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Why Are Women So Complicated?  
User currently offlineWolverine From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 411 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

I really love my girlfriend, but sometimes I just don't understand what she wants..
We wanted to go on a Camping Trip. We planned to start tomorrow. We wanted to spend 2 weeks, just her and me, our tent, some other things, the nature, having some fun, go swimming, relax and maybe spotting some Planes  Wink
Yesterday she told me, she don't want to go. She said, this Trip was my idea, not hers, and she don't like it.
Why do women say yes, but mean no?
So we don't start tomorrow, I'm not sure if we'll start at all.. What do you think? Is this normal?


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User currently offlineMdsh00 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

I think that's the million dollar question that no man, and probably woman can answer.


"Look Lois, the two symbols of the Republican Party: an elephant, and a big fat white guy who is threatened by change."
User currently offlineSan747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4942 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
What do you think? Is this normal?

Quite normal. It's all part of the game, which we men will probably never understand...



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
I really love my girlfriend, but sometimes I just don't understand what she wants..

Welcome to the club, buddy.

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
some other things

Is that code for condoms?

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
Why do women say yes, but mean no?

Who knows...honestly, who knows. I think they say it to make us happy, and hope we change out mind before the event (camping, buying a new car, certain...positions, etc.). And then when they realize we won't, they know they can simply say "no" and we can't get too mad (or at least show it).


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Well lets let the nice woman of A-net answer. Maybe they can shed something into your situation. Is your woman spontaneous and spur the moment type?

Hunter



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineTACAA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3842 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
Why do women say yes, but mean no?

Because if they say "yes" and mean "yes" they are men not women. Is that simple.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3839 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
Is this normal?

Where a woman is concerned there is NO Normal . . . there is only  confused  .

I love my g/f to death, but sometimes I wonder . . . . she's blonde, no really she is  tongue   wink  and the stereotype occasionally fits . . .

Wolverine - don't waste your time trying to understand . . . alas you shall lose your mind in the process . . . just remember these few lines and you'll be fine . . .

I love you Dear.

Yes Dear.

You're right Dear.

And keep an extra fridge pack of your favorite beverage handy just in case.  rotfl 


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12242 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3832 times:
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Have a good trip  Smile Enjoy the peace and quietness in the woods without her  Silly


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User currently offlineWolverine From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

LOL!!!

THX Guys!! Good to know that I'm not the only one with such problems...



Face your fears, live your dreams! (No Fear)
User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
I love my g/f to death, but sometimes I wonder . . . . she's blonde, no really she is and the stereotype occasionally fits . . .

Same here!!!!! She's a blonde suburban girl...yikes!


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3813 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
And keep an extra fridge pack of your favorite beverage handy just in case.

Yeah . . . and what happens when she starts crowding the fridge, or just simply makes a power play - "You can't have that - we're not going to have that in this house" kind of thing? Just seems to me women test boundaries (at the least) sometimes.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 7):
Have a good trip Enjoy the peace and quietness in the woods without her

 rotfl 

Try Askmen.com for some pointers on this. You might get a response like telling her to enjoy herself at home while you and her best gf enjoy the woods together (suitable backup is what they call it) - not that I endorse that, but they'll give you sharp tips.

-R


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3807 times:

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 10):
You might get a response like telling her to enjoy herself at home while you and her best gf enjoy the woods together (suitable backup is what they call it)

I endorse it 100%...wear a cup when you tell her that though or else you may never be able to have kids.

[Edited 2007-07-08 20:57:31]

User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3793 times:

They're not too complicated, some mathematician figured them out...



User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3787 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
Yesterday she told me, she don't want to go.

She forgot her period was coming with all the nice psychological effects attached  mischievous 


User currently offlineRichPhitzwell From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3774 times:

Got to love bash.org

"DragonflyBlade21: A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired."


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3774 times:

Seems to me there might be another problem bothering her and she wants to find out! Talk, talk, talk to your girlfriends, boys and you won't have to guess. Advice from someone who's both a mom to teenage boys and a girlfriend to a nice, talkative guy  Cool.

In my case I'd love to go camping with my guy (yes, the ultimate test for a relationship, I know) but only if I was sure things were 100% allright between us. You're going to be in very close proximity to each other 24 hrs a day and even have to do survival tricks and depend on each other. Just as scary for girls as for boys!



