I think the illegal part which warrants the use of the word "caught" is that he was being paid for a sexual performance. Not that it was gay sex. The title is somewhat misleading IMHO.
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5319 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1981 times:
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1): I think the illegal part which warrants the use of the word "caught" is that he was being paid for a sexual performance.
FT got it right, he's a Republican, to his constits....it's 'Caught being Gay'...
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MattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 11 Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1975 times:
A quick stint at a local Christian rehab center, some personal counseling with his local church and a little prayer in which he's forgiven by God and all will be good.
...
Except that he'll still have received payment in return for gay sex.
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But all that stuff up there in the first sentence makes it all go away.
...
Right? I mean, we've seen it done before by other (R) lawmakers, so it works, right?
Right?
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Alias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2648 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1940 times:
I love the fact that a Florida State Rep., who probably has plenty of money, was whoreing himself out for only 20 bucks.
His next step after jail will probably be to join Ted Haggard's rehab group, and pretend he has been cured of his homosexuality.
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19255 posts, RR: 63 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 1): he was being paid for a sexual performance.
Quoting MattRB (Reply 3): Except that he'll still have received payment in return for gay sex.
Quoting Alias1024 (Reply 5): I love the fact that a Florida State Rep., who probably has plenty of money, was whoreing himself out for only 20 bucks.
Uhh, you guys have this wrong. The State Rep. was the one paying.
DeltaAVL From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1893 posts, RR: 7 Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1867 times:
From the article:
"Allen, 48, who chairs the House Committee on Energy, is married and has one child. He also is a former Little League volunteer and has donated time to the Boys & Girls Clubs of Central Florida."
Wow. What a blow to the family.
But it's still relatively humorous.
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Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2477 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1862 times:
Article was poorly written, i'm assuming in an attempt to satisfy the Legal Dept. at the Sentinel.
However one quick look at the accused, and I knew right away who was paying whom.
You know, part of me wants to be sympathetic to closet queens who get married, have kids, etc....but then I think about the effect it has on the family and my sympathy just goes...poof!
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
I have a question.
If being Gay is fine and normal, and of moral equivalence to being straight, why is it that we never hear of straight people prostituting themselves even if they are gainfully employed, state reps, and all that? What's the deal with gay promescuity?
If being Gay is fine and normal, and of moral equivalence to being straight, why is it that we never hear of straight people prostituting themselves even if they are gainfully employed, state reps, and all that? What's the deal with gay promescuity?
For the record, this guy wasn't prostituting himself, he was offering a blowjob. Aka. he wanted to perform oral sex on someone, and offered to pay the police officer $20. As for straight lawmakers paying people for sex? That happens all the time. Have you heard of the DC Madam? As for gay promiscuity - in general gay men might have fewer hang ups about sex, but it probably has more to do with the fact that they're male than the fact that they're gay.
ManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 2977 posts, RR: 51 Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
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Quoting Jamincan (Reply 13): I think that's probably sufficient to make it clear that Allen was the one offering to pay $20 to give the blowjob, not asking for $20.
That's crazy ... pay $20 to *give* the BJ? This world is strange there are probably plenty people out there who would pay to *receive* one
Mt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6363 posts, RR: 7 Reply 15, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1774 times:
Quoting Johnboy (Reply 8): You know, part of me wants to be sympathetic to closet queens who get married, have kids, etc....but then I think about the effect it has on the family and my sympathy just goes...poof!
Which makes me think that gays or people who are questioning their sexuality who marry yielding to social pressure are being terribly unfair to their future spouses and family.
My mom confessed to me that one of my cousins had the same "problem" i have - but he is now married w 2 children. And let me tell you - as a wonderful woman and cute kids as they have - my gaydar still goes haywire when i see him. Unfair assessment on my part? maybe..
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9): why is it that we never hear of straight people prostituting themselves even if they are gainfully employed, state reps,
Most gays (that i know) do not prostitute themselves for sex. But one look at that man - and paying is the only way he was gonna get some..
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38590 posts, RR: 80 Reply 16, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 1759 times:
At first I thought this thread was about Rep. David Drier (R-CA) or Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC).
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 14): That's crazy ... pay $20 to *give* the BJ? This world is strange
When you're a fat Republican, well you have to pay for those sorts of things.
j/k
I don't know much about this Allen guy but did he ever play up a tough law & order stance like many Republicans like to do?
If so, he has proven that he backs the badge.
DeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 16 Reply 17, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1727 times:
Quoting MattRB (Reply 3): quick stint at a local Christian rehab center, some personal counseling with his local church and a little prayer in which he's forgiven by God and all will be good.
You joke but don't ever underestimate the power of an apology and public asking of foregiveness by God and the Church to the voting public. Case in point...The Esteemed Mayor of DC, Marion Berry. How many political lives does that clown have?
Quoting Johnboy (Reply 8): Article was poorly written, i'm assuming in an attempt to satisfy the Legal Dept. at the Sentinel.
There is a reason why we call it the Borelando Sentinel. They aren't that good. Some of their sports beat writers are good but coverage of local news is debatable. Has been that way as long as I have been reading it going back into the 70s.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19255 posts, RR: 63 Reply 18, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1720 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11): I reread the article, and it seems pretty clear to me that he wanted to be paid for the BJ.
No, no, no, no, no, no and no. He did the soliciting, which only means he was the one who initiated the exchange. He was definitely on the paying end. Just trust me on this one.
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 9): why is it that we never hear of straight people prostituting themselves even if they are gainfully employed, state reps, and all that?
