the area. I am not really shocked that UGA football is king down there, as well as it probably should
36 Iamcanadian: " target=_blank>http://islanders.nhl.com/team/app/?s...27280 " target=_blank>http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID...name= Too slow. You could always j
37 JFK69: OK!!! add one more to the stable. MIKE COMRIE JOINS THE ISLES! http://islanders.nhl.com/team/app/?s...age&page=NewsPage&articleid=327287 On the heels
38 Piercey: Is this the hockey version of major league? Sign as many has-beens and wannabes as possible to move the team to vegas? Either way, the trade sucked,
39 Piercey: Some Islander news: Todd Simpson retires, according to TSN Darryl Bootland and Joey MacDonald are now Islanders and, the arbitration: Atlanta Thrasher
40 GQfluffy: Joey Macfive-hole is now an Islander? Good luck Piercy... In other goalie news... My Wings just resigned The Dinosaur...I mean...Dominator...
41 Piercey: Well, at least he'll improve Bridgeport. piercey in CLE
42 JFK69: Couldn't be any worse for an organization that had Ron "let an 18 wheeler through my legs" Hextall Forgot to ask about mr "Shae it uuuuppppp" himself
43 Iamcanadian: Oilers sign Vanek...or did they? (A little Nylander de ja vu perhaps?) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=212929&hubname=nhl For now, they're saying
44 Srbmod: I really didn't listen to too many games that first season as I worked nights and the only time I got to see or hear any games were on my off nights.
45 USPIT10L: John Paddock was just named head coach of the Senators. Great pickup! NOT! The last time he was a coach, the Coyotes were in Winnipeg! I just saw it o
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