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Venezuela To Limit Names For Children  
User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

So long, Hengelberth, Maolenin, Kerbert Krishnamerk, Githanjaly, Yornaichel, Nixon and Yurbiladyberth. The prolifically inventive world of Venezuelan baby names may be coming to an end.

If electoral officials here get their way, a bill introduced last week would prohibit Venezuelan parents from bestowing those names — and many, many others — on their children.

The measure would not be retroactive. But it would limit parents of newborns to a list of 100 names established by the government, with exemptions for Indians and foreigners, and it is already facing skepticism in the halls of the National Assembly.

“I need to know how they would define those 100 names,” said Jhonny Owee Milano Rodríguez, a congressman representing Cojedes State. “For example, why not 120? This seems arbitrary to me.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/05/wo...ez.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

47 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9519 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3002 times:

George won't be making that list.


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User currently offlineMiamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

Not only is the handwritting on the wall, but it is yelling at you.

Big Brother Hugo, the new reality show, but it isn't a game.


User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2983 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
George won't be making that list.

I wonder if Konstantin will make the list?  Wink  Wink


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Hugo, Mohammad, Fidel, Che, and Mao will be on the accepted list.

I agree that George will be crossed off the list.

Now, I want to see anyone come on here and tell me that Venezuela isn't a dictatorial state now.


User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

I believe most countries have legislations limiting the choice of given names for babies. I knew Brazil was an exception and that people hell-bent on sticking idiotic labels on there children flocked to Brazil to be able to do it, but Venezuela is a surprise.

I don't like Chávez, but I see no reason to bash him for this particular move.

I have a Brazilian friend called Desimar. Desimar = Desidério + Maria, his parents' names.

Desimar claims (and I have no reason not to believe him) that a friend of his was given the name Uno Dos Três do match his last name da Silva Quatro.

That's Uno Dos Três da Silva Quatro.

I can't be bothered to find a source, but if I recall correctly, an Italian couple wanting to name their newborn boy and girl Sony and Lufthansa respectively, went to Brazil and did just that.

Stupid parents.  grumpy 


User currently offlineL410Turbolet From Czech Republic, joined May 2004, 5743 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
But it would limit parents of newborns to a list of 100 names established by the government

1. Hugo
2. Fidel
3. Mahmoud
4. Kim
5. Evo
6. Vladimir

...


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
George will be crossed off the list.

but Jorge Arbusto possibly will still be possible ?  Silly
-


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):
but Jorge Arbusto possibly will still be possible ?

Excellent translation!  rotfl 

But guess what, Ecuador has them beat!!

http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/dowbrig...1/09/the-kingdom-of-strange-names/


User currently offlineJCS17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2857 times:

I know that in Finland the government must approve the given name of a baby. However, they are pretty lenient and aren't limited to 100 names.


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3070 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

How bizarre!

Any time the subject of naming children comes up, I'm reminded of four sisters with whom I attended high school:
Tonjaleria
Estralida
Malaria (Yes, that's how she spelled her name, although she pronounced the second "a" as a hard "e".)
Toy (Yes, that was her legal name and not a nickname.)

Although all four of them were perfectly nice young ladies, I can't help but think that their individuality might have been somehow diminished if their parents had been forced to give them more mainstream names selected from a pre-approved list.



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User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 3):
Konstantin

Haha

as much as I like the great Hugo , I think this is a pretty stupid law ... they have more important things to do !


But as I got a 90 days ban for discussing about this topics , I'll avoid all this topics ...


 Wink

Konstantin


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 8):
guess what

-
I am absolutely in favour of full freedom to choose first names, even when sometimes people go into the absurd. But regulation by the authorities makes things unnecessarily boring. We for a while hat an Italian working with us whose first-name was Yuri, as he was born right when Yuri Gagarin was the first cosmonaut in space. I find such things nice.
-


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 12):
Yuri,

That is not a bad name, IMHO.

But did you read my link about the province of Manabi in Ecuador?

That is one for the books.

- We suppose these names seem less weird in a province where one of the biggest cities is Jipijapa (pronounced "Hippy-Hoppa") and smaller towns have names like Tripa de Pollo (Chicken Tripe), Dos Culos (Two Assholes) and Caga Fuego (Shits Fire). One town has as its official name a slang term which translates loosely to "Horny Town".

