MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8600 posts, RR: 13 Posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2375 times:
As I work for a dealer that has them I must say my opinion has gone upon them. I used to think that they were cruddy but now after driving them compared to other vehicles, they seem to deprecate better, live longer, and are harder to get. When I mean harder to get, most Prius models come sold after unloading off the truck. So far the Yaris and Tundra is bar my favorite car and truck. I wanted to see if anyone shared my feelings about this fabulous car company.
Charlienorth From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 5 Reply 1, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2366 times:
I used to be down on Toyota,but I have to say they make a long lasting product,my sister bought a new Corolla in 1988,and the thing is going strong,my 14 year old niece lives with the threat that that will be her car in two years,my wife bought a new camry in '95(over my objections) and it's been very reliable,no complaints.Test drove a Tundra and a Highlander and I have to say I'm impressed.I've had Ford and G.M. products and I may just get a Toyota next.NEVER EVER THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THAT!!
CupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 834 posts, RR: 7 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
My first car was a 1973 Toyota Celica. 1600cc Twin Cam. Went like a rocket. I never serviced it in the 5 years I owned it. They have always had a reputation here for reliability. With around USD20 billion in cash they are well on their way to world domination
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DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11443 posts, RR: 78 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2346 times:
It is one of the great engineering companies of all time and they make a fantastic automotive product.
Their production techniques (some of which descend from Deming and his work there after the second world war) are the envy of the worlds manufactors....to the point that Boeing and Northrup Grumman have contracted with Toyota engineers to improve their production lines (Boeings moving line comes from Toyota....and it has been introduced in factories from refrigerators to shipyards).
They are a huge employer here in the States and they deserve all the success they're enjoying.
Springbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 11 Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2331 times:
Bought my first Toyota (an Echo) in 2000, then traded it in for a Yaris last year. Now my cousin drives it, and she loves it. Never had any problems with any of our Toyotas..they are excellent cars. They have an excellent reputation here, and maintain their value..and are much easier to sell than the Holden (GM) crap we get here.
LTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12668 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
There is no doubt that Toyota had developed over the last 40+ years into the top 4 of the world as to mainline automobile and light truck production. I remember their first products in the USA, the Land Cruiser 'jeep' vehicle in the mid-1960's and the 'Corona' sedans. Those first vehicles were not particularly good vehicles, but better than other smaller cars of the time, very economical and generally with good engines. Toyota gained a lot in the 1972-73 oil crises due to their good fuel mileage and in comparison to the USA small cars, especially the Chevy Vega and Ford Pinto, seemed to be better made and designed. Those early 1970's models had problems with rusting in 5-6 years and the automatic transmissions in those early cars were terrible but at least had decent engines that could last 90-100000 miles.
Today's models are rather boring but made well, and along with their reliability being the main selling point (also with Honda vehicles). Where my problems with the Toyota, Nissan and Honda brands, is that as to USA and Canadian production cars, they are not United Auto Workers plants and are placed in anti-Union or weak Union areas and states. They also are not committed like GM, Ford or Chrysler with the overhead costs of retired workers and never will as most of their line employees probably are in 401(k) retirement programs, not pensions. That gives them the difference of over $1000 per car part of which they can reinvest and improve their cars, and can stay ahead of the old big 3.
CupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 834 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2314 times:
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 11): Where my problems with the Toyota, Nissan and Honda brands, is that as to USA and Canadian production cars, they are not United Auto Workers plants and are placed in anti-Union or weak Union areas and states. They also are not committed like GM, Ford or Chrysler with the overhead costs of retired workers and never will as most of their line employees probably are in 401(k) retirement programs, not pensions. That gives them the difference of over $1000 per car part of which they can reinvest and improve their cars, and can stay ahead of the old big 3.
Doesnt that tell you that this pension system is not sustainable?
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Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7890 posts, RR: 27 Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2295 times:
You should see their union practices here in Japan. That said...
Obviously I'm a fan of Toyota. I live in their home area so much of the local economy depends on their success and many of my Japanese friends work for Toyota group companies. They treat their employees with dignity and respect and employ loyalty like no other. Particularly on the Japanese side, the devotion to the company and team is unmatched in today's corporate environment and really speaks to the company's success in creating a sense of unified pride and purpose.
