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Official 2007 MLB All-Star Game Thread  
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

I didn't see one started yet, so I'm starting a thread for the MLB All-Star Game

The pre-game was pretty good, particularly the tribute to Willie Mays. The only part I was disappointed in (of what I saw; the player intros, the national anthem, and the tribute to Mays) was the National Anthem. The two guys singing forgot to sing into the microphone and the timing on the fly-over was way off, though the joint fly-over with the F/A-18 Superhornets and F-16's was pretty sweet.

As of now: NL leads 1-0, bottom of the 2nd. Will be interesting to see if they finally end their All-Star Game Losing Streak.

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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1508 times:

Glad to see the NL jump out early, as well as Peavy get off to a good start, minus Prince Fielder's bonehead error.


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User currently offlineFutureUALpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

At least it was exciting. Too bad another Padre has to take the L for this one.


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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

Quoting FutureUALpilot (Reply 2):
Too bad another Padre has to take the L for this one.

That was a redeeming part of the NL loss (though it would have been better had it been a Giant). Also, K-Rod getting the save after Putz couldn't handle it was fitting and showed who the real best closer in the AL is. And I think this game just shows, once again, how f'ing good Ichiro is. I really hope his new deal with the M's falls through and he moves to the Dodgers or Angels.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Also, K-Rod getting the save after Putz couldn't handle it was fitting and showed who the real best closer in the AL is.

You kidding? That was a joint effort at nearly blowing that one. One guy gives up a base hit and a two-run homer to make it 5-4, the next guy loads the bases on walks before finally getting the 3rd out making that inning far closer than it should have been.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Thread starter):
Official 2007 MLB All-Star Game Thread

It was officially as boring as watching paint dry.

I fell asleep for the first couple of innings (fighting off a ragweed allergy flareup) and honestly didn't miss anything other than the Willie Mays tribute. I will say i was rooting for the 9th inning comeback but the pop fly was yet againa big letdown and boring anticlimatic end to it all.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 4):
One guy gives up a base hit and a two-run homer to make it 5-4, the next guy loads the bases on walks before finally getting the 3rd out making that inning far closer than it should have been.

Hold on now. The first base runner after the Soriano home run was there because of a walk issued by Putz. The very next batter went around on his swing against K-Rod, but the first base ump waved it off. Oh, and the major point is that Frankie finished the job that Putz couldn't finish.



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1459 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Oh, and the major point is that Frankie finished the job that Putz couldn't finish.

When has a Putz ever finished the job? tongue 

Anyway, what you said was:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
K-Rod getting the save after Putz couldn't handle it was fitting and showed who the real best closer in the AL is.

If throwing split-fingered fastballs and breaking balls in the dirt repeatedly without inducing a swing from anyone makes someone the best closer in the AL, maybe I should limber up the old wing.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1457 times:

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 7):

If throwing split-fingered fastballs and breaking balls in the dirt repeatedly without inducing a swing from anyone makes someone the best closer in the AL, maybe I should limber up the old wing.

Frankie doesn't throw a splitter. He has a show me 95 MPH fastball and throws a curve and a devastating hard slider either for strikes or in the dirt to induce swings, which he did with the first batter he faced. Also, he throws a circle changeup to left hand batters.



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1452 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
a splitter.

Who are you, Joe Morgan?  tongue 

Quoting N1120A (Reply 8):
a devastating hard slider

That ball breaks down so much, it can hardly be called a slider.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

K-Rod, along with Putz, tried his hardest to lose that game for the AL.....first off, it looked like he'd OD'd on caffeine or Jolt or whatever before he took the mound, half his pitches were in the dirt. Definitely, he's the top of his field, but it didn't show last night.

And, btw, us Dodger fans are pissed that Buck/McCarver, whoever, said that AT&T Park is the best place to see a ballgame. What losers.....everyone knows that the best place to see a game is Chavez Ravine (Dodger Stadium).

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1449 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 6):
Oh, and the major point is that Frankie finished the job that Putz couldn't finish.

That's true, but K-Rod always has a way of making things interesting. Sometimes he can strike out the side on 9 pitches. Other times, well, it's kind of like last night. I was talking to my Dad (big Angels fan) after the game, and he said he always gets nervous when K-Rod gets out there.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 10):
And, btw, us Dodger fans are pissed that Buck/McCarver, whoever, said that AT&T Park is the best place to see a ballgame. What losers.....everyone knows that the best place to see a game is Chavez Ravine (Dodger Stadium).

Hear hear! Dodger Stadium is a classic, unlike the "faux-classic" up north. But then again, I don't like anything related to the Giants (as any true Dodger fan would feel). BTW I loved the Giants fans booing the Dodger all-stars. That was great! (and I would most likely boo the Giants all-stars had the situation been reversed. I do love the rivalry!). Of course, you don't need to be a rival to boo Barroid.

