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Do North American GPS Not Work In Europe?  
User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

Good day my friends...

I bought a Pioneer portable GPS in Canada so my lovely wife would net get lost anymore Big grin (it works!!), however I will be in Europe for the next little while so I called Pioneer to see if I could buy a Europe street card and they advised me that these devices do not work in Europe....  Angry, do you know if they do or not??? or perhaps you know a web site I could buy a card???? or do you know why they do not work???

Thank you for your help

Cheers,

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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5136 times:
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The portable ones might be country specific. I have Microsoft Streets and Trips on my computer here in the US, and when I was in Norway, I installed AutoRoute and used it with no problems using the same GPS receiver.


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3966 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5123 times:

Selective Availability is not turned on currently across the GPS satellite network, so country specific denial of service should not be an issue.

What the company probably meant was 'we dont support the units use in other countries and thus dont supply the maps'.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

I have a TomTom unit, and it works fine in North America and Europe, and even comes with both sets of maps pre-installed.

User currently offlineFr8Mech From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 5470 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5103 times:

I've used my handheld (Garmin Legend) many times in Europe. No problems. No detailed maps, but no problems.


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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 5094 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 2):
Selective Availability is not turned on currently across the GPS satellite network, so country specific denial of service should not be an issue.

Doesn't Selective Availability just affect the accuracy of "unauthorised" receivers? I've been using GPS in one form or another pretty much since it went active and I thought it wasn't easy to tell whether SA was on or not, in the early years, anyway. It was still pretty accurate for wide area navigation (~50m at worst, I seem to recall). I didn't know its use in certain locations could be inhibited.


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 1):
The portable ones might be country specific. I have Microsoft Streets and Trips on my computer here in the US, and when I was in Norway, I installed AutoRoute and used it with no problems using the same GPS receiver.

The unit I have runs with I believe with Windows CE...... so would you think Auto Route from MS would maybe work?? or would anyone have a web address were I can get a Europe card?

Quoting Cfalk (Reply 3):
I have a TomTom unit, and it works fine in North America and Europe, and even comes with both sets of maps pre-installed.

Yep you are right I guess I should have done some more research before I bought it as it seams for the TomTom units you can get maps with no problem..... still have 3 weeks time to find a map which will work with my unit...

Thank you very much guys

Cheers,


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4975 times:

Do the Magellians work in Europe?


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User currently offlineMoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3966 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4936 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 5):
Doesn't Selective Availability just affect the accuracy of "unauthorised" receivers?

SA was designed to deny accuracy to third parties, but allow the US military the accuracy to strike - in this manner, civilian GPS receivers are unauthorised and thus would be susceptable to SA.

SA can be geographical, but until May 2000 it was globally turned on.

The main reason it was turned off was because Differential GPS units made SA pointless - they could correct the error that SA introduced and provide the same accuracy as the US military was enjoying.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4930 times:

Quoting Moo (Reply 8):
SA was designed to deny accuracy to third parties

That's what I thought - it's denial of accuracy rather than denial of service.  Smile


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