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User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1890 times:


Before you ask, this is NOT a girl help post!!

It has to do with education.

OK, here is my problem.

My counselor at my high school taled to me today about my credits and performance in high school. Right now I am a junior. He tells me that he really wants me to graduate early because I've fulfilled my graduation requirements with the exception of government classes, this is great because if I do graduate early I'll go into college at the age of 17, that's a huge jump start on a career and a future.

However, there is a problem. In order to graduate early I have to take a government class over the summer, either through correspondence or Summer School. Now, I had planned on spending my summer working as a camp counselor in Island Park, Idaho, which is a wilderness area just outside of Yellowstone. I would be spending my summer helping kids, hiking, camping, kayaking, canoeing, swimming, and generally enjoying the outdoors, and getting paid to do it.

I could do this, or sit inside a classroom all summer long, studying government, while it's 90 degrees outside and all my freinds are in camp at Island Park.

OR, I could take correspondence, have my lessons mailed to me at camp and work on them there, the only problem with this is that I'd have to do schoolwork while trying to do my job as a camp counselor at the same time. So, what do you think is the best thing to do. I really would love to graduate early, I really would, and to me correspondence seems to be the best idea.

But what do you think? Any advise is greatly appreciated. I dont want to blow my summer, I want to have fun, but I also want to graduate early. Somewhere I need to make a sacrifice. Do you think I should go with correspondence?

Again, advise is greatly appreciated, and furthermore, has anyone here ever taken correspondence, what is it like and how hard is it to sdo well on schoolwork that is mailed to you?

Thanks for any help,

Aloha 737-200!!  Wink/being sarcastic

32 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
User currently offlineILS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Definately go with correspondence. Just on a late night after the fire goes out, get out some school work and work away. It won't be too bad.

User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2741 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

You should definitly do the correspondence option but be aware of what that requires, mainly a lot of self discipline. While the others spontaneously go swimming or something else fun you have to tell yourself No and stay in and work ! Are you able to do that ?

My way of dealing with it ( currently doing MA by distance ) is to require so many hours per week from myself, in my case 18. If I get it done during the week then the weekend is my own, of not I stay in and work.

A high school class in government, how hard can it be ?

PS You are 16 right ? What is the big hurry about your future and career ? Work to live remember, don't live to work !

" Help, help ... I'm being oppressed ... "
User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Hi Aloha,

I understand your predicament, I graduated and started college at 16! Hehe....

You have to decide what is more important to your future, and which decision makes you happier. Is it more important to you to work and enjoy your summer, or is it more important to get a jump start on college and your career? I don't believe there's a right or wrong answer, just what's more appropriate and important at this moment. Carefully weigh the pros and cons of each decision.

Or, is it possible to compromise? Would you be willing and able to handle two tasks at the same time, counseling and studying? You know yourself better than anyone else, so it's quite difficult for anyone to tell you what to do. We're only good at telling ourselves, basically. A decision like this takes a lot of honesty on your part, fool yourself and you might suffer or regret your decision at some time in the future.

Now, if I were in this situation, I would probably choose to do both. I'd just have to condition myself to accept the fact that I'd have to do both things at the same time, and do them well. I think there are certain compromises that could be made, and quite frankly, it would only be for a short while anyway.

Hope you make the best decision,

User currently offlineBWIrwy4 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 940 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

I would also go with the correspondence. Definitely don't do summer school. You'll need the money from your job to spend at college. Money disappears faster than you'd think once you move away from home. BTW, which colleges are you looking at? One more question. Why does you profile say that you're an old fart?

User currently offlineVafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1817 times:

Definitely go to camp! Why miss the great opportunity to go outdoors into one of the most beautiful parks in the world? Have a NORMAL, GREAT summer with all of your friends, because after you finish that government class, you'll go straight to college and won't have a break from learning. Go to camp! You'll get to fly!

I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

MY profile says that cause its kinda a joke with me. I'm 17, actually, will be 17 in exactly one week- 7 days.

If I take the correspondence, then I will balance my time at camp. Then I will get into my senior year of high school, take Government A (the correspondence course is government B), and one english class, one science class, and be done. That means I graduate one semester early, and start college before my 18th birthday. My parents are pushing me to go to my local college, Idaho State University, and take some basic classes. Then later on make my move to Hawaii and take aviation courses at Honolulu Community College.

At least that seems to be the plan for the moment.

Any other questions/advise?

