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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29813 posts, RR: 58
Posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

You know there is something nice about being the underdog canidate that has already been written off. You can respond to questions in that manner.

The thread title is what John McCain told some Concord, NH after he was asked, "If elected, you'd be older than Ronald Reagan, making you the oldest president. Do you ever worry you might die in office or get Alzheimer's or some other disease that might affect your judgment?"

I don't see any of the main canidates being able to say what they wanted.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070904/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_students

[Edited 2007-09-05 05:42:14]


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

I'm not surprised that some high school kid would mouth-off to a presidental candidate. Goes to show the lack of respect the kid has for authority.


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User currently offlineAsuflyer05 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2373 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1):
I'm not surprised that some high school kid would mouth-off to a presidental candidate. Goes to show the lack of respect the kid has for authority.

Agreed. I read some of the quotes from the kids and was appaulled. If I talked to another human being like that in public my mother would have washed my mouth out with soap.

Quote:
"I came here looking to see a good leader," 16-year-old William Sleaster told McCain, earning himself boos from his classmates. "I don't."


User currently offlineLgbga From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1844 times:

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 2):

Quote:
"I came here looking to see a good leader," 16-year-old William Sleaster told McCain, earning himself boos from his classmates. "I don't."

I'm sure he has plenty of experience to judge a good leader.  Yeah sure Based on what? His video game and text messaging skills?


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

The Kid has the right to not like McCain however he needs to stop commenting on his age as a factor. McCain is a distinguished American hero, and he is one of the Republican Candidates that I really admire.

Quoting Lgbga (Reply 3):
His video game and text messaging skills?

LOL, probably, unless this kid is a History wiz, I doubt this kid would know anything about the qualities of a great leader. He should have rather asked insightful questions instead of directly attacking McCain for something he has no control over.



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User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7323 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1819 times:
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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6101 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Quoting Asuflyer05 (Reply 2):
Quote:
"I came here looking to see a good leader," 16-year-old William Sleaster told McCain, earning himself boos from his classmates. "I don't."

At first I thought that quote from the aticle was cut off. I guessed wrong. That second quote just leaves you hanging.

"I don't."

I don't what? I don't see a good leader? I don't want to be here? I don't think that girl sitting across from me likes me?

What! What is it?



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User currently offlineBablackpilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

I honestly understand where some of these kids are coming from. Even though he lacks the maturity of an adult to know when to be tactful in what you say to another person, I still understand where they are coming from.
Kids today are tired of the bs from all the previous leaders we've had. Clinton with his " I didn't do anything with her" lying self (yes I'm was a Bill Clinton supporter, not Hilary) and Bush with his, "Saddam tried to kill my dad so I went after him." crap. Kids today are more up on environmental issues and social issue then we as adults are. We as adults are more up on the financial side of things and what the market is going to do for us and the value of our dollar. Kids are more worried about there friends, peace, happiness. Yes, it might be a fantasy that they are living in, but maybe it isn't.
Let's take a look at it, besides McCain being a "war hero" what else has he done?
McCain is getting old and with a 4 year term that he would have to serve and all the crap that Bush has done and the work that McCain would have to do to clean it up, do you really think he would even have the energy let alone the mental capacity to devote to it? I'm not saying the guy has mental issues already but look at it as if it was your grandfather. After awhile, would you want him driving a car that old, knowing that he drives 45 in a 65 zone, just because he used to do it when he was younger (40+ years ago)
Times have changed and kids today are looking at things a lot more then sensibly. Why do we have an issue with gay marriage? Why is the environment so screwed up? Why is the blame pushed off on everyone else and no one wants to grow a set of balls and say "I did it and I made a bad decision"
The kids were harsh but maybe that is what these so called leaders need instead of someone trying to kiss there ass so much so they can get a kick back.



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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13170 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

At least they were not afraid to ask some questions of a candidate like McCain many want asked by the mainstream media but they don't. For that I applaud them. McCain was also handled some of the questions in a flippant and arrogant way, although some humor is a good foil for such questions.
I do think the age for a President, especially if they are 70 years old or more, is a factor to be considered in the choice of a candidate. I do think some young men are very concerned about the possibility of a military draft with the demands for soldiers to serve in the GWOT, Iraq and who knows where else in the future. Most younger people have far less prejudice as to those who are gay/lesbian than most adults and want candidates to stop using the gay card. I also think a growing number of people, and not just young people, are concerned with the overall quality of candidates for political offices including for President. Far too often we look at personality, those with good sound bites and simplistic answers to complicated issues rather than someone who is less flashy and much more of a thinking person.


User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

Why did McCain even go their ! ,, he is right .. what a bunch of little jerks. Environment !! Gay Marriage .. go get job!
Let me guess , not a word about 911 ?

A 16 year old , any 16 year old should be honoured to meet Senator McCain. Not because he is running for president , just for his service and sacrifice. What a little jerk off ,

Quoting Lgbga (Reply 3):
I'm sure he has plenty of experience to judge a good leader. Based on what? His video game and text messaging skills?

:D If that ,, 16 year old ,,, WTF? sit down and STFU.



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User currently offlineBablackpilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

McCain's remark shows that he can't handle critizim, if he can't handle that, how can he handle our countries affairs and foreign policy.

