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Iraq War: 5.5 Million Workers In USA Toil For It  
User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8414 posts, RR: 3
Posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

Lest we think the Iraq War only involves 150,000 soldiers.... Keep in mind around 300,000 contractors are in Iraq too. Which makes 450,000 Americans inside Iraq today, give or take.

But that's not all.

Cost of Iraq War so far: est $1 trillion

Annual GDP per capita of the USA: $40,000

People-years spent on the Iraq War so far by Americans: 25 million

Duration of the war so far: 4.5 years

Number of Americans who devote 100% of their time to pay for the war and/or fight it: 5.5 million

So really, the Iraq task force of Americans numbers 5.5 million souls. These people devote themselves just to this one failed policy. Imagine if they tried to cure cancer instead. Or build a spaceship. Or solve energy problems. 5 million people working hard. That's way more than the pyramids of Egypt took to build. I just thought it was an interesting calculation.

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User currently offlineMt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6574 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1993 times:
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As GWB would say : " That is the cost of freedom"...

cue in: "America the Great".. fireworks... flags... GMC Yukons rolling of the assembly line... picket fences.. smiling children.... hamburger joints.. eagles soaring.. hotdogs...



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

And what pray tell is the point of this thread?

Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
These people devote themselves just to this one failed policy

Ahhh, there it is. Just another Bash America, Bash Bush, Bash somedamnbody thread.

As I suspected.  sarcastic 

Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
I just thought it was an interesting calculation.

Nooo, you just thought "Lets start yet another Bash Fest on Iraq" . . .


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39709 posts, RR: 75
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
And what pray tell is the point of this thread?

The co$t of the war.

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 2):
Ahhh, there it is. Just another Bash America, Bash Bush, Bash somedamnbody thread.

Hardly a bash America thread as most Americans at this point oppose the war.
Bash Bush? Yes indeed and well deserved.



I remember back in 1994 when the Republicans were screaming bloody murder about AFDC and the cost. That totally pales in comparison to Bush & Co. war.


Pepper my friend, Bush's war in Iraq is one of the worse foregin policy blunders by a US President so people will continue to talk about it and critisize for a long time to come.

[Edited 2007-08-22 23:07:43]

[Edited 2007-08-22 23:25:37]

[Edited 2007-08-22 23:26:06]


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17363 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1972 times:

Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
Or build a spaceship

Ha. Yeah, NASA has gotten us real far Yeah sure



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39709 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
Or build a spaceship.

How about better maintaining some of our bridges?
Our infrastructure seriously needs to be updated. Many cities are in need of a public transit system and cities that do have them needs to be upgraded and ramp up service.

National health care should also be a priority.

[Edited 2007-08-22 23:16:11]


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1891 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
How about better maintaining some of our bridges?

Be careful there, I was talking to a couple of ironworkers who have built a couple of bridges in their time at my laundrymat a week after that happened, and they where REALLY certian that the cause was the work crew on the bridge cutting tension cables they shouldn't have.

So I am not sure that was as much of a maintaince issue as opposed to somebody going "Oops" with a cutting torch or other implement.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
National health care should also be a priority.

Absolutely, keep it in the private sector where it belongs. Like it or not, neither the US Veterans hospitals of the BIA hospital system are known as beacons of good care. Why go national if the US goverment can't run those two programs.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 3):
Bush's war in Iraq is one of the worse foregin policy blunders by a US President

Wouldn't have had to happen if Clinton had taken up Sudans offer for Binnie in 95.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
Wouldn't have had to happen if Clinton had taken up Sudans offer for Binnie in 95.

Not only is that revisionist history, you're admitting to a few things, which I think you would never admit to in an ordinary conversation on this board. One, you're agreeing with Larry that "Bush's war in Iraq is one of the worse foreign policy blunders by a US President." Two, you're saying that if it hadn't been for 9/11, we wouldn't be in Iraq. Three, you ignore the intelligence failures not only by President Clinton, but by previous administrations. Hell, a better argument you could have made was President Bush 1 didn't go into Baghdad and get Saddam. But you choose to be partisan and blame the right's go to guy to blame when anything goes wrong; President Clinton.