Aloha 737-200!!  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineMiguel From Portugal, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

I think you can have the best of two worlds. I mean, you can enjoy your summer at the camp and by the end feel happy with your graduation. But it takes lot of work to do. Anyway, there are lots of people who work hard all day and then go to school at night. Some of them have families with children. It takes discipline and will but I belive you can make it. In the camp ask for help and advise to sennior people.
Enjoy your summer vacations and your graduation.  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1818 times:

I'd masturbate. It always helps with the important decisions.

User currently offline174thfwff From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1810 times:

I am in a independent study course right now...(it gives me 14 college credits), I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, DON'T TAKE correspondence if you are not used to independent study work!

It is the hardest thing ever. TRUST ME...but if you used to independent study work, then go for it.

Doesn't your highschool offer A.P. courses with college credit option? I am in AP History and English, both which give me 2 college credits.

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3081 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

See if you could take the correspondence now in the current semester on top of your normal courseload. Or see about the possibility of condensing the course into three weeks in the summer. Is there a gap between school and camp? My university offers a 3 week term between spring and summer where you earn 3 credits in three weeks. It couldn't be too tough condensing a high school course into the space of three weeks if you had the time available.

But whatever you do, I would definately go to camp and I would definately graduate from high school early.

You ought to get out of your household as soon as and as often as possible!

If you went to ISU, would you still live at home? If so, I'd find a reason to go to U of Idaho way up in Moscow. The tuitition would still be in-state and you could leave your situation at home. Room and board is a cost consideration though.

Good luck,


User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

174th, can you give me an idea about why it is difficult to take correspondence, I need as much info as possible before I make a decision, can you please tell me a bit more information?

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6544 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you! etc etc.

Take the summer job, forget correspondence courses, Is there something that will preclude you from taking the course at your school in the fall? I assure you that colleges and employers will put much more weight on your summer job, hence experience in life, than they will on an early graduation.

Your counselor, I fear, is trying to pad his numbers a bit. Relax, enjoy life. You have the next 50 or 60 years to worry about crap like this.

The day you stop learning is the day you should die.
User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1795 times:

Yes actually there is a bit of a problem with taking it in the fall. See, my first semester of my Senior year will complete all the credits I need for graduation except for one, a government B credit. Government B is only taught 2nd semester, after Crhistmas, and unfortunately I just cant show up for one class a day. Either you graduate early, or you take 6 classes, classes that I dont need because I have enough elective credits to graduate.

So, he wants me to take government B over the summer, then only take one semester of my senior year and graduate, he says there's no point in going a full year if I have more than what I need.

Anyway, that's why I hav to take government B over the summer.

Aloha 737-200!!  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineMilldoh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1790 times:

Hey man, if you really want to graduate early, I would recommend not starting college in the winter. It's a lot easier to start in the fall with the rest of your classmates. The extra semester isn't that big of a deal and waiting until the fall will give you a chance to learn about college life with the rest of the incoming freshmen. It's also easier to make friends instead of coming in halfway through when everyone has basically chosen the group they hang out with. If you gotta get out of high school, take the correspondence course, graduate early and work until the fall. You will need the extra $$. Trust me.

Just something to consider.

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

"...a huge jump start on a career and a future."

I never understood people saying that they want to get a head start on the future. You'll be working 40+ years of your life working at some boring old job (unless you're lucky enough to find a job you truly enjoy). Don't rush. Stay in school and have fun with friends. If I had it my way, no one should be working til they hit 30.

User currently offlineSophiemaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

You just have one class to take? I'd take the correspondance course so you don't miss out on your summer job. I worked full-time all the way through college with a full-time college schedule too. You can do it.

User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

So far its looking like I'll be taking correspondence.

As far as wanting to get a jump start on the future, most of you must understand why. Most of my freinds that I hang out with are already in college, I really dont hang out with many people my own age. I may be 17, but I truly feel like an 18 or 19 year old, and thats the group that I hang out with. I'm eager to get out on my own and start working on my college, and also, do it with my friends. They are all freshmen in college, and if I graduated today, I'd only be a semester behind them.

So on one hand its that pull of wanting to fit more into their world, even though I already do. There's also a wanting to get away from the pressure that I live under at my house, and deal with pressure that I can be responsible for. I need to have a goal, I want to get out and try and build my life, make something of myself, make a difference. If I get out there I can. I can build a solid base for a career, I can begin to support myself, and most importantly, move towards having a family of my own in the future. by starting early, I can get through college sooner, which means I can get into, with any luck, aviation sooner, whcih means I get my seniority sooner, which by the end of the day means that for my age, I will have gone a very long way.

