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Castro May Be Dead  
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26338 posts, RR: 76
Posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Buzz around the office and a couple websites is that an announcement of Fidel Castro's death may be forthcoming. The Seattle PI has actually picked up the lead from Perez Hilton, of all people. It may be complete and utter  redflag  or it may hold some merit. Anyone else heard anything?


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3347 times:
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http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/24/ap4053398.html

Forbes is reporting it as rumor so far......interesting development, even though Raul has been running things for a while.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13005 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Probably not yet, although I (along with the millions of Cubans in the USA) would love for the far too long term of his life to end. If and when Fidel Castro finally dies, it will be a big thing and very much announced, although it may be delayed to the public so arrangements can be made.

User currently offlineWalter747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1440 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
Buzz around the office and a couple websites is that an announcement of Fidel Castro's death may be forthcoming. The Seattle PI has actually picked up the lead from Perez Hilton, of all people. It may be complete and utter redflag or it may hold some merit. Anyone else heard anything?

I heard it was a rumor thats all.



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

This just into A.net news department....

General Francisco Franco of Spain is still dead.



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7965 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Even if Castro isn't dead, the very fact he hasn't been seen in public for many months reminds me so much of what happened in the Soviet Union during the first half of the 1980's when several prominent Politburo members passed away after many months of rumors about a Politburo member being seriously ill.

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3160 times:

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 4):
This just into A.net news department....

General Francisco Franco of Spain is still dead.

This was the first thing that sprang into my mind when I heard this story as well...Chevy Chase, your presence is needed in the airliners.net non-av forum  Wink



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User currently offlineAC777LR From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 487 posts, RR: 41
Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Well I was just in Cuba not that long ago and I was told he was getting better. That he was expected to return to office by the years end.


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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13940 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

So how is Raul running the country? I have heard that he is less charismatic than his brother, but a lot more pragmatic and less centered on ideology.

Jan.


User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
Fidel Castro's death

We can only hope....  tombstone 



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User currently offlineBlackbird From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Even though Castro's dead, it doesn't matter -- his successor will take over and it will still be a commie country. And us Americans won't be able to tour there anytime soon.

Andrea Kent


User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2976 times:

Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
Buzz around the office and a couple websites is that an announcement of Fidel Castro's death may be forthcoming. The Seattle PI has actually picked up the lead from Perez Hilton, of all people. It may be complete and utter or it may hold some merit. Anyone else heard anything?

Wow! You're posting an thread based on an office rumor that comes at least third hand from the Seattle PI by way of Perez Hilton. I guess you were absent the day they covered reliability of evidence in law school.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24899 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2948 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Reply 11):
And us Americans won't be able to tour there anytime soon.

Thus allowing everyone else to have a nice peaceful holiday in Cuba  Wink



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User currently offlineTransIsland From Bahamas, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

Quoting Blackbird (Reply 10):
us Americans won't be able to tour there anytime soon.

You can go there any time you like - via a free country of your choice. We won't tell your government should you choose to fly UP from NAS to HAV and back...  Wink



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3292 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Well, my dad works as a cameraman here in Miami, and he's been on "red alert" concerning Castro's death for the past week and a half.

User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

My sister used to work at the Canadian Foreign Ministry, she has already written the press release for when he dies. Nice to see the Canadian government is so proactive eh?  Smile I think he's still alive and although I am not a commie I would like to see Cuba remain communist but less brutal after his demise.

YOWza



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2759 times:

Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
Buzz around the office and a couple websites is that an announcement of Fidel Castro's death may be forthcoming. The Seattle PI has actually picked up the lead from Perez Hilton, of all people.

You gotta be kidding me dude. Office rumor and the Seattle PI?

Let's hope you argue cases with more evidence.....for your clients' sake.  headache 



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User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8927 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2746 times:

There has been rumors his health deteriorated, but that has been more or less dismissed. Cuban officials said he is fine, and the U.S. gov't said they have "no reason" to suspect his health deteriorated. So who knows, one side no one can really believe and the other is guessing.

That said, his last public appearance was June 5th. His last article published was from Thursday, and supposedly the government is [still] 100% on Raul's hand.

[Edited 2007-08-25 19:32:32]


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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3588 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 15):
I think he's still alive and although I am not a commie I would like to see Cuba remain communist but less brutal after his demise.

Great! So the prople there can contiue to live in poverty and the women will continue to need to literally prostitute themselves to Canadian and European tourists just to feed their families.

Very thoughtful of you.
 Yeah sure


User currently offlineWestJetYQQ From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2987 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2691 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 12):

Thus allowing everyone else to have a nice peaceful holiday in Cuba

 yes  Gotta love being from Canada!  duck 



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2611 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 18):

Great! So the prople there can contiue to live in poverty and the women will continue to need to literally prostitute themselves to Canadian and European tourists just to feed their families.

