Basically, they discontinued the 17inch, gave it faster processors, nvidia graphics card, and a base of 250 gigs of storage and 2 gigs memory. Oh, and its thinner too.
Blindly following anything is bad, unless of course your blind and your following a guide dog.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20845 posts, RR: 55 Reply 1, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
Quoting DL777LAX (Thread starter): Basically, they discontinued the 17inch, gave it faster processors, nvidia graphics card, and a base of 250 gigs of storage and 2 gigs memory. Oh, and its thinner too.
The graphics processors are from ATI.
And for me one of its best features is the ultra-thin new keyboard with (finally) two USB 2.0 outputs!
I think I'll get one of those to replace my somewhat used-up keyboard for the PowerMac G5...
By the way: The Mac mini has now received an upgrade to Core 2 (64 bit) CPUs as well. It was high time for that, too!
Rabenschlag From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1688 times:
Is that a decent graphics card they are providing?
Are they competetively priced? What would I have to pay for an equivalently potent Dell Computer?
How many colors can be displayed by the screen at max resolution?
Flynavy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1682 times:
Wow, what a cool redesign! I've been considering buying a desktop Mac for a while. I currently use a MacBook. Looks like I've got a winner! I'll definitely have to pick up one of these!
AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1622 times:
I never thought I'd say this about an Apple product, but...
Am I the only one who thinks this new iMac is ugly? It looks like the bastard child of a G5 iMac and a Dell monitor - gaudy applications of silver and black applied over the signature iMac shape. For good measure, they added an inconceivable giant black band around the monitor and a keyboard with white keys to clash with the whole package.
My second gripe is the glossy screen - it's impossible to calibrate! Totally useless for photo or video editing.
On the upside, I was very satisfied with the hardware improvements. If you like the look, this is a value-packed machine.
Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1589 times:
Is that for the case by itself, then? The comparative dimensions I've seen between the previous generation and this one have been equal for depth.
Quoting QR332 (Reply 7): Its an aluminum finish, like the MacBook Pros.
...and the Mac Pro and Mac mini--come to think of it, this leaves the MacBook as the last remaining plastic-clad computer. How long will that last, I wonder?
Quoting AC773 (Reply 9): Totally useless for photo or video editing.
Odd to see you write that, since the line I've been seeing is that glossy displays make blacks richer and colors more vibrant (or somesuch) making glossy displays ideal for photo or video editing... Go figure...
Now I've only to decide which Apple system to buy for myself (seeing as my ThinkPad is on the outs and I want nothing to do with Vista). I was leaning MacBook, but I wouldn't mind the new iMac at all. I guess it's gonna come down to screen size preference and the MacBook's integrated graphics vs. the iMac's immobility. Hmmm. Any thoughts?
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
DL777LAX From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 521 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1585 times:
Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 10): Apple's shitty website just made my browser crash, is that an omen?
No, its probably just because of a lot of excessive visitors to the website is straining the servers.
Blindly following anything is bad, unless of course your blind and your following a guide dog.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20845 posts, RR: 55 Reply 13, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1578 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 11): Now I've only to decide which Apple system to buy for myself (seeing as my ThinkPad is on the outs and I want nothing to do with Vista). I was leaning MacBook, but I wouldn't mind the new iMac at all. I guess it's gonna come down to screen size preference and the MacBook's integrated graphics vs. the iMac's immobility. Hmmm. Any thoughts?
Well, there's also the MacBook Pro... it's basically the iMac in a portable version...
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1556 times:
Quoting Klaus (Reply 13): Well, there's also the MacBook Pro...
You're absolutely right; haven't forgotten them at all. I'm just worried about it breaking my bank; the only MBP I'd be able to consider is the entry-level 15" model. And that'd be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps it'll be worth it over the four-year term of ownership--opportunity cost and all that...
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Klaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 20845 posts, RR: 55 Reply 15, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1553 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 14): You're absolutely right; haven't forgotten them at all. I'm just worried about it breaking my bank; the only MBP I'd be able to consider is the entry-level 15" model. And that'd be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps it'll be worth it over the four-year term of ownership--opportunity cost and all that...
Could well be. It all depends on how important portability is for you and will likely be through your usage over the years...
AC773 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 1730 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1548 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 11):
Odd to see you write that, since the line I've been seeing is that glossy displays make blacks richer and colors more vibrant (or somesuch) making glossy displays ideal for photo or video editing... Go figure...
Glossy displays do make blacks deeper and colors more vibrant, but those qualities are exaggerated. It's very nice to look at, but it's not very accurate. Color accuracy is vital for photo and video editing, and only a calibrated, matte-surfaced, high quality display will bring you that.
In much the same way, I have a couple pairs of headphones that make my music sound really fun and amazing. The thing is, I wouldn't dream of using them for mixing or content creation - I have a pair of studio reference headphones with a totally flat frequency response just for that purpose.
Anecdotally, glare and eyestrain are two other annoying pitfalls of glossy displays that I forgot to mention.
Better to be nouveau than never to have been riche at all.
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
Quoting Klaus (Reply 15): Could well be. It all depends on how important portability is for you and will likely be through your usage over the years...
Exactly! I've been hemming and hawing on that very point more than any other. I mean, looking back, my ThinkPad has seen plenty of travel (and abuse)--but forward, I can't tell. I haven't moved my ThinkPad from my desk in ages--whether that's because of age or no need/desire, it's a toss up.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
Quoting AC773 (Reply 16): Glossy displays do make blacks deeper and colors more vibrant, but those qualities are exaggerated. It's very nice to look at, but it's not very accurate.
Ahh, see that's the point I've not seen mentioned--the lack of accuracy. Makes sense.
Quoting AC773 (Reply 16): Color accuracy is vital for photo and video editing, and only a calibrated, matte-surfaced, high quality display will bring you that.