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 9):
A 16 year old , any 16 year old should be honoured to meet Senator McCain. Not because he is running for president , just for his service and sacrifice

Kids don't give a damn about his service and sacrafice because it happened in the Vietnam Conflict. Now if it was there parents or grandparents, then maybe someone would care.
Now if it was the Gulf war or he was a 911 vet, then maybe he has a chance to do that war hero thing because those were wars in these kids lifetime.

As said earlier, these kids today are worried about gay marriage, the enviornment, college fees, foregin policy. Not how long he was held captive by the VC in '73



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User currently offlineAGM100 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 5407 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

I am not a McCain supporter but he deserves some credit as a senior member of the Senate and a Veteran. I have a problem with his campaign manager having him go into a situation like this. Its a no win situation for him, the kids are not going to be respectful , and I would guess his parents were probably coaching him on somewhere.

Quoting Bablackpilot (Reply 10):
Kids don't give a damn about his service and sacrifice because

.....They have no idea what service and sacrifice are. I raise kids , I volunteer at high school and junior high . Frankly most of the kids are in no position to ask anyone about anything. Sure their are some exceptions but most of them are just kids who want to have fun and thats about it .. not saying thats bad. But why a candidate would go in and take questions from them is amazing.



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User currently offlineSlider From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6912 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1592 times:

I don’t understand why everyone here is being so critical of the kid.

His tone may not have been as respectful as one would prefer and I don’t excuse that, but think about it—everyone seems to unilaterally bitch and moan about how apathetic kids are about the world around them, and how apathetic and unengaged young people in general are about politics.

So this kid asks a question—a legitimate one about age—and he gets nuked here for it? And he is offering his opinion about his perception of the lack of leadership and he is criticized as well? Hey newsflash for you---the MAJORITY of Americans share that kid’s opinion that the leadership is sorely lacking, all polls pan the Congress, the President, and our elected officials as inept or corrupt. This kid is absolutely on the freaking money, IMHO.

And McCain responds in a wholly inappropriate manner and he gets a free pass? Come on!

Looks like McCain is the juvenile here. Contrast that with the disarming humor that Reagan used against Mondale when asked the similar question in context and he answered “I promise not to use my opponent’s youth and inexperience against him.” It brought down the house, diffused any tension about his age because he so spontaneously and deftly handled it.

McCain retorts with an insult. Nice. Time to give up the ghost, John boy. Your campaign is dead.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9533 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

Quoting Slider (Reply 12):
So this kid asks a question—a legitimate one about age

OK, fair enough. But...

Quoting Bablackpilot (Reply 10):
McCain's remark shows that he can't handle critizim, if he can't handle that, how can he handle our countries affairs and foreign policy.

I don't know anything about the guy but it seems to me he handled it as well as anyone could have expected. What was he supposed to do? Say "Ah, you're right" and quit?


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 1):
Goes to show the lack of respect the kid has for authority.

Agreed. I was glad to read he was booed by his classmates.

Quoting Lgbga (Reply 3):
I'm sure he has plenty of experience to judge a good leader. Based on what? His video game and text messaging skills?

 rotfl 


User currently offlineBablackpilot From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 11):
.....They have no idea what service and sacrifice are. I raise kids , I volunteer at high school and junior high . Frankly most of the kids are in no position to ask anyone about anything. Sure their are some exceptions but most of them are just kids who want to have fun and thats about it .. not saying thats bad. But why a candidate would go in and take questions from them is amazing.

This statement and thought is the reason why kids today don't want to talk to adults about anything in there lives. There ideas are discounted as just non respectful and childish BS. Take a listen to these kids, kids today are say just as much as you were saying during the Vietnam days, the peace movement, or any generational landmark of the time.
Because they aren't saying it in a fashion for you to understand and accept is one thing totally different.
The candidates, past and present have done forums like this for 10+ years because KIDS DO HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY AND NEED TO BE LISTENED TO. These same kids who you say are in no position to ask anyone about anything will be in the position that these candidates needs when it comes time for reelection or better yet, those kids that are 17 and will be able to vote in this coming up election.
If you discount what the kids are say now, what makes you think they will want to listen to you later when you do have something of importance to say to them later.



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User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1153 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1418 times:

I watched the YouTube clip and don't have a problem with the question or with the answer. What's the big deal? The kid asked a valid question, although maybe not in a terribly tactful way. Age is an issue, McCain is 73 I think and being President takes a lot of energy and tends to age people fast. Excellent point by Slider in that Reagan was asked that very question in 1984 in the Presidential debate and he just sloughed it off with some humor which completely ended the issue. It had also been raised in 1980 when Reagan was 69.

As for McCain's response, he answered the kid's question honestly and seriously, and did his best to relate to the kid by talking a little about his kids and music. He ended it with a little sarcastic humor but I really do think he was kidding--McCain is pretty dry. I honestly think it is being taken the wrong way.

I like it whenever a candidate gets out of his comfort zone and has to deal with a completely different set of people/questions instead of the friendly audiences and planted questioners that we've come to expect. You get to really see how they react--how many votes did it win Bill Clinton on MTV in 1992?


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