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NoWorries From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 528 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2274 times:
I had a 1977 Celica -- after 125,000 and no problems I stopped changing the oil (just topped it off) figuring it would die soon -- finally got rid of it at 175,000 -- engine still ran but rest of car was seriously worn. I think Toyotas were always mechanically solid, and over the years they've gotten better in the more subtle areas as well. I currently own a Honda but could easily see getting another Toyota (for example a big V8 Tundra would sure be appealing if it weren't for $3 gasoline ).
Acey From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 992 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2261 times:
My dad is now on his third 4Runner and he loves it. My mom drives a Santa Fe but is looking to buy either a Camry or Corolla. There's a good number of them around here, but the dominant vehicle by far seems to be the Sunfire/Cavalier/Grand Am.
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Flybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1796 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2261 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Particularly on the Japanese side, the devotion to the company and team is unmatched in today's corporate environment and really speaks to the company's success in creating a sense of unified pride and purpose.
You might be in a particularly unique situation to answer this, but my friend's mother from Hong Kong insists that Toyota keeps their best work to be sold domestically, but exports everything they feel don't meet Japanese domestic standards? This is one reason (as she explains it) why when she bought a new Camry, she had it bought and shipped from Japan rather than buying it in Hong Kong.
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Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8406 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2257 times:
Toyotas are good, strong, reliable cars. The only issues is they're a bit bland style wise. This is one pitfall of trying to create a single car for every market. But obviously this isn't an issue since they're still selling in droves. One thing that goes in their favour is the fact that they have nearly every market segement covered, from big trucks down to little cars.
CupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 834 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2250 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 13): Obviously I'm a fan of Toyota. I live in their home area so much of the local economy depends on their success and many of my Japanese friends work for Toyota group companies. They treat their employees with dignity and respect and employ loyalty like no other. Particularly on the Japanese side, the devotion to the company and team is unmatched in today's corporate environment and really speaks to the company's success in creating a sense of unified pride and purpose.
Dont forget Kaizen - They love their Kaizen (Continuous Improvement) I know someone who works for Toyota locally and they are constantly having Kaizen workshops to improve processes/procedures etc etc. Its an amazing philosophy. Even when you are No 1 in car sales to keep pushong the boundaries and improving
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WithaK From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 253 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2244 times:
Love my '87 Corolla hatchback. 5spd manual with no power steering makes it a hoot to drive, I can tell exactly what it wants to do. Got it about 2.5 years ago and is actually driving better than when I bought it, amazingly reliable. Best thing is I doubt I will ever be able to kill it without snapping it in two. It will be a sad day when I have to let it go.
Also, for those who haven't seen how hard it is to kill a Toyota Hilux here's what they did to one on Top Gear, simply amazing!
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8473 posts, RR: 13 Reply 23, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
Quoting NoWorries (Reply 17): I had a 1977 Celica -- after 125,000 and no problems I stopped changing the oil (just topped it off) figuring it would die soon -- finally got rid of it at 175,000 -- engine still ran but rest of car was seriously worn.
My 1985 Cressida had the 5M-GE engine that was notorious for leaking oil, and I had to put in about a quart a week (from 190K to 211K miles). If I could've changed the oil filter without changing the oil itself I wouldn't have bothered to ever change the oil since none of it stayed in the engine for more than maybe 2 months. You could tell that Cressida was an actual import, made in Japan...very high quality.
HPLASOps From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (6 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2220 times:
I currently drive a Tacoma that I've had for 4 years now. I love it - very reliable, never had any problems with them. My parents have each had Camrys and my dad has an Avalon. All have been good reliable vehicles. I believe Toyota makes great vehicles that last forever and I respect the way they run their business and the methods they choose to stay competitve in the marketplace. I won't say a bad thing about Toyota.
25 N1120A: Toyota makes a very reliable, very ergonomically efficient car, but a lot of their model line has lacked appeal for me of late. Now, the MKIV Supra Tw
26 LOT767-300ER: Not to ruin an opinion but if a Yaris is your favorite car, thats pretty damn unimaginitive. My beef with Toyota runs mostly on the European market..