In all seriousness, I was up at AT&T park in December for the UCLA bowl game (Emerald Bowl), and it is a very nice park.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21880 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1445 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
Also, K-Rod getting the save after Putz couldn't handle it was fitting and showed who the real best closer in the AL is.

Should have had Rivera on the team - this conversation would never had happened.  Smile

Quoting N1120A (Reply 3):
And I think this game just shows, once again, how f'ing good Ichiro is.

He's damn good, but there are a lot of players who would have made it all that way around on that one. Had it bounced cleanly off the wall, it would have been a double or perhaps a triple. But he is damn good, and if the deal with the M's should fall through, the Yankees have a hole in their outfield that he would fill oh so nicely.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 10):
And, btw, us Dodger fans are pissed that Buck/McCarver, whoever, said that AT&T Park is the best place to see a ballgame. What losers.....everyone knows that the best place to see a game is Chavez Ravine (Dodger Stadium).

Yeah, it's so great that they can't get people to stay around until the end of the game.  Smile

I've been to SBC Park, and the atmosphere was somewhat lacking. The best place to see a game these days is Yankee Stadium.

-Mir



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 11):

That's true, but K-Rod always has a way of making things interesting. Sometimes he can strike out the side on 9 pitches. Other times, well, it's kind of like last night. I was talking to my Dad (big Angels fan) after the game, and he said he always gets nervous when K-Rod gets out there.

I never get nervous, because K-Rod has the track record to back up his hype. He sometimes makes the game a bit interesting, but you know what will happen in the end.

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 10):
half his pitches were in the dirt.

And they swung at them.

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 9):

That ball breaks down so much, it can hardly be called a slider.

It is the sharpness of the break that makes it a slider. Honestly, he throws about 4-5 different breaking pitches that run from a rainbow curve to a hard slider.

Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 9):

Who are you, Joe Morgan?

Too tall and not chubby enough to be Morgan. Then again, I could never play baseball as well as he could with 1 arm and 1 eye  Silly

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 11):
Of course, you don't need to be a rival to boo Barroid.

He is the only thing I like about the Giants.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1442 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
The best place to see a game these days is Yankee Stadium.

Especially when the Stankees are losing.  stirthepot 



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21880 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1438 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 10):
half his pitches were in the dirt.

And they swung at them.

Lee swung at them, but Hudson just watched them go by.

-Mir



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1432 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
Should have had Rivera on the team - this conversation would never had happened.

Even Rivera admitted that had he made the All-Star Team this year, it would have been on a sympathy vote. He just hasn't had it this year. Of course, part of that is probably related to not needing a closer when you're losing every game.  mad 

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
And they swung at them.

But he still loaded the bases on walks, which tells you they weren't swinging at them, at least not three times anyway. Had K-Rod had to get two outs instead of only one, who knows how last night would have turned out.

I'm not judging whether or not K-Rod is one of the top closers in the AL. For one, I'd never heard of him till last night. Two, he did make it to the All-Star Game, so you know he has talent. But face it....he struggled out there last night.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 10):
half his pitches were in the dirt.

And they swung at them.

.....and how many times did Posada save K-Rod's bacon by stopping all those pitches in the dirt  wink 

Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):
Quoting Travelin man (Reply 11):
Of course, you don't need to be a rival to boo Barroid.

He is the only thing I like about the Giants.

Dude, the D-backs game we went to recently on our trip, they played the Giants.....the ATL-size crowd, about 24,000, that was there booed Barroid louder than they cheered the D'backs.....it was hilarious.

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):

Should have had Rivera on the team - this conversation would never had happened.

 rotfl . With the year he has had, he probably would have given up a grand slam

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):

He's damn good, but there are a lot of players who would have made it all that way around on that one. Had it bounced cleanly off the wall, it would have been a double or perhaps a triple.

First, he damn near hit a home run anyway. Then, with that bounce, you knew that with his speed there was no chance, even with that rocket hanging off the left side of Junior.

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
But he is damn good, and if the deal with the M's should fall through, the Yankees have a hole in their outfield that he would fill oh so nicely.

All that money they paid Damon to start in Center, I don't think so. Besides, I see Ichiro as too down to earth to deal with Steinbrenner's bullsh!t

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):

I've been to SBC Park

ATT Park now

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
The best place to see a game these days is Yankee Stadium.

Yeah right. That must explain why they are replacing the thing after just over 30 years  sarcastic . Dodger Stadium leads a whole host of stadiums that are much better places to watch a game than Yankee Stadium

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 16):

But he still loaded the bases on walks, which tells you they weren't swinging at them, at least not three times anyway.

The first batter he faced did swing, three times. The only reason that ump said he didn't go around is because he wanted more drama in the game

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 16):

I'm not judging whether or not K-Rod is one of the top closers in the AL. For one, I'd never heard of him till last night. Two, he did make it to the All-Star Game, so you know he has talent.

