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What To Do When The Big One Hits?  
User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4394 times:

I'm new to the bay area and I live a couple of miles from the Hayward Fault. I haven't experienced a fairly big earthquake. What should I do when a large magnitude earthqauke occurs?

Should I go into the basement and cover up with a mattress when I know it's coming. Or if there's no basement, go to an interior bathoom without windows, get in the bathtub and cover up with mattress.

Or just run out the door?


Ain't I a stinker?
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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7811 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4389 times:

http://www.fema.gov/hazard/earthquake/eq_during.shtm


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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4385 times:

Stand in an interior doorway. An archway is best. As soon as the quake is over and if it's safe to do so, turn off the gas and water main valves. Some homes are equipped with automatic valves.

http://www.abag.ca.gov/bayarea/eqmaps/eqmaps.html

http://www.data.scec.org/recenteqs.html

[Edited 2007-07-18 20:53:57]

User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3012 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4385 times:
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Try asking AsstChiefMark, he's from Wisconsin and knows how to deal with earthquakes  duck   Silly


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User currently offlineKieron747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4369 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
What To Do When The Big One Hits?

Well I don't know what I'll do when "the big one hits".. You mean when I lose my virginity right?

Signed,

AirPacific747


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Try asking AsstChiefMark, he's from Wisconsin and knows how to deal with earthquakes

I'm sure when the big cheesehead thingie falls, it creates a fairly large tremor.




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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4357 times:

If it's really a "Big One", like 7.0 or greater, there really isn't much you can do, but just hold on for the ride if you're indoors. When I was awoken by the Northridge Quake at 4:30 in the morning, I was literally tossed on my ass out of bed, and couldn't move due to all the shaking going on, even though I'd landed right in front of the sliding glass doors out to my patio. I've been caught all sorts of places in quakes, including 9 stories up on a catwalk in a quake with much less force, and there's nothing you can really do.

Just make sure you quake-proof yourself as much as possible, like not hanging pictures or anything else that can fall from the wall onto you over or near your bed.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4331 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
What should I do when a large magnitude earthqauke occurs?

Start blaming others (especially the government) for why you haven't purchased adequate earthquake insurance to protect your financial interest when this event occurs. Then demand that the government and the rest of the taxpayers make you financially whole.


User currently offlineYYZAeroEng From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

http://www.getprepared.gc.ca/risks/earthquakes_e.asp

Here's what Public Safety Canada recommends.

[Edited 2007-07-18 21:16:35]


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User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4320 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
Or just run out the door?

As I mentioned in my previous OT post in the other thread, the last two earthquakes I did the following

1. Ran outdoors to watch the big event. It was pretty cool, but this is bad advice since if there is a chimney nearby bricks may fall on your head, or a power line may go down.

2. I stopped my TV from falling down and breaking. If I buy a new Plasma TV without bolting it down, I guess I will do this again!

The worst thing that happened in my house was a broken TV in one quake, and about two gallons of cooking oil all over the kitchen floor I had to clean up in the other. You can almost predict how dangerous a structure will be in an earthquake by looking at it. Apartment houses that have parking underneath, or any structure built on stilts tend to be dangerous, such as this:


Big version: Width: 250 Height: 188 File size: 11kb



I expect Hayward would do quite well in a major earthquake as it has quite a few single story wooden structures. Most of the damage in Hayward will look like this:
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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4320 times:

Quoting YYZAeroEng (Reply 8):
Here's what public safety recommends.

What's interesting is that in that link they recommend to avoid doorways. Doorways are supposed to be the safest place in a structure. I wonder how many people who write these things have been in multiple quakes?



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User currently offlineYYZAeroEng From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4303 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
I wonder how many people who write these things have been in multiple quakes?

I've got no idea.
Their reason for not standing in doorways seems to make sense.

Now that I'm living on the west coast (and they've been talking about the Big One hitting YVR any day now for ages) I figure I should prepare myself. That website seems to be a good start.

Aside from the doorways, anything else not match up with your experiences?



Mind that Bus! What bus? *Splat!*
User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4303 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):
What's interesting is that in that link they recommend to avoid doorways. Doorways are supposed to be the safest place in a structure. I wonder how many people who write these things have been in multiple quakes?

The site had some pretty good advice, but the

"Avoid doorways. Doors may slam shut and cause injuries. "

did seem to be a little off the mark. Maybe Canadian earthquakes and doors are different.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4300 times:

I expect Hayward would do quite well in a major earthquake as it has quite a few single story wooden structures. Most of the damage in Hayward will look like this:

Hey! we build our trailer homes sturdier than that!



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User currently offlineGunships From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 574 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4290 times:

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 12):
Maybe Canadian earthquakes and doors are different.

I think they're the same ever since the North American Free Trade Agreement was implemented in 1994. They may have been different before then.


 hyper 


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4283 times:

The Hayward fault is stretched tighter than a fat woman's thong. It's more likely to slip than the San Andreas fault. And when it does, it's gonna be a big one.



The darker the color, the worse the damage:



User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4283 times:

Quoting YYZAeroEng (Reply 11):
Aside from the doorways, anything else not match up with your experiences?