27 Captoveur: I like the cars.. I kind of wish they would have built the new plant for the tundra elsewhere though.
28 Molykote: Toyota makes excellent (but often bland) cars. I'm 25 and have owned one Toyota product (ES300). It's a great car but I jokingly refer to it as "soy-b
29 DLOnur: I've had a number of Toyota trucks and they are phenomenal. My favorite, of course, is the Toyota Land Cruiser. I would argue the most reliable mass p
30 Molykote: I'm assuming your comment applies only to Toyota branded products. However, I thought some Camrys were made in Japan and sent to the States. Am I fla
31 Dougloid: Huh? WTF? The first real job I ever had was in the summer of 1966 at a Fedders air conditioner factory in New Jersey. I was an assembler. The assembl
32 Tommy767: My parents purchased a 1993 Previa brand new back in the day that ran for 219,000 miles. My dad stopped taking care of it after a certain point (say 2
33 LOT767-300ER: All factory sound systems are terrible. No matter if its a Premium system such as Monsoon, Bose or Infinity. I doubt you want to discuss this with me
34 Molykote: Agreed. In fact Bose in general sucks (especially for the money). Most of the population needs to learn this (in addition to the fact that Bose isn't
35 Melpax: The 'Cruisers are tough as hell, there's miles of them on the roads here. And most of them that are on the roads of Melbourne are being driven by 'so
36 Dougloid: God help you if you ever had to do any kind of work at all on the powerplant. I went to the local junkyard to get parts for my truck and there are a
37 MD-90: What's wrong with San Antonio? One of my aunts had a 1994 supercharged Previa and she used to tow her 18ft Bayliner with it. According to her husband
38 Superfly: The only Toyota I like is the Cressida, especially the pre-1986 models. The FJ Cruiser is nice and started a thread about it last winter. I wish they'
39 Melpax: There's still quite a few of those old Cressida's on the roads here, usually driven by retirees! As a result, more than a few of them are kept in pri
40 Superfly: Same here in California. You'd think they're still in production. My oldest sister bought a 1982 model in 1990. That car rode almost as nice as an Ol
41 Dougloid: After our Voyager died an ignominious death a block from home I swore off Chrysler products for good. My first inclination was to try and get a Previ
42 Mdodd: Agreed, Toyota makes amazing cars for great value and that last a long time. I own a Camry from 88, ntm I know multiple other people who own Toyota ca
43 Chi-town: I have a Lexus ES330 which is made by Toyota and I love it. Does that count?? I used to have a 1998 Toyota Avalon...Anyways, If I were to get another
44 Captoveur: I'm here and I could have lived without the influx of people.
45 MD-90: Close, the new ones came out in 1985. Amen. We had a 1981 sedan that my dad bought used from his mother-in-law, and a 1985 wagon that my mom bought n
46 MCOflyer: Its a good little car. Who gives a lfying fuc* about looks? We are scheduled to recieve the new 08 Highlanders next month and the new Scion XD next m
47 USCGC130: I've owned three Toyotas, albeit none recently: a '78 pickup, an '82 pickup, and a '90 Supra. They were all excellent vehicles, well-made and dependab
48 AirframeAS: The 2006 Toyota Corolla Sports is the most sexiest looking car, IMO! I want one of these! But the problem is, its suited for women more then men. I se
49 LOT767-300ER: Crap. Anything stock is crap in the world of car audio. If we are talking about say a ML system in a GS Series its probably one of the best OEM syste
50 MD-90: Turboed or straight? Supras shared the same engines as the Cressida (but you could only get a 7M-GTE Cressida in Japan, not sold in the US). Cressida
51 PC12Fan: You ain't kiddin'! I got to sit in one during a recent car show. Now all I need is that lottery thing to come trough. As far as Toyotas go, I'm a fan
52 MCOflyer: They are so much fun to drive. I drive one everyday and love the acceleration one can get by simply touching the gas pedal. 2 days ago. The Yaris was
53 LOT767-300ER: Where did you drive a 1.0L Yaris. That car was never imported to the USA neither is it produced or sold anywhere in this country. The 1.0L VVT was onl
54 Flighty: Toyota makes some of the ugliest cars on the road. Camry, that Solara thing, all toyotas look like they are from 1994. Toyota has no style!!! Their tr
55 Flighty: Sweet! Cressidas are nice looking. I do like 1995 and earlier Toyotas! I just don't see why they are still in production now. Some styling changes, p
56 AirframeAS: I want one so bad! Im stuck with my 2005 Ford Focus. Ehh, what? The 2005/6 Toyota Corolla Sports are so so sexy looking!