I don't know a single Canadian or European who has bought such services from a Cuban woman (or man for that matter) I did in my earlier post say that I wanted less brutal treatment for the populace though. With that in mind it's clear that you have a bone to pick with communism in general... so I'll stop.

YOWza



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User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3588 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2573 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 20):
I don't know a single Canadian or European who has bought such services from a Cuban woman (or man for that matter) I did in my earlier post say that I wanted less brutal treatment for the populace though. With that in mind it's clear that you have a bone to pick with communism in general... so I'll stop.

Communism is nothing more than enslavement of the masses by a political elite. It is a failed and discredited political system. There are alot of members on A.net that could give you a real education on how communist governments actually work. Trying to dress it up with a qualifier of wanting communism in Cuba to continue with"less brutal treatment" is like asking for a rape to continue but with "smaller pe**s".

I find you wishing eternal poverty and hardship with no political freedom on an entire country's population disgusting.


User currently offlineAC777LR From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 487 posts, RR: 41
Reply 22, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 18):
Great! So the prople there can contiue to live in poverty and the women will continue to need to literally prostitute themselves to Canadian and European tourists just to feed their families.

Very thoughtful of you.

Have you ever been to Cuba? Thats not the case, where are you getting your news CNN?



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User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2467 times:

Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
announcement of Fidel Castro's death may be forthcoming

 redflag  Castro is one of the last



User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

I wonder though. Even if he dies he has out lasted how many US presidents?

With his death(if and when) may come change. I just hope the US government doesn't impose it's will on the Cuban people/country or any other Government body. let them decide where they go from his death and the US should aid them in whatever way possible if they want it.