Yes, a real important one. Remember a number of years ago when airlines started reminding people that "the nearest exit may be behind you"? It's because people just go with instincts and what they can see at the time during a crisis. They have to be reminded to look behind them, if that's an option.

The same goes for the wording for identifying safe spots in the house. Wrong, wrong, wrong! It's critical that you look around yourself and identify anything that can be a hazard. Don't train yourself to run to a safe spot when you might be ignoring a hazard on the way.

When I was sitting on my ass in the Northridge Quake, and couldn't stand up, the first thing I noticed was the glass doors pulsing in the shockwaves, and reasoned they stood a good chance of shattering onto me. The first thing I did was grab the blanket off the bed to cover myself. I didn't care if I could see or not, the electricity went off while I was reaching for the blanket anyway. My old instincts of diving under my desk at school kicked in, which we used to practice a couple of times a year.



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4275 times:

It's always a good plan to have an emergency kit with food and essential supplies. I put one together, and it's fairly easy to maintain.


No matter how random things may appear, there's always a plan.
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4267 times:

Quoting TheCol (Reply 17):
It's always a good plan to have an emergency kit with food and essential supplies.

Instead of stocking individual food items, I simply bought three cases of assorted MRE's on eBay. My emergency kit is stored on the cool concrete floor in my basement, so they should be good for ten years. I also have three cases of bottled water, which gets rotated every two years.


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4250 times:

I also have three cases of bottled water, which gets rotated every two years.

Isn't wine better, especially red, because the older it gets the better it taste. The same with cheese.



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User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4240 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 19):
Isn't wine better, especially red, because the older it gets the better it taste.

 no  Can't do. I'm a recovering drunk.

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 19):
The same with cheese.

The last thing I want to experience during my personal apocalypse is constipation. But then, it could counteract the dysentery


User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4239 times:

Quoting Confuscius (Thread starter):
What should I do when a large magnitude earthqauke occurs?

1. Remove all sharp objects from your pockets.
2. Loosen tight clothing.
3. Place your head between your knees.
4. Kiss your ASS goodbye !
5. Depending which side of the fault you are on, wave 'Bye Bye' to either California or San Fransisco.

WrenchBender



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20822 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4232 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 18):
Instead of stocking individual food items, I simply bought three cases of assorted MRE's on eBay.

That's a great idea! One of those "why didn't I have a V-8?" kind of things people usually forget to have an emergency supply of is charcoal. During the Northridge Quake we didn't get our power back until late in the day, and people on my floor brought stuff to my apartment that we cooked up on my Weber, once we knew there wasn't any danger from gas leaks. A freezer will keep things in relatively good shape without power for a couple of days, and a BBQ and charcoal may be the only way to cook.



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User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 4223 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):
That's a great idea! One of those "why didn't I have a V-8?" kind of things people usually forget to have an emergency supply of is charcoal. During the Northridge Quake we didn't get our power back until late in the day, and people on my floor brought stuff to my apartment that we cooked up on my Weber, once we knew there wasn't any danger from gas leaks. A freezer will keep things in relatively good shape without power for a couple of days, and a BBQ and charcoal may be the only way to cook.

Be careful with this. Every hurricane season, some dumbfuck dies of carbon monoxide poisoning because they used their grill indoors after the power went out. Also, an open flame after a big earthquake when the integrity of all the gas lines hasn't been verified is a receipe for disaster.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 24, posted (7 years 5 months 6 days ago) and read 4220 times:

What To Do When The Big One Hits?

Start a thread on Airliners.net.


AeroWesty:
I was in that earthquake too.
I lived on Devonshire & Lindley in Northridge. Would you believe I slept throughout?!?!?!  Wow!
I am a heavy sleeper. When I woke up, my room was a total mess. I thought I had pissed somebody off and they came and ransacked my place. When I turned on the TV, I saw that there had been a major earthquake.
I was attending Cal State Northridge at the time and many buildings were destroyed. For three weeks, I had two classes that met under a tree.
There were not enough tents.



