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User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2970 times:

In the quest to finally stop our childbearing abilities after our third child is born (anyday now), we were both looking into surgical treatments.

She was going to get her tubes tied and I was...can't say it, but you all know it.

It has lately come to light from friends and family that having a woman get her tubes tied can cause some hormonal problems. Sort of like bad PMS. Obviously something to avoid. It can be treated by constant hormone treatment.

So to avoid all sorts of hassles, I will be the only one that will now remove my genes from the pool.

Just a little FYI.

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User currently offlineEK20 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2958 times:

Just get a vasectomy.  Smile

Too much Information there....  Wink


User currently offlineFemme From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2938 times:

Quoting EK20 (Reply 1):
Just get a vasectomy

Yup, it's much safer and there's no General Anaesthetic involved along with the complications it may bring. You'll be in and out in a day. Just do it !!

 yes 


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21804 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Quoting EK20 (Reply 1):
Just get a vasectomy.



-Mir



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User currently offlineMetroliner From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 1067 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

nooooo!

wait for the male pill to come out! anything but the snip!



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User currently offlineCheckraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Quoting Femme (Reply 2):
Yup, it's much safer and there's no General Anaesthetic involved along with the complications it may bring. You'll be in and out in a day. Just do it !!

I'm sure you're a nice lady and all, but I don't think you're qualified in this arena.  Wink

I've had this discussion with my fiance and she wants to be the one to get fixed. She doesn't want me having that sort of freedom. Fine by me - I'll keep my sack intact.


User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
can't say it, but you all know it.

Wimp  wink 

Quoting AndesSMF (Thread starter):
I will be the only one that will now remove my genes from the pool.

Well, I have been calling for a flushing of the gene pool for months now.  laughing  biggrin 

Conrad, my friend, go get it done. It's a no brainer.

Several bits of advice:

Keep it clean and cool for 2 days or so after surgery.

Limit your activity for a couple days.

NO sex for a few days - trust me on this.

Keep Junior away from the "jump into Daddy's lap" game for a week at least.  scared 

Really, I was in and out in an hour. No problem.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40036 posts, RR: 74
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

AndesSMF:
I am the last one to tell another guy what to do with his ding-a-ling but I have to ask, ARE YOU NUTS?!?!?!?!?!  Wow!
I don't like the idea of this procedure same as getting tubes tied. There are plenty of ways of avoiding getting a woman pregnant. Going under the knife unnecessarily just doesn't sound right.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 7):
ARE YOU NUTS



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
Wimp  wink 

Ditto . . .  rotfl 

Conrad, my friend, go get it done. It's a no brainer.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Andes, if she on the pill? There has to be a better solution. I can understand ANC's reasons but you really ought to think TWICE about this. I may be 20, but this is something you do in a last resort. I apologise if i appear to be rude.

Hunter



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User currently offlineRara From Germany, joined Jan 2007, 2138 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2712 times:

Ya, really, what's wrong with all the other prevention method? Do you consider the pill et.al. not safe enough?


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User currently offlineAvgroupie From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

I don't participate much on this forum. While I love aviation, I don't work in the industry so usually have very little to add to these discussions.

However, this is a topic I can give some advice on.....

I don't have a problem recommending this.

ANCF covered the basics. The only point I would empasize is the take it easy part. The local anesthetic will give you a false sense of "what's the big deal". You might feel so good, that you do something foolish like go bowling that evening.

Well don't, cuz when the anesthesia wears off - you will definately know you've been in a fight.

I can also give you a longterm test report. Have not had any problems, and have passed the thirty year mark. I still come to attention as needed, although as the years progress you may forget why....... maybe they used the wrong anethesia.


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2680 times:

To all the nay-sayers: Andes has three kids already, so he has done his bit for posterity.

With three kids in the house it's hard enough to remember to get milk and toilet paper at the store, let alone condoms or a refill of Mommy's "prescription".

Also, with three kids in the house it's nigh on impossible to find time to sleep undisturbed to say nothing of finding a quiet moment to get busy with the Missus. Now imagine how frustrating it is to finally have all three kids asleep at the same time and the Missus in the mood only to find out that you're out of birth control. Yeah, you could make a quick run to the store, but it's a lead-pipe cinch that someone will have woke up before you get back and you'll have missed your chance.

With a vasectomy, you're ready to go and safe as houses any time the opportunity presents itself.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40036 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

Wouldn't his 'load factor' drop as a result?
Is it true that it's not as thick & creamy after a vasectomy?
If the misses prefers that consistency, wouldn't this vasectomy pose a problem?
Wouldn't the vasectomy 'water it down' so to speak?


Sorry if I couldn't find a better choice of words. :o

[Edited 2007-07-09 03:40:33]


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Quoting Metroliner (Reply 4):
wait for the male pill to come out! anything but the snip!

 ouch  Yeah, just hearing about it hurts.

Quoting TSS (Reply 12):
To all the nay-sayers: Andes has three kids already, so he has done his bit for posterity.



Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 8):
Conrad, my friend, go get it done. It's a no brainer.

Make your own choice, dude. And if you ever think you made the wrong choice, there's a billboard on I-70 Westbound out of Indy that advertises microsurgical vastectomy reversals.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):

 rotfl 

-R


User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

I know of some guys that have had the surgery and thought they were ok to have relations with their wives and later on they found themselves with another bun in the oven........Is it worth snipping your bits?