25 Post contains links DLPMMM : I don't watch CNN, but you have apparently been brainwashed by the CBC and travel with your eyes closed (or perhaps you were too drunk to see the pov
26 Post contains images ConcordeBoy : ...egad, you say that as if it wouldn't be a more devastating experience! Or, more likely, a combo of the above.
27 YOWza : I love the analogy. Well one could make the point that capitalism is the enslavement of the masses by the social elite. A bit harsh don't you think?
28 SlamClick : One might also make the argument that under all political/economic/theological isms the masses enslave themselves by a combination of: Refusal to edu
29 AGM100 : No way Dude ,.. I just like... saw him,,, woa... -Spikoli
30 Faustino927 : Very well said. You speak like a Cuban, are you? Well I am and I live in Miami, FL. Here in Miami the word is that it's just a rumor. But I do not th
31 BlackProjects : The only rearly long lasting leeder with as much time in office as Castro is the Queen of United kingdom and Common Wealth but unlike Fiddel she dosen
32 Post contains images AC777LR : Ugh I think this user is due for a YYZ meet to tell me how he really feels, seriously why don't you get off your high horse and travel to Cuba. I am
33 Post contains images PPVRA : The Cuban delegation at the Pan-American games in Rio this summer left the day before the closing ceremony, for fears of more athletes running away to
34 PPVRA : According to wikipedia, who quotes the IMF and the CIA World Fact Book, the Dominican Republic's per capita is more than twice that of Cuba. Differen
35 AC777LR : Well ya that could be the case, I am not sure. My main tiff with that idiot up there, he said
36 Faustino927 : Obviously you are full of shit! You don't know what you are talking about. My family is miserable in Cuba, if it wasn't for us here in the USA who se
37 YOWza : I'm going in the first week of October, if I bump into him I'll say hi for you. YOWza
38 DLPMMM : Who are you calling an idiot! It really shows the strength of your position when your only retort is to call me a name. Just because you believe in t
39 Post contains images Superfly : This all a rumor and nothing more. Hope you're going to fly Cubana and write a trip report. I've been to Cuba and yes it's poor but I've seen place MU
40 DLPMMM : The prostitution part only came in when YOWza said that Cuba did not have people whoring to feed their families due to Castro's failed communist econ
41 Faustino927 : The I agree 100%. It's ALL or NOTHING!!!
42 Superfly : DLPMMM: We're you the user that was against sex outside of marriage in another thread? When Cuba becomes capitalist again, the prostitution will still
43 DLPMMM : Not me, as it is the only type of sex I have. (Hetero and never married). I am actually the one that suggested that the government quit recognizing a
44 YOWza : Well I also lived in LLW for a number of years and it's dead last on the list on wikipedia maybe commie Cuba is less evil than attempted democracy in
45 Post contains images Superfly : Ok cool. I just wanted to make sure you were not speaking from a prudish point of view.   Regardless of what government changes take place, nothing
46 Post contains links Lijnden : According to the website below is Fidel already dead for many years http://www.uncoveror.com/castro.htm
47 Superfly : Lijnden: That is a funny link but not entirely impossible. Many old men in Cuba has taken on the Fidel look. One of the 5 pilots on our IL-62 looked l
48 Post contains images DLPMMM : So because there are some people who live under a corrupt African government that are even worse off, then the people of Cuba should continue to be r
49 Asuflyer05 : Unfortunately Cuba in 2007 is a drastically different place than the Cuba our families left. IMHO the general population has become so used to living
50 LTU932 : They also say that he's much more "stricter" than Castro is, so my fear is that Raúl could keep an even worse stranglehold on Cubans than Fidel ever
51 Superfly : DLPMMM: The prostitution part is a non-issue. It will continue and it goes on here in America and the rest of the world for the same exact reasons. By
52 Post contains images N1120A : Half-cocked insult from a non-lawyer again? Ouch And apparently you paid no attention to my first post.
53 Redngold : So are Salvador Allende, Augusto Pinochet, and Juan Peron.
54 DLPMMM : Superfly: I agree that prostitution is not the main issue here My point was and still is that this original statement: is thoughtless and in my opnio
55 Superfly : I interpreted his statement differently. I read it as he'd rather see a more perfect/idealistic form of Communism. Communism has existed in name but
56 AndesSMF : Communism would only work in a society where everyone is perfect. And we will never get there. The big problem with communism, regardless of whether M
57 AC777LR : Yahn, your a big shot eh, I bet your just some old sole who travels on the internet and thats about it Your a real peace of work, glad to see you are
58 LTU932 : I thought it was a four man cockpit (Captain, First Officer, Flight Engineer, Navigator). Who's the fifth man in an IL6 cockpit?
59 Post contains images YOWza : The argument was the certain implementations of communism may be less harmful than failed democracy. The lesser of two evils. Because you are so blin
60 Post contains images DLPMMM : I'll take that bet. How much? US dollars please. So do you concur with YOWza in his wish for the continuation of communism in Cuba after Fidel's demi
61 DLPMMM : I will ignore your childish insults. More to the point is that the most sucessful communist regeimes have proven to be only marginally better than a t
62 YOWza : Withdrawn post. This thread is going nowhere.[Edited 2007-08-28 02:23:37]
63 ShyFlyer : Radio Operator, I'm assuming.
64 LTU932 : Can't be. I saw an in flight vid of a CU IL-62 flightcrew, and the captain was the one doing a radio check with ATC. It's on flightlevel350.com.
65 ShyFlyer : Was that flight entirely in Cuban airspace? Aeroflot used to use English speaking radio operators when outside of Russia, I was thinking Cubana did t
66 Post contains images L410Turbolet : I would have liked Germany to remain Nazi, only without those gas chambers... BTW, here's your for the most ignorant statement I've seen on a.net in
67 ME AVN FAN : I hope that Cuba after the end of Fidel will NOT fall back into the Battista style free-wheel "capitalism" but will develop into a kind of social mar
68 L410Turbolet : Where would the "new Battistas" come from? Two generations later? If anyone is in the best "start positions" in Cuba right now it is the 2nd tier com
69 ME AVN FAN : From Florida, simply the sons and grandsons of the "old Battistas" They will have their chance to succeed and to show that they can suceed in a post-
70 Post contains images Superfly : No one here has any right or reason to label anyone for being "ignoranant" for simply stating another side of the issue. If you want to go there, I'd
71 Superfly : According to the Aircraft data section of A.net; Flightcrew of five comprising two pilots, flight engineer, navigator and radio operator. I am sure s
72 MD11Engineer : We have the same problem in Germany, Poland and the Czech Republic: The grandchildren of the aristrocrat landowners, who were disposessed by the Sovi
73 Post contains images Confuscius : Who's the fifth man in an IL6 cockpit? A commissar? BTW, I don't see any report of fires and looting, umm celebration, in Little Havana. Castro is sti
74 ME AVN FAN : In many cases, and I speak about IL62 on civil duty, there is a 6th man, the loadmaster. Because the cargo-loading of the IL-62 includes more than a
75 Post contains images Superfly : Now that is a funny job title. Sad that would most likely happen happen when Fidel Castro officially dies. News of him getting ill last year saw a mi
76 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : you can find a good description of that job under www.theaviationzone.com/main/loadmaster.asp - loadmasters are planning the cargo-loads at airports
77 Post contains links ModernArt : The standard of living for the average Cuban will probably improve five- or ten-fold within a few short years. True. But Cuba is only marginally bett
78 Superfly : That hardly puts them on par with North Korea. I saw MUCH worse poverty in Haiti and even they're better off than North Korea perhaps marginally bett
79 PPVRA : Cuba has, at least, enjoyed some stability for the past 50 years or so. The same cannot be said about Haiti. They need to at least figure themselves
80 ME AVN FAN : What is important is the standard of living for the AVERAGE Cuban and NOT the average standard of living on Cuba. In other words, if social progress
81 PPVRA : They will regardless IMO, they only need to worry long-term, but people are dying of curiosity to go there. We'll se what happens.
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