Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
Does your state/country mandate wearing a helmet on a motorcycle? It's irrefutable that helmets do save lives, but do you think the government should force it down your throat? My state only requires helmets for riders on a learner's permit or for those under 18.
While not mandatory for me I'll wear one unless I'm making a quick trip on city streets at speeds of 35 MPH or less. Since I ride a Harley I get chided a little for it when I'm with a group but I just feel naked without it.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
In principle, I don't think that State government should be able to force someone to wear a helmet. However, I don't want to pay a premium for my auto insurance because people ride around without helmets. So, since I have no option of paying less because I don't ride a motorcycle without a helmet (or at all), I'm for helmet laws.
Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1832 times:
Since you bring up insurance premiums that could create an interesting option for motorcycle insurance. An option where you could pay less for your cycle insurance but you must wear a helmet. If you're involved in a crash and helmetless your policy wouldn't pay for any medical costs.
In Ohio, you are required to wear a helmet for ONE full year after you get your endorsement. After that it's optional.
On the other hand, it is mandatory for your passenger to wear a helmet at all times.
Personally, i wear my helmet ALL the time. Even if it's a 1 min. ride to the store doing 10 mph.
Kmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:
In Bermuda, they're mandatory...and our speed limit is 35kph. I'm all in favor of helmet laws...
Quoting Checkraiser (Thread starter): I'll wear one unless I'm making a quick trip on city streets at speeds of 35 MPH or less
So, when you get hit by some bozo who thinks that the 35MPH speed limit doesn't apply to him, and hits you at about 70MPH? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an impact speed of 105MPH? I think you'll regret not wearing the helmet that day...if your brains aren't all over the sidewalk, that is.
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Checkraiser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1791 times:
Quoting Kmh1956 (Reply 6): So, when you get hit by some bozo who thinks that the 35MPH speed limit doesn't apply to him, and hits you at about 70MPH? Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an impact speed of 105MPH?
If it's a head on crash then you're right. And in that case, you're not going to survive, helmet or not. That would likely kill you if you were in a small car.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1767 times:
If you've never peeled someone's head off a tree because they weren't wearing a helmet . . . then you have no way to understand . . . .
Last summer, July in fact, an older gent riding his Harley along the Richardson Highway . . . missed a turn. No helmet. Skull crushed against a birch tree. No other life threatening injuries, no broken bones, no internal problems, no nothing. Just no head left.
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
..just like seatbelt saves lives, helmets saves lives too...it should be a law..growing up in Illinois, I've never understood why there aren't mandatory helmet laws...I've seen one-too many "jack-heads" "hot-dogging" around their bikes w/out helmets, especially right now during the summer.
When I had my motorcycles (1973 Yamaha RD-250 and 1974 Norton 750 Commando-I haven't had a motorcycle in about 12-13 years), I always wore my helmet, even if it was for a 5 minute ride... ......
It's nice to know its mandatory here in California..
DL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
My state requires them, although I frequently see idiots buzzing around on 1100cc sport bikes with no helmet, t-shirt, and shorts. Even stupider are the Harley "badasses" who wear those little half-helmets that wouldn't protect anything just to get around the law. I can't imagine getting on a bike without a helmet and at the very least long sleeves and pants, if not riding leathers.
Having said that, it's not the role of the state to protect stupid people from themselves. Helmet laws should be repealed. So should laws that force insurance companies to cover medical expenses for people regardless of whether they wear helmets, etc. Let the insurance companies charge more if people want coverage to ride helmetless.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Washington State has a mandatory helmet law (Thank god!) that I voted for.
Arizona, on the other hand, does not. Makes me real uncomfortable when driving alongside or passing a motorcycle. If they don't wear a helmet in a crash, thats their choice and I am not calling 911, seriously! Not wearing a helmet is endangering your life, plain and simple.
(yes, I expect to get flamed for this. )
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Lowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
I have no idea if they are required, but I always wear mine anyway. I look at is as prevention as well as protection. My helment has a few scars where rocks from from a passing truck has hit it. Had I not been wearing one, the rock could have caused me to have an accident.
I agree with the idea that insurance companies should be able to put a helmet clause in the policies. Basically, if you agree to wear a helmet, you pay a lower rate. If you then have an accident where you were found not wearing the helmet, you are not covered. Further, I think states should be able to limit the amount of aid given to accident victims who did not wear seatbelts or helmets. If you will not take reasonable steps to protect yourself, you should not expect unlimited aid for it.
JAGflyer From Canada, joined Aug 2004, 3648 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1724 times:
In the US, no. If people want to stupid and ride without a helmet, let them get hurt and they'll have to pay their own medical bill. In Canada Yes for helmet laws. Why should I pay with my taxes for medical care because some person isn't wearing a helmet? It really makes me upset to hear about bike accidents where the rider is doing 200KM/H and gets in a crash with a truck. The truck driver is fine, the biker is near death due to head injury. Yep, in hospital and I'm paying for it!
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57AZ From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2586 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
I do agree that helmet use should be mandatory. Unnecessary hospitlizations cost us all in the form of higher healthcare costs-whether it's insurance premiums or lost worker productivity. In Arizona, helmet use is only mandatory for persons under the age of 18. IIRC, my former home state of Tennessee has a mandatory helmet law. Motorcycle crash deaths were somewhat rare there, no doubt due to the law.
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CanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3405 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (7 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1702 times:
Seatbelts are mandatory. Why not helmets?
We get to pay the health care. Why not give tickets instead so they give money instead of taking it?
Only an idiot would ride around without one anyway. So how is it that bad?