Believe you me, I understand the importance of accuracy and calibration. I've worked for both a newspaper and a magazine company, and I think the IT guys spent about as much time on this as on any other issue. I, at least, was intelligent enough to actually learn how to calibrate my own monitors so I needn't bother (or wait on) the techies.
Quoting AC773 (Reply 16): Anecdotally, glare and eyestrain are two other annoying pitfalls of glossy displays that I forgot to mention.
Eyestrain because of glare? There isn't much glare to be had where my desk is positioned at home, so I guess I'd be okay.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1529 times:
Quoting AC773 (Reply 9): Am I the only one who thinks this new iMac is ugly?
I hate the new look...reminds me of a raccoon or something. The keyboard is cool (even though it's just a laptop keyboard in an external enclosure) and the new specs are nice, but I'd rather see it in all black or all white.
Anyway, doesn't matter to me...I'll be installing Vista in a few hours. Suck that Mac lovers!
Hawaiian717 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3089 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1501 times:
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 19): Anyway, doesn't matter to me...I'll be installing Vista for a few hours.
Fixed that for you. :P
Have fun with that. I know a couple people that have Vista (I played with the betas, but have no plans to purchase it), have not been happy with it. Be sure to keep your XP CD's around.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8552 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1493 times:
I love it. When replace my dell, i'll look at this. Thanks man. I hope they offer a payment plan and discounts to college students.
Theredbaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 1697 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1476 times:
Just read the tech manual on the new IMAC, heck the glass has to be removed by suction cups!! and its not tempered, anyways I have already ordered mine! 24 inch to replace my Imac current (old) Imac 24 inch....
Airwave From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 1117 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1464 times:
Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 21): I hope they offer a payment plan and discounts to college students.
They do. You can get a monthly payment plan if you sign up for their credit card and Apple has an education store, so you can get a discount through that, as long as your college or university participates (and it seems that most do).
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Swiftski From Australia, joined Dec 2006, 2701 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
Quoting Airwave (Reply 23): They do. You can get a monthly payment plan if you sign up for their credit card and Apple has an education store, so you can get a discount through that, as long as your college or university participates (and it seems that most do).
The card is actually from Juniper, a division of Barclays.
Students in the US get a free iPod nano when purchasing. In the UK credit is through MBNA, and education discounts are available in store and online. Highest discount goes to University students.
25 Klaus: The only thing holding me back from completely switching to my MacBook Pro away from my PowerMac G5 is basically that the MBP can't support two exter
26 ManuCH: Very nice design! Unfortunately the time hasn't arrived yet to replace my November 2006 iMac 20", but I have ordered the new keyboard already. Hopeful
27 ThePRGuy: True, the 2.0 output is a great addition, but the keyboard is awful awful AWFUL. I hate the macbook keyboards, there was nothing wrong with the previ
28 Klaus: Why? Apart from looking unusually, the key caps are identical to conventional keyboards. It just has somewhat less mass and key depression is shallow
29 Dougloid: Klaus, isn't it fair to say that Friendly Skies may be attempting to install Vista in a few hours? I don't think poking one's eyes out is analogous-i
31 Airwave: You're correct. It is an Apple-branded card though and earns your Apple-relevant rewards (such as iTunes points). Only though 16 Sept., though--it's
32 DL777LAX: Does anyone else think the white plastic mouse looks out of place next to the brushed aluminum keyboard/iMac? And also how fat it is next to everythin
33 Klaus: Oh yes... I've visited a friend once who owns such a 30" beast (albeit connected to a rubbish Dell rattle-box). I simply plugged it into the sleeping
34 MCOflyer: Cool, I will probably get their I book or lap top version. I hope its better than my previous dell. Hunter
35 Klaus: That should have been widescreen mode, of course.
36 AC773: Yeah, but the iMac is jet black and aluminum. And it ships with white cables that plug into that black rear panel. Many people seem to like it, but i
37 Swiftski: I work for them, I'm just dropping hints to help people out. You're right too. I've used both 20 and 24 today and they are stunning. Gorgeous. Heavy.
38 Airwave: Alright! Do you work in a store or are you more (for lack of a better term) "corporate"? Heh, thanks. My apologies if I seemed a little offputting--n
39 PA110: I don't believe iMac's are aimed at the professional work environment. They seem to be aimed more for the home user. If you're a graphic designer or
40 Klaus: Why not? I see iMacs in many media- or communication-oriented workplaces, and the trend is up rather than down. Even when you're a photographer I'm p
41 ThePRGuy: One man to himself! I think they are awful, feel flimsy, you miss keys as they are raised and it hurts the tips of your fingers due to the less sprin
42 FriendlySkies: Actually I've been running it for two days now and love it...runs better than XP for me (quite possibly because Dell installed XP).
43 ThePRGuy: Adding to my previous post as I cannot edit. The new bluetooth kbd is a POS no matter what anyone (klaus :P) says. No num pad on a bloody bluetooth ke
44 Rabenschlag: I read that they actually downgraded the panel for the 20'' model. Alledgedly, the old 20'' white iMac had an 8 bit S-IPS panel, whereas the new 20''
46 57AZ: OK but I'd get an HP before I'd spend that much money. Just got a widescreen HP500 notebook with comparable programs for half that, plus I have 3 USB
47 Mdodd: I wouldn't go that far. Also, the iMac is REALLY competitive in terms of price and specs...find me something comperable that is cheaper.
48 Klaus: Looks like a "couch keyboard" to me... Some people will appreciate that it's much smaller than the cabled one, other people will complain about the m
49 Mdodd: via Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/08/a...g-imac-first-unboxing-impressions/ "Upon closer inspection we weren't too stoked about the scree
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