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineCoz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3770 times:



User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3761 times:

Quoting Rammstein (Reply 13):
She forgot her period was coming with all the nice psychological effects attached

Very, very, very, very, very true.

Quoting RichPhitzwell (Reply 14):
A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired."

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3748 times:
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Quoting Wolverine (Thread starter):
What do you think? Is this normal?

OK, I'll try to give a serious answer, eventhough that's not an easy task. I think there are 2 distinct possibilities why your gf decided to suddenly cancel the trip:

1. there's something wrong in the relationship, something she wants to tell you and that you need to straighten out before going on vacation. Women often aren't good at expressing what they feel, and it might be a good idea to try and find out what the problem is

2. she really doesn't like camping, and simply didn't have the guts to say "no" when you originally planned the trip. Forget it, she will never say "I'm sorry, I shouldn't have accepted in the first place, I'm wrong but I hope you'll forgive me". She will find stupid excuses and never admit that she doesn't like camping.

The hard part is finding out which one it is. Good luck - and really, try talking to her!



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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8997 posts, RR: 76
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3746 times:
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Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 12):



Quoting Coz (Reply 16):

Damn right, damn right man  bigthumbsup 

I think this is one of the last unsolved mysteries on this planet: WOMEN...

WILCO737 (MD11F)
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User currently offlineWolverine From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3736 times:

So, ok, I'll try talking to her.. I really don't know what the problem is, but let's see if we can find out..
I know she would never say that she's sorry, even if she is.



Face your fears, live your dreams! (No Fear)
User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3725 times:

Quoting Wolverine (Reply 20):
I know she would never say that she's sorry, even if she is.

 ouch  I've been there. Why do women do that? Self-righteousness? A feeling they'll lose "bargaining power" (or any other "power") in the relationship? A feeling that only men can do wrong in the relationship, even if the woman messes up, thus, women don't apologize?? This one irks me.  irked 

-R


User currently offlineFemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3709 times:

Have you guys not read the book 'Women are from Venus, men are from Mars' ( Or is the other way round ?)

It explains a lot !

My guess to the question concerned is that she is not sure that this trip is such a good idea - How long have you been together ? She may not be ready to spend that length of time just you and her under the stars ?? Could be that...And is backing out. Once you boys get an Idea in your head that 'This is planned and there's no going back' it can be difficult for us ladies to say " Well actually that's not my idea of a holiday and I didn't want to hurt your feelings by saying no"

To defend the fairer sex, Men latch onto ideas and we are supposed to follow , well we don't want to all of the time !!

Talk to her and tell her that it's OK, she must have her reasons for backing out of the trip - Silly as it sounds the thought of all those creepy crawlies is enough to put some of us off - me included!! Give me my creature comforts any day!!

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 4):
Well lets let the nice woman of A-net answer

Thank you MCO !!

Complicated ??? Yes definately Big grin


User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6321 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3693 times:

Quoting Femme (Reply 22):
To defend the fairer sex, Men latch onto ideas and we are supposed to follow , well we don't want to all of the time !!

And that's understandable, it goes both ways, but...don't lie and say "yes" when in the end you know you'll cancel after getting his hopes all up.


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3693 times:

Quoting Femme (Reply 22):
Have you guys not read the book 'Women are from Venus, men are from Mars' (

Read it, have a copy in the place. That's not the only good book on it. Try "The System" from AskMen. Good stuff.