Here are better examples for your pleasure: (in Spanish)

"La costumbre de imponer peculiares nombres no sólo afecta a los habitantes, sino también a los poblados, por lo que existen zonas llamadas Cagafuego, Dos Culos, Moja Huevo, Estero Maricón, El Pueblo Arrecho o El Placer del Culo, entre otros que figuran en los libros del Consejo Provincial."

(Town names, in order, Shits fire, two assholes, wets egg - note that in Spanish eggs is also slang for testicles - , gay boardwalk, horny town, pleasure of the ass)

And a couple more names:

En el Registro Civil de Portoviejo reposan actas con nombres como Normandía, Espíritu Santo, Cristóbal Colón, Aquiles Machuca, Tissot, Clavelo, Semen, Funcionario Severo, Espléndida, Vespertín, Carpulina, Condorazo, Ruthalia, Wover, Rosula y Ediciocleciana.

Además, Blanca Nieves (Snow White), Voltaire, Edilia, Glay, Emigdi, Ilisión, Cruzcaya, Cevisne, Quinidio, Neuresdin, Newton, Ringo y Afrodita, que se pueden encontrar en poblados con nombres no menos peculiares.


http://www.ecuaworld.com/ecuablog/index.php?itemid=59


User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2753 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):

All modern names have etymologies many of us aren't aware of. Michael means "Who is like God?" (it's a question!), Alex means "defender of the people", Steven means "crown", Philip means "lover of horses", Abdullah is "slave of God", etc., etc....

Among popular names that I dislike due to their meaning, "Dolores" takes the cake.  Smile

I would never try to be funny when naming my child. People might come to like or even take pride in an unusual name in adult life, but adolescence must be sheer hell for them.  Sad


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2717 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
So long, Hengelberth, Maolenin, Kerbert Krishnamerk, Githanjaly, Yornaichel, Nixon and Yurbiladyberth. The prolifically inventive world of Venezuelan baby names may be coming to an end.

If electoral officials here get their way, a bill introduced last week would prohibit Venezuelan parents from bestowing those names — and many, many others — on their children.

The amount of names sounds a bit arbitrary, but the idea itself, if it's well elaborated, doesn't sound that bad. At least it will keep parents from naming their kids "Superman" or something.

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
existen zonas llamadas Cagafuego, Dos Culos, Moja Huevo, Estero Maricón, El Pueblo Arrecho o El Placer del Culo

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Dude, that's so priceless! I wonder what those people had for lunch when they decided to give their respective towns such names.


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
"La costumbre de imponer peculiares nombres no sólo afecta a los habitantes, sino también a los poblados, por lo que existen zonas llamadas Cagafuego, Dos Culos, Moja Huevo, Estero Maricón, El Pueblo Arrecho o El Placer del Culo, entre otros que figuran en los libros del Consejo Provincial."

Hahaha now I understand why they limit it !

LMAO "moja huevo" "el placer der culo" - who could name a city El placer del culo !!??

 laughing   laughing   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


Konstantin


User currently offlineBHXFAOTIPYYC From Portugal, joined Jun 2005, 1644 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Actually I don't think these restrictions are as uncommon as you think. Portuguese can't just name their kids anything, there is a list, although as I know an Osvaldo and a Vladimiro, I think it's pretty long.


Breakfast in BHX, lunch in FAO, dinner in TIP, baggage in YYC.
User currently offlinePPVRA From Brazil, joined Nov 2004, 8978 posts, RR: 39
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2653 times:

Quoting Toast (Reply 5):

Desimar claims (and I have no reason not to believe him) that a friend of his was given the name Uno Dos Três do match his last name da Silva Quatro.

That's Uno Dos Três da Silva Quatro.

I htought it was "Oliveira" Quatro. . what I have heard about this is that it came out in a newspaper article poking fun at some of the weirdest names in the country.

Quoting L410Turbolet (Reply 6):
1. Hugo
2. Fidel
3. Mahmoud
4. Kim
5. Evo
6. Vladimir



Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 7):

but Jorge Arbusto possibly will still be possible ?



Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):

"La costumbre de imponer peculiares nombres no sólo afecta a los habitantes, sino también a los poblados, por lo que existen zonas llamadas Cagafuego, Dos Culos, Moja Huevo, Estero Maricón, El Pueblo Arrecho o El Placer del Culo, entre otros que figuran en los libros del Consejo Provincial."

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 



"If goods do not cross borders, soldiers will" - Frederic Bastiat
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2650 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 1):
George won't be making that list.

Hmm....guess George Foreman better not have any kids down there then.  wink 


User currently offlineLHStarAlliance From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2645 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 13):
El Pueblo Arrecho

Thats great !  Smile



filler


filler


filler



Konstantin


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

Confession time...

Part of my family comes from Manabi...

Some bear 'interesting' names...

My aunt was called Rockela Filerma Loor
And a cousin is named Geoconda Cayetana

And my aunt had kids with these names:

Nixon
Tula
Kitty
Power
Dick Gene

[Edited 2007-09-06 00:46:42]

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2600 times:

Quoting Toast (Reply 5):

I don't like Chávez, but I see no reason to bash him for this particular move.

To each his own. It's just idiocy. I'm surprised that he didn't command every first born male be named Hugo.

Quoting LHStarAlliance (Reply 11):
as much as I like the great Hugo

Oh Jeez, here we go, another wide-eyed Western European who thinks a dictator is great.


User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2596 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 22):
another wide-eyed Western European who thinks a dictator is great

"Another" one? How many pro-dictatorship Europeans do you know?  Confused


User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2585 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 15):

The amount of names sounds a bit arbitrary, but the idea itself, if it's well elaborated, doesn't sound that bad. At least it will keep parents from naming their kids "Superman" or something.

How many people name their children "Superman" or similar names? Besides, that's a silly argument anyway, since any one (in the United States, at least) can change their name if they want.

What about names that have been in a family for generations? I guess if that name doesn't make the list the tradition can't continue?


25 Post contains images ME AVN FAN : yes. I find those names a bit on the extreme side ! -
26 Aloha73G : My best friend (Dionisialynn) is Micronesian. They have their own "weird" names... Flyona (my friends sister) and her cousins: Useful, and his brothe
27 Post contains images Toast : Please tell us you're joking... I've heard about weird naming traditions in Micronesia and Palau, but these blow my mind! No me jodas....
28 LHStarAlliance : Haha very typical for Ecuador , I remember that many had names like Branson , Bryan , Wilson , Washington , etc . it always made me laugh ... Konstan
29 Post contains images Superfly : I am sure Dick won't pop up on that list either.
30 Nimish : Well - India does not - and I've not heard of this rule in a number of other countries! I would think such a law would be the exception rather than t
31 Doona : In Sweden there are restrictions on what one can name a baby, but there's not an "approved" list, and if something is "controversial" (as a name, not
32 NIKV69 : Hugo is such a nice guy tho. He is helping poor US citizens get affordable gas. Too bad his own people are in for a really bad ride. It's Castro all o
33 Aloha73G : I am not kidding. My aunt was a nurse for the State Department of Health and she met all of these people while on home visits for Hansen's Disease (L
34 Post contains images LTU932 : And much less Larry or Superfly.
35 KLM685 : I think this is going to far in Venezuela! 100 approved names is off the limits! Although I agree sometimes people make the most weird names sometimes
36 AndesSMF : I almost had forgotten about it! Add another name: Linder
37 AM744 : [quote=LHStarAlliance,reply=28]I remember that many had names like Branson , Bryan , Wilson , Washington , etc .quote] The idea is not that bad. You g
38 DeltaDC9 : I think you believe wrong. There are more than you realize apparantly.
39 Avianca : well I think its a really needed law... (also he should not limited to only 100 names...) well even in germany are restrictions for the names... and
40 LTU932 : Down here in Costa Rica, we could also use such a legislation as well. I mean, there are so many people with weird names out, and parents giving thei
41 Banco : Why? You might disapprove of a chosen name, hell - everyone might disapprove of a chosen name, but what business is it of the government to specify w
42 LTU932 : Because in the cases of Venezuela, Costa Rica, Ecuador, and other Latin American countries, it's getting out of control. Some things do need to be co
43 AndesSMF : It has been out of control for decades now, it is perhaps more publicized now. Interesting tidbit about the names, however. They tend to come from th
44 