AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 918 times:
Last night, the Democrats went on with the first of two Presidential debates featuring questions posed by the citizens of YouTube. No doubt CNN had to sift through their fair share of crap, but I thought the questions were largely well-chosen and the whole thing went rather well.
Candidates Dodd and Kucinich surprised me the most - both of them really came out of the woodwork and brought up some good points. Anecdotally, it'll be interesting to compare Kucinich's poll numbers and mainstream appeal this time around compared with 2004.
Gravel, as usual, played the role of the grumpy old man IMO, but I did like his suggestion about tax structure reform - that sounded to me like a bright idea to change America from a nation of spenders back into the nation of savers that we were 100 years ago.
So, what were your thoughts? Which candidate(s) surprised you?
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19271 posts, RR: 63 Reply 1, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 915 times:
The two best bits were the guys from TN who asked what the candidates thought of Gore, and when Kucinich said, "Notice CNN didn't put anyone to the left of me?"
Otherwise, it was about the same as the other debates. Some good discussion about how No Child Left Behind is a failure, and an honest answer from Biden that he only voted for it because of his trust in Ted Kennedy. Wish there was more of that kind of candor in the campaigns (not to mention the White House).
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 910 times:
Quoting AC773 (Thread starter): Candidates Dodd and Kucinich surprised me the most - both of them really came out of the woodwork and brought up some good points.
...and then there was Joe Biden-- WTF was he on??
Not that he had a snowball's chance to begin with, but I'd say he torpedoed whatever ambition he held by this point.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 893 times:
Mike Gravel kissed his ass goodbye when he said, "There's no difference" between the draft and registering for Selective Service. Ummm... There's a BIG difference.
AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 893 times:
Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 1): "Notice CNN didn't put anyone to the left of me?"
That was gold.
Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2): ...and then there was Joe Biden-- WTF was he on??
I thought he did rather well in the last debates, but this time it was like he was just trying to shoot himself in the foot - almost as nutty-sounding as Gravel.
BTW, anyone notice Howard Dean's "80's stock broker" glasses? You'd think at that price they'd hand him a mirror.
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AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 19271 posts, RR: 63 Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 888 times:
Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 4): "There's no difference" between the draft and registering for Selective Service.
That whole question didn't get the play it should have. If women should be required to register for Selective Service as well as men.
AsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 881 times:
Does Gravel expect our former enemies to remain our enemies forever? Why the fuck can't Obama ever answer a simple question without going off on a tangent about something completely different?
I do not know where you got that from but she actually did pretty bad in the debate. The clear winner of the debate was Obama especially when he talked of using diplomacy as his ultimate tool for foreign policy, Hilary on the other hand was flip flopping on issues as usual. Edwards in my opinion came a close second with the good points being brought to the podium.
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