-R


25 TheCol : I won't argue with those equations.
26 Post contains images Femme : Hey Coz Like it !! Filler Fuller Fatter .......Just in case
27 Wolverine : We're together since last year February. We did the same Trip last year, she said, she was happy. I think she really was. So I don't know what her pro
28 Post contains images Metroliner : oh my god! what a choice, women or planes... that's a bit drastic of her. tell her to stop being moody and decide - but whatever you do, don't waste y
29 OPNLguy : I think your question can best be answered by the following. A guy is strolling the beach near San Diego one day, when he catches the reflection of s
30 Post contains images ACDC8 : I doubt that women even understand themselves which is why they expect us to understand them for them. Just like the whole toilet seat thing. They exp
31 YOWza : Truer words were never spoken. Great pair of dashboards. YOWza
32 747srule : If it has Tits or Tires, it's gonna be trouble!!! Any questions?
33 Post contains images Allstarflyer : I guess some guys don't bother and just go whether it's left down or up. I wouldn't know any, though. -R
34 Kmh1956 : Maybe I'm a rarity, but I never say what I don't mean. If I say yes, i mean yes. I always heard "if it has tires or testicles, it's trouble!" I don't
35 MCOflyer : Your welcome. I think it would be in his best interest to take advice from woman or go to cosmopolitan's website. 1st time i've heard this. Bottom li
36 N231YE : I knew that one was going to show up!
37 Freckles : That's some pretty good mathematics. I'm a woman, we are complicated, if we weren't we'd be men...
38 Post contains images TSS : It sounds like she's making a power play just to see if you'll give up doing something you really want to do for no good reason at all. If she's goin
39 WellHung : Consider yourself lucky. Maybe you have a different idea of camping, but to me it means sleeping in a tent in the middle of nowhere with little to no
40 Legoguy : A female can not survive in a tent for 2 weeks! They need electricity for hair driers, hair straighteners etc etc Isn't two weeks abit long for a cam
41 Post contains images Vaporlock : Well, from a womans point of view..... Let her know that you have 2 weeks vacation and you don't want to hang around and do nothing. Explain that you
42 Allstarflyer : Not bad how you both came up with the same conclusion 6 seconds apart. Yeah, take her out for a day or two, see how she fares. If she hates it, bring
43 MCOflyer : Aren't all women different? You guys could compromise or you could do something else. Why don't you guys visit Niagra falls for a week and leave the o
44 Copaair737 : It's all a game. You got to be the bastard in the relationship. Women love bastards.
45 Post contains images N174UA : Go on your own and have a blast. Have a beer for me, too. Most intelligent piece of advice so far. LOL....that says it all right there. Well...almost
46 SW733 : Yeah yeah, every woman says they only say what they mean, but it's a lie. Just like when a guy says something starting with "most women..." to which
47 Doug_Or : if it floats, fly, or kcufs its cheaper and easier to rent.
48 LOT767-300ER : Obviously you are dealing with an American girl if she says "You cant have that in this house" I never watched wrestling but the Rock said it best. "
49 MCOflyer : Wouldn't someone want to be with someone as issues can get worked out? Men should never give up. Hunter
50 TSS : No, "issues" don't get "worked out"; They get buried only to rise from the grave and bite you on the butt at the most inopportune time. ...And settle
51 ShyFlyer : From where I sit, it seems as if women want the guy to know what she wants without asking. I get into trouble when I bring that up. --------------- I
52 TACAA320 : Sorry if I offended you. But usually the "exception" confirms "the rule".
53 ManuCH : If I were you, I'd leave her first - before she can even think of it. Sorry, but that's too much, I'd never let someone do "power play" with me. Mayb
54 Post contains images HAWK21M : Very Normal How about going Shopping prior to the trip Don't worry too much about it. regds MEL
55 Post contains images WunalaYann : Flairport, is that you?
56 Wolverine : My girlfriend is not really interested in Aviation. Some years ago she wanted to work as a controller, but then she decided to go to university. She l
57 Post contains images Kmh1956 : Huh? Since when? Having had an ex who wrote the book on dishonesty, lies are not my style at all. It's honesty or nothing. you must have dated some r
58 Post contains images Kay : What kind of behavior is that? Sorry there must be some huge background to this or there must have been a reason or two that you had knowledge about.
59 TACAA320 : I will try to do my best. BTW. Are you accepting that I am right in some way? I understand that from your sentence above.
60 ManuCH : The worst part of this story is that she doesn't want to talk about it. Communication is everything in a relationship - if it's gone, it will be hard
61 Post contains images KaiGywer : One of my friends just built a house for him and his wife. The damn toilet seat goes down on its own after a while... And you wonder why his house we