9/11: Clinton's fault. The war in Iraq: Clinton's fault. Can't find the bread you like for your sandwich: Clinton's fault. It's pretty predictable.

Dave



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User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

But, Flighty, don't you know this is good? Jobs, good for the economy? Profits?




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The Coalition of the Billing + My Base aka the Addled Idiot's Super-elite wealthy criminal friends.


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3501 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 6):
Wouldn't have had to happen if Clinton had taken up Sudans offer for Binnie in 95.

Probably not since GWB and his PNAC cronies wouldn't have been given the "new Pearl Harbor" they needed to go after Saddam. Still, in light of the absolutely disastrous war and occupation undertaken by the Bush Administration, you can hardly blame Clinton for what's happening now in Iraq just because his failures gave Bush II a chance to undertake this horrific blunder. (That's not a defense of Clinton either, he did a pretty fine job of making life miserable for Iraqis too).



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User currently onlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 4):
Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
Or build a spaceship

Ha. Yeah, NASA has gotten us real far Yeah sure

...do you know how much technologies we've developed and have used in the civilian world thanks to NASA?

Maybe you can ask both Boeing and Airbus....



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 4):
Quoting Flighty (Thread starter):
Or build a spaceship

Ha. Yeah, NASA has gotten us real far

Lets see here without NASA we wouldn't have GPS, satellite TV,satellite Radio, satellite communications. Without GPS our invasion of Iraq would have turned out a lot differently.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13040 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

How about the many thousands of people employed by military contractors making the stuff the military needs to keep going in Iraq? Those jobs are in most congressional districts and all states. That is part of this formula too.

User currently onlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8414 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

LTB, I think those people are being "paid" by the Pentagon so they are part of the figure of 5.5 million.

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

At the risk of getting banned can I ask why it is people get their panties in such a twist any time people make even the smallest remark that can in some way be perceived as being anti-Bush, anti-American? Not everyone loves Bush or America and it is their right to vocalize that if they so choose. Boo hoo, get over it.

As far as the post goes 5.5 million is not that great a number when you consider the sizable population of the US. In fact in certain circles this figure might be used to prove that the US can afford to get into other theaters (such as Iran) should the "need" arise.

YOWza



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 14):
At the risk of getting banned can I ask why it is people get their panties in such a twist any time people make even the smallest remark that can in some way be perceived as being anti-Bush, anti-American? Not everyone loves Bush or America and it is their right to vocalize that if they so choose. Boo hoo, get over it.

What's to get banned over? You made a point.

Counterpoint: It's not that people get their panties in a twist . . .

Quoting YOWza (Reply 14):
any time people make even the smallest remark that can in some way be perceived as being anti-Bush, anti-American?

. . . . it's that it's always the SOS, from the same people.

OK, not everyone like the USA. OK, not everyone like Bush.

We get it already.

It's monotonous.


User currently offlineFlyingTexan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1751 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
It's monotonous.

True.


A la a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy with Slick Willie in the 90s.  Big grin


Of course this is just "a bit" more grave.


User currently offlineLowrider From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 3220 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
not everyone like the USA. OK, not everyone like Bush

I made a similar point about monotonous threads and got a week off. What will certain people do after Bush is out of office and they can't blame him anymore? Blame his legacy? Of course that will be different from conservatives blaming Clinton for for his failures. Right?



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User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1677 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 15):
OK, not everyone like Bush.

I voted for him but now I can't stand him. I usually don't bitch about him though.
Wait till the next election when a Democrat is elected for president. Yes, it will happen, Bush has ruined any chance for a Republican president next turn. Once this happens we will see a whole hoard of anti president posts.


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