It's a good feeling knowing that you might be able to do, at such a young age, what most people dont get to do till their older. It makes you feel like youve got something to live and work for, and believe me, I need that.

OK, in 20 years I'll probably regret I said that.  Big grin

Aloha 737-200!!  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineGALILEE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1766 times:

Aloha: Can't you go on a work release kinda program where you go to school half the day and then work a part time job the other half. I had a lot of friends in a similar situation as you are, they had to many credits to warrent staying in school all day, so they did this and really seemed to enjoy it.


User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1764 times:

Actually I wanted to do that and asked the counselor about it but he says district policy is that you either go to school a full day (6 classes) or you dont go at all, which means graduating early. So unfortunately a work release wont work (pun not intended).


User currently offlineDe727ups From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 814 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (14 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1759 times:

If you do it at camp and it's not working out too well....maybe you could take a couple of weeks off from camp or leave camp early to make sure you get it done...sorta cram at the end.

I've got two good friends at U of I in Moscow....they love it. It's about a 90 minute drive from where I live.

Good luck....

User currently offlineAloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (14 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

That sounds like a good idea DE727UPS, I'll definitely consider that an option! Big grin

User currently offlineUsair737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (14 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1745 times:

think of it this way you take correspondence over the time you are at camp graduate early and then you one step closer to living in hawaii.take correspondence.if you dont you know you will regret it later.

User currently offlineIainhol From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (14 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

I graduated a year early and things that come to mind when reading your post.
When I did this you had to get your counseler, principal, and the school board to approve your application to graduate early. This process took a couple months and included parent teacher conferences.
I came up with the idea to graduate early the very first week of my sophmoore year. It was 2 years of very hard work, I had 8 classes while most of my mates had 5-6. I also had to attend 3 classes in summer school including a 0 period one (I was getting up at 6:15 during my summer!). I am not sure how it works at your school, but where I attended it was not just something that comes your way if you worked hard, it required planning.
The rewards are great. I graduated the youngest in my class, took a 6 month sebatical, and started University in the January. I was also excepted on an accelerated Bsc in Business Managemet course which only takes 2 years. This means most of my friends will have 2.5-3.5 years left at Uni when I graduate. By the time we retire the opportunity cost of this will probably be in the ballpark of $500,000.
I would recommend working hard in summer school over summer and gaining you high school degree. In college is a lot less demanding time wise then high school, so you will feel like are pretty much on school holidays (especially if you plan your schedule well, you can have 2 days off in the week, and not required to get up before 11:00 every day [like I did last term]). However saying that what DE727UPS seems a very sensible option.
My only other concern about what you wrote was this all seem to come on suddenly. Have you thought about college yet? Where you planning to go to Community College for a while? It could well be too late to apply for a 4 year. Just it would be a pity to work so hard to get out of high school and then have no where to go to college.

User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (14 years 4 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Do take the classes over summer. You'll be glad you did later on in life. I plan to study Il-Malti and get it at Ordinary Level Standard in summer. Meanwhile, I also intend to take a glider flying course in the Czech Republic. That, in my opinion, is a better spent summer than lying in the sand on the beach for three months, doing nothing and occasionally meeting a girl from ICQ only to find out that either she doesn't like me or I don't like her...

25 Gumah : Go to Camp. Sounds like a wonderful opportunity. School and work will be around for the rest of your life. You're young, enjoy life. Spend the summer
26 174thfwff : Aloha, I will post more about 10 pm est tonight, right now i am going snowboarding with my girlfriend... -Peace In- 174th
27 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : I lost the girl that I love today, it makes me wonder if I shoudl even try...getting into college would have put me closer to her, now I'm not so sur
28 Post contains images Aloha 737-200 : Im not so sure I want to go to camp anymore either, because she would have been there too....
29 Iainhol : Dude you switch and get glued to women far to quick, it was only the other week we where learning about all about Tang Tang's behaviour. If getting re
30 Aloha 737-200 : Thsi girl has been with me for 6 years, Tang Tang was around when me and Jessca lost contact. When JEssica came back Tang Tang was not a problem.
31 174thfwff : Aloha, If your not used to doing independent study work, it's very hard. You have to learn everything yourself, make time for the work, and you need t
32 Twa902fly : Aloha... where are you? get online we NEED to talk before yeah... twa902
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