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25 Copaair737 : Up here on the NorthCoast they are saying there could be a big one soon. It's set on a Tri-junction of 3 plates, much like Indonesia. The last school
26 Post contains images AeroWesty : That's why I wrote "once we knew there wasn't any danger from gas leaks". Now who would BBQ indoors? Honestly, some people. Yikes, you had power that
27 Post contains images Iflyatldl : Quoting Superfly: (Reply 24) What To Do When The Big One Hits? Start a thread on Airliners.net. AeroWesty: I was in that earthquake too. I lived on De
28 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Looks like the Bay is in need of some I lived in the bay for 3 years and didn't feel one earthquake. I would suggest relishing the moment and taking
29 Post contains images Aaron747 : We have a family earthquake plan but I often wonder how practical it really is. Expect the worst, hope for the best. Especially since there's a 70% pr
30 Post contains images Walter747 : Now if you live in a Trailer Home hoe can you afford anything other than Carlo Rossi. I mean the older that gets the worse the headache you get.
31 Post contains images Halls120 : When the Northridge quake hit, it woke me up, and almost tossed me out of bed. I remember our next door's neighbors swimming pool going slosh, slosh,
32 TSS : Either of those are suitable responses to tornados, not earthquakes, although the bathroom idea would probably work reasonably well in an eathquake a
33 AeroWesty : Why would you want to go to a confined space with potentially slippery surfaces and lots of glass that could shatter? There isn't anything inherently
34 DL777LAX : I slept right through Northridge. I was 18 months. What to do when the big one hits? DUCK AND COVER!!!!!!!!!
35 Post contains images TSS : True, but if you're in a good sturdy tub with a mattress over you, I'd imagine you're less likely to be crushed or cut by debris there than anywhere
36 AeroWesty : Okay, let's think about this. Bathtubs survive because they used to be made from cast iron. Cast iron tubs are rarer and rarer these days, they're us
37 Post contains images TSS : Okay, where you're at when it hits is where you have to deal with it. Duck and cover is about all you can do. (I'm used to dealing with tornados, so
38 Post contains images Aaron747 : Not really sure this is an option if I happen to be barreling down the rails on a JR train at 100 mph.
39 AirframeAS : Drop, cover and hold. Yes, that means getting on your knees and getting under the table, secure yourself to the table, put your head down to protect y
40 Post contains images Superfly : We were practically neighbors. This was during my brief stint at Cal State Northridge. I am originally from Indiana too but I don't ever went to move
41 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : No, no, no. Wrong, wrong, wrong! [Edited 2007-07-19 16:31:03]
42 Post contains images AirframeAS : My god, they taught you this in the military?? ROFL!
43 Post contains images Iflyatldl : Quoting Superfly( reply 40): Quoting Iflyatldl (Reply 27): I grew up on Reseda Blvd just South of San Fernando Mission Blvd., before the 118 was built
44 Post contains images Seb146 : They talk about the same thing in SEA and PDX. Any day now, the big one will hit! I have been hearing that since Mt. St. Helens blew up. I also heard
45 IFEMaster : I've not been in a major quake yet...just a couple of five-pointers and a few four-pointers. But my wife has been through several; Northridge and Whit
46 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : [Edited 2007-07-19 20:32:12]
47 AeroWesty : Do you practice this? I mean, if you were injured and couldn't move, and the gas is leaking, could your wife (or kids, if you have any) turn it off?
48 Confuscius : Now if you live in a Trailer Home hoe can you afford anything other than Carlo Rossi. I have more class, I prefer Boone's Farm or Manischewitz.
49 TheCol : Yeah, everyone should have a big ass wrench in their kit to turn off the gas. Checking the gas main would be the first thing I do after an earthquake
50 IFEMaster : We have no kids, it's just the two of us, and both of us know how to turn of the gas and the water. We're also both first aid certified, so that's a
51 Post contains images SJCRRPAX : I have never heard that. You mean if the batteries go dead, you throw them in the dryer and they get recharged? How does that work?
52 IFEMaster : LOL. No, these flashlights have no batteries. They convert kinetic energy in to a stored electrical charge. Or, in English, shake it around for a bit
53 Post contains links Superfly : We just had an earthquake! http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=25459 Ihope Confuscius was able to find a mattress.
54 EMBQA : Good morning and welcome to San Francisco....!!!! Did you enjoy your 4.1mag wake up call....??? Your thinking of a tornado. Earthquakes happen with n
55 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : I know. I know. I know. It's a joke. Here's the map of the shake area.
56 AeroWesty : Yes, yes. If this was a tornado, "Grab Toto and hide from wicked witch" would have been on the to-do list. Yey! We were just in time.
57 Confuscius : Ihope Confuscius was able to find a mattress. I dug myself a basement! Earthquakes happen with no warning and are over within seconds. I thought barny
58 AeroWesty : That's supposedly true, but what are you going to do, carry a chicken around with you for signs of that it may be acting odd? I'm convinced that ther
59 AsstChiefMark : Get in touch with the mites that live in your eyebrows.
60 USCGC130 : Run out into the street and scream like Shelley Winters. Seriously, I was on the second floor of a rickety old wooden apartment building in Santa Cla
61 Post contains images IFEMaster : I don't know about minutes, but certainly my cats know about a quake a good ten to twenty seconds before anyone else in our house. In fact, the Whitt
62 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Hey, not all conservatives here are Repubs. Jump and hope you have hang-time like Michael Jordan. We'd only be days away now . . . glad I'm not going
63 Tootallsd : The better recommendation is to get a gas key and then chain it to the gas meter. This puts it in the right place when you need it. For general earth
64 Trekster : Can you upload the vid to youtube so we can see it you think???
65 Bohica : I was in SF during the 1989 earthquake. I was driving my car when it hit. At first I thought the wheels were falling off it. I stopped the car then re
66 IFEMaster : I'll see if the father-in-law has some way of capturing it on his computer. It's on old analogue tape, so no easy firewire transfer...
67 EXTspotter : Yes, protect yourself from Atomic Bombs by getting under a desk?
68 AsstChiefMark : Most definitely!
69 Post contains images Superfly : We do have Chicken John running for mayor this year. Perhaps he can promise to predict earthquakes. Falstaff was here over the weekend the quake woke
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