Something like 60% of "gay hustlers" are straight. Then there are all the straight ones hiring themselves out for straight sex. Jeez, there's boatloads of them.
Tom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 40 Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1704 times:
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 17): Has been that way as long as I have been reading it going back into the 70s.
Back when I lived in Daytona Beach in the early '80's, the Daytona Beach New Journal did a better job with Orlando's news than the Sentinel did.....looks like nothing's changed.
Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 17): Take WESH Channel 2 any day over the Sentinel. They do a good job.
Yep, the best there is.....(off topic, but I see Dave Marsh retired).
Tom at MSY
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STLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8994 posts, RR: 27 Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1643 times:
McCain's campaign has fallen into some hard times lately, that is for sure.
Their second quarter fundraising efforts were poopy, he's laid off about 100 staffers in the past week, and 3 top aides for the Iowa campaign have thrown in their resignations. Plus, he's skipping the Straw Poll next month missing out on lots of recognition, press, and outreach.
Eternal darkness we all should dread. It's hard to party when you're dead.
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19255 posts, RR: 63 Reply 23, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
Braybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5306 posts, RR: 35 Reply 24, posted (5 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1616 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 23): Well we haven't seen the undercover cop yet. He might have even overpaid!
True, true, never though of that. Could even have been a butch dyke, I suppose
25 AeroWesty: I just caught CNN's report on this for the first time--most of it wasn't about the arrest, but how badly McCain is doing.
26 TWFirst: I understood the article to mean he was paying the undercover cop $20 if the undercover cop would blow him... not the other way around. RE: Cfalk's co
27 STLGph: All I'm going to say is that I'm feeling extra witty today ... "The pain for the McCain campaign continues today..." Yeah yeah yeah ...
28 ConcordeBoy: ...if that's "extra", I'd hate to see the default
30 AirframeAS: Uhh okay, I fail to see the point. But all I have to add is...... (I hope this doesn't get deleted...)
31 Falstaff: Everybody goes crazy when some republican does something "immoral". Not all republicans are a bunch of bible thumping screwballs. The only reason peop
33 Falstaff: I did, but I think I will launch a crusade to go after the next democrat who does something moral. If I see any democrat politicians in church I will
34 STLGph: We already covered Hillary in church two weeks ago.
35 Tom in NO: How much campaign money did she raise while she was there ? Tom at MSY
36 STLGph: Lord only knows... She posted over $27 million for second quarter fundraising.
37 Itsjustme: Given the charges and the act he is alleged to have committed, I'd say this is a poor choice of words.
38 STLGph: Well, you never know what the family reunions are like...
39 Itsjustme: Oh. I thought the guy lived in Florida, not Kentucky.
40 ConcordeBoy: ....well, that, and the minor little issue of attempting to write horrific discrimination into the Constitution-- multiple times-- only to be caught
42 DeltaGator: With all the moronic white trash Yankees that have moved to Florida they bring the IQ level down to the inbreds living in Kentucky.
43 Falstaff: gay marriage? homosexual acts? Two different things... I have not heard many main stream politicians wanting to make homosexuals against the constitu
44 STLGph: Make up whatever you want to, but the south is the south anywhere you go, cupcakes.
45 Falstaff: There are goobers everywhere you go. They are in every state and probably in every country! I am headed out for a night of drinking in Newburg, Misso
46 ConcordeBoy: geographically, sure... culturally, not a chance. Florida has about as much social culture in common with the four "Deep South" states as does northe
47 TSS: Too true! It's hilarious to hear non-native Floridians say (with a nasal twang, no less) "Oh yah, Florida is too a Southern state!". One of my favori
48 Luisca: As a resident of Brevard County I can tell you that the general population here consist of ignorant hicks. There are more churches than schools and b
49 STLGph: The McCain Campaign issue will be visited on World News Tonight. Get out more.
50 SaturnVRocket: It would be interesting to ask one of these Republican family-values hypocrites whther or not they use condoms when they go out having such sexual enc
51 Falstaff: Why? Catholics are not supposed to use birth control, but I don't know of any other Christian denominations that care too much about that.
52 SaturnVRocket: Well their not supposed to cheat on their wives either. And they're ESPECIALLY not supposed to cheat on their wives and pass on STD's.
53 ConcordeBoy: ...which has what to do with anything currently discussed here? Unless, of course, you're foolish enough to believe everyone from the Deep South to b
54 DeltaGator: As a former native of Brevard County might I suggest you get the heck out if you find it so objectionable. It has its faults just as much as I'm sure
55 STLGph: I take it the church-of-homosexual-reform-and-shunning-of-society didn't teach you that you're actually below those college degrees, real career, and
56 Stlgph: Yeah, Meredith and Network News Services are backwoods operations all right.
57 Flybyguy: Wow, I had no idea he was soliciting a MALE officer... the mainstream media didn't really make a big deal about what gender he was soliciting so I as
58 ConcordeBoy: Nah, but it did teach me that the only thing more worthless than a diseased little homo with a false sense of importance, is the opinion of one-- par
59 N1120A: Actually, it is much more about male promiscuity than anything. Studies show that lesbians tend to be less promiscuous than any group. As far as male
61 Luisca: Brevard is the county the represantative is/was from. And I stand by my statement, of all the places I have lived in nothing has been like Brevard, b
62 STLGph: oh my god ... three college degrees = a disease?!?!?! shoot. i'm gonna quit my entire career right now and go selling knives door to door. or somethi
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