Access-Air



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User currently offlineCupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 837 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

AndesSMF - Think long and hard (pun intended) before continuning down this road.

Have you thought about trying withdrawal method?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40036 posts, RR: 74
Reply 17, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 15):
I know of some guys that have had the surgery and thought they were ok to have relations with their wives and later on they found themselves with another bun in the oven........

Cheating wives perhaps?  scratchchin 

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 15):
........Is it worth snipping your bits?

Hell no!!!

Conrad, don't do it.  no 



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Wouldn't his 'load factor' drop as a result?

3-5%, not noticeable.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 13):
Is it true that it's not as thick & creamy after a vasectomy?

No.

I recommend vasectomy. Like others are saying, mine was no problem at all, a couple of days of mild soreness, a few days of taking it easy, a month and a half of using another method, then you have little to worry about. Most health insurance plans cover it (in the US), mine did.


User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):
Cheating wives perhaps?

Sometimes, but more often the tubes heal themselves and swimmers start getting through again which means you have to go in for the vasectomy a second time.

Also, you still have to use birth control for a while after a vasectomy...until you're 100% sure that all the live bullets are out of the magazine.



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Quoting TSS (Reply 19):
Sometimes, but more often the tubes heal themselves and swimmers start getting through again which means you have to go in for the vasectomy a second time.

With a section removed and both ends tied off and cauterized this is not nearly as likely to happen as it once was.


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2570 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 6):
Conrad, my friend, go get it done. It's a no brainer.

Yes, I know, still bothers me to think about.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
Andes, if she on the pill?

Third (and last) child should be born any day now.

Quoting Rara (Reply 10):
Ya, really, what's wrong with all the other prevention method?

Nothing. Except that with 3, we both know we are DONE. So a more permanent method is in order.

Quoting TSS (Reply 12):
To all the nay-sayers: Andes has three kids already, so he has done his bit for posterity.

And how!  biggrin 

Quoting TSS (Reply 12):
Also, with three kids in the house it's nigh on impossible to find time to sleep undisturbed to say nothing of finding a quiet moment to get busy with the Missus.

Wasn't too difficult to find time for the 3rd one.

Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 14):
Make your own choice, dude.

This was all as an FYI for others. As I said, we were both going to get fixed, but the side effects for women make it silly for her to go thru with the fixin'.

Quoting Access-Air (Reply 15):
I know of some guys that have had the surgery and thought they were ok to have relations with their wives and later on they found themselves with another bun in the oven........Is it worth snipping your bits?

Yes, it can happen. That's why she wanted both of us fixed.

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 16):
Have you thought about trying withdrawal method?

Worked wonders with the 3rd, right?

Quoting TSS (Reply 19):
Also, you still have to use birth control for a while after a vasectomy...until you're 100% sure that all the live bullets are out of the magazine.

Yep, that's why it is a good time to do it while she is going thru the 6-week no sex after pregnancy period.


User currently offlineAjd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

 no   no   no 

Do you want somebody cutting around your nuts with a scalpel?

I've not had it done, but from the sounds of it....it's not something I want done...


User currently offlineYooYoo From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 6057 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2359 times:

Just get snipped. Hell, you can always get it reversed if you change your mind.  Wink

My wife will be getting her tubes tied after our third child this September. We will be scheduling a C-Section so while they are in there, they can do their "work" then.



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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 22):
Do you want somebody cutting around your nuts with a scalpel?

A qualified doctor that has done the procedure many times before and has oodles and gobs of malpractice insurance? Yeah, no problem. People get root canals all of the time and there are lots more critical things that can go wrong with a root canal, and it takes much longer than a vasectomy.

Quoting Ajd1992 (Reply 22):
I've not had it done, but from the sounds of it....it's not something I want done...

It's really not that big of a deal. Going back to the dental analogy, I'd MUCH rather go through another vasectomy than just having a cavity filled.


25 Post contains images WunalaYann : You live in Alaska. Surely it is cold enough there to, ahem, naturally neutralise things without having to remove them...
26 Post contains links and images KaiGywer : Also be careful of the following situations 'Oh God...he Got Them!' (by AndesSMF Mar 31 2007 in Non Aviation)
27 Post contains images Flyingbabydoc : That is the big point: she would have her abdomen open, while you are just having a minor (ok, two) incisions on already exposed parts. I think any h
28 AndesSMF : Remember, women are sometimes quite unaware of how fondly we like and protect our 'fellas'. Yes, the thought bothers me, but you gotta do what you go
29 Post contains images TSS : Indeed. After this, the "Not now, I've got a headache" excuse had better be used only after obvious head trauma.
30 Post contains images YooYoo : My wallet says, "yes" Will you be doing this yourself with a mirror?
31 Post contains images Flyingbabydoc : Hilarious. I will make sure I remember this in the future, should my boys be subjected to the Guillotine. Well, that is indeed a good point. I believ
32 Kuna : One of my favorite episodes! Thanks for that...
33 Post contains images GerbenYYZ : I don't have it done, but according to my wife, an RN, it's considered major surgery for women to have it done, and a minor procedure for us men... I'
34 Post contains images YooYoo : Do a webcast !!
35 Post contains images Flyingbabydoc : Oh No... re-edition of "the twilight zone"??? No thanks. For a while, no Guillotine for the boys...
36 Post contains images Fumanchewd : You can always ask the wife to help give them the "love and attention" they need!
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