You had never heard of him? Were you under a rock in 2002? BTW, this is his second All Star game and he was the youngest player to 100 saves, despite spending his first two full seasons as a setup man. Oh, and his lifetime ERA is lower than Trevor Hoffman and Putz

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 16):
But face it....he struggled out there last night.

Except that he didn't. He lost out on a bad call, walked one guy and got a .310 hitter to pop up

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 17):

.....and how many times did Posada save K-Rod's bacon by stopping all those pitches in the dirt

Hey, when you have someone with nasty stuff, you have to be active behind the plate. Look at that change up Santana threw to take care of Carlos Lee.



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21880 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Oh, and his lifetime ERA is lower than Trevor Hoffman and Putz

Putz is a valid comparison, but not Hoffman. Rodriguez has only been around since late 2002, and Hoffman has been around since 1993. Hoffman's lifetime WHIP is lower than Rodriguez's, and he has a lower batting average against. Is Rodriguez a better pitcher now than Hoffman? I'd say yes - I think Hoffman benefits by playing in the NL. But you can't compare their career numbers until Rodriguez has at the very least ten seasons in the bigs.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
ATT Park now

Same difference.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
First, he damn near hit a home run anyway. Then, with that bounce, you knew that with his speed there was no chance, even with that rocket hanging off the left side of Junior.

No doubt. But it wasn't just his speed that made that happen - the ball had to take that crazy bounce off the wall.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
All that money they paid Damon to start in Center, I don't think so.

I wasn't thinking about center.

-Mir



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26815 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):

Putz is a valid comparison, but not Hoffman. Rodriguez has only been around since late 2002, and Hoffman has been around since 1993.

And Rodriguez has already been a playoff hero  Wink.

Quoting Mir (Reply 19):

No doubt. But it wasn't just his speed that made that happen - the ball had to take that crazy bounce off the wall.

Naturally, but the NL was lucky that wall is so high in the first place. Also, if it had been, say, Justin Morneau who hit that ball, he would have likely stuck with 3 or gotten thrown out by Junior



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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21880 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
And Rodriguez has already been a playoff hero

Yeah, you guys have our number. That's not going to last forever, you know.  Smile

-Mir



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

Im surprised that no one mentioend Ichiro's in-the-park-homerun. That was AWESOME!! That was the highlight of the game. I rooted for the Americans, glad they won it!

Americans get home field advantage during the playoffs.  Smile



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Yeah right. That must explain why they are replacing the thing after just over 30 years . Dodger Stadium leads a whole host of stadiums that are much better places to watch a game than Yankee Stadium

Yankee Stadium is far older than 30 years old. The renovations are just over 30 years....the original stadium much, much older.  sarcastic  How about you try '1923'?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
You had never heard of him? Were you under a rock in 2002? BTW, this is his second All Star game and he was the youngest player to 100 saves, despite spending his first two full seasons as a setup man. Oh, and his lifetime ERA is lower than Trevor Hoffman and Putz

Just as not too many people outside of New York cared about the 2000 Subway Series, not too many people outside of California cared about the 2002 Series. I was one of them.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Except that he didn't. He lost out on a bad call, walked one guy and got a .310 hitter to pop up


He did the job he was assigned to do and accomplished the mission.....just far shakier and a little closer than I would have liked.


User currently offlinePbottenb From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 22):
Americans get home field advantage during the playoffs.

More specifically, the Angels will have home field advantage...

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 23):
Except that he didn't. He lost out on a bad call, walked one guy and got a .310 hitter to pop up


He did the job he was assigned to do and accomplished the mission.....just far shakier and a little closer than I would have liked.

The stuff I read said that KROD never thought that he was going in and that he never really warmed up. Buy, in the end, he did his job


25 AirframeAS : MLB is at the halfway mark and you already had the Angels in the MLB Championship game?? Ok, how did you get that far?? My mind isn't even that far a
26 N1120A : The current design is just over 30 years old. New Yankee Stadium will be in the same footprint, but it will still be a new place.
27 Mir : The field dimensions will be the same, as will the basic shape, but that's it. The structure of Yankee Stadium have been around a lot longer than 30
28 N1120A : Yes, but the current design of the stadium dates to 1976 and required the place to be closed for 2 years, hence why even during the All Star game, th
29 Post contains images Mir : Well what do you expect from Fox? Yankee Stadium dates from 1923, just as Angels Stadium dates from 1966. The fact that both were extensively refurbi
30 N1120A : Then why is it called Yankee Stadium 2? Actually, Anaheim/Angel Stadium was extensively refurbished twice, but it has never missed a season. Yankee S
31 Mir : This is the first time I've ever heard it called that. I've heard "the refurbished Yankee Stadium" or "the remodeled Yankee Stadium", or even "the ne
32 Post contains images AirframeAS : Same here. Yankee Stadium has been dated back to the 20's. Ever since, it has gone through alot of renovations over the years. Same thing with Fenway
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