62 Wolverine : I just talked to her. She said, that I talked too much 'bout that trip. That's right, it's the only time to go on Vacation, this summer, so sure I did
63 Kay : Yep, worrying, you need to take the upper hand in this relationship (although never enough info on a forum to make a judgement). Best thing to do, ev
64 GerbenYYZ : Well, sounds like she's trying to make an effort in at least going on vacation together? If she lost interest in the relationship then she wouldn't be
65 Wolverine : Think I set an emotional expectation.. I had a lot of stress at work since I had an Accident with my car in December and was out of order for 2 month.
66 Post contains images SW733 : Yup, I have! And I have a great girlfriend, imagine how bad I was before her!
67 Post contains images KaiGywer : Just do it. It sounds like she just didn't like your plans. While it would be nice of her to let you know this right away, you can't really expect a
68 Kmh1956 : I will agree that there are rotters of BOTH sexes. I don't think it's entirely a female thing. Try this one...camping in the Loire Valley or somewher
69 Post contains images WunalaYann : Because we use it in its "down" position as well, sometimes. Women never use it in its "up" position. Maybe the women Gkirk meets, but not the ones I
70 Pipo777 : well how about this...I live with 2 other guys and everytime my gf comes over she gives me shit because of the damn toilet seat...since we are 3 guys
71 KaiGywer : And their excuse is "but sometimes we sit down and it sucks when the seat isn't there"....seriously woman, do you walk in with your eyes closed and j
72 Wolverine : Ok, I've just packed my stuff, and I'm cleared for Take-Off. I hope it will be cool and funny.. C U soon!!
73 Post contains images KaiGywer : Enjoy your trip (So did you agree on France?)
74 Miamiair : Why are women complicated? Because they are...
75 Adopim88 : I always mean what I say when I'm serious. I love to joke around and give people crap. But that's all it is, joking around. When I'm serious...I'm se
76 Kmh1956 : The only time that having the seat left up drove me nuts was when my little one was starting to walk, and she wandered everywhere.....crawled out of
77 Post contains images Freckles : Have you been reading "What men SHOULDN'T think about women".. a man being a bastard is not good. Well, in my experience i have never met a fellow wo
78 Post contains images Kmh1956 : Yeah...in their own simple way.....
79 Freckles : Simple to men, complicated to women. It's exactly the same, it works both ways!
80 Post contains images AndesSMF : If women were not complicated, they would be men, and then they would hold no real interest to (at least some of) us. Some women are not complicated a
81 Don81603 : There's an old saying I heard someplace. It's as true today as it has ever been in the past. "A woman's faults are many, but men have only 2. Everythi
82 EWRCabincrew : Yet another reason why I am gay. Living with another man is easy. You want something, ask. If you don't ask, you don't get. No need to pursue an answe
83 Don81603 : Jeff Foxworthy said it best. "My wife said we are out of toilet paper". What SHE hears is "go buy more toilet paper" What I hear is "Take a suitable s
84 Post contains images EWRCabincrew : Or can't live with 'em and you can't shoot 'em.
85 Pipo777 : Probably women don't like bastards like Freckles says...but they definately seem to have a problem identifying them...they just can't seem to realise
86 Post contains images ManuCH : And believe it or not, I have at least 3 straight friends who tell me they would like to be gay, so they could live with a man, but they just can't h
87 DL777LAX : hahaha... damn gays, have it easy. BASTARDS!!! Why are women so complicated? I think its just another one of those things god does to confirm that go
88 Freckles : Yeah, but then guys complain when they don't have women and then when they have them they complain about them being complicated? Guys are tough too.
89 Cumulus : They're all mental, and when they hit 40 they get even worse. Cumulus. (Recently divorced and had to pay his ex Mrs £88,000 for doing nothing, but I'
90 Post contains images TSS : And they say you can't put a price on your freedom...
91 Post contains images Pipo777 : life is a bitch, isn't it????
92 AirframeAS : The sad thing is.....women are correct 99.9% of the time. Now having said that....this is why I never argue with a woman, because I know I will lose i
93 Post contains images WILCO737 : Well said and 100% correct... maybe this was the 0.01% where men are actually right WILCO737 (MD11F)
94 Wolverine : Hey, Buddies! I'm back. I must say, it was a real great trip! The first night we were at Dole, Jura, the next day we drove down to St.Remy sur Durolle
95 Post contains images OPNLguy : Another case of freedom not being free.... The three rings... The engagement ring... The wedding ring... Then, the suffering...
96 SW733 : And women complain about not having men and then complain that their men aren't sweet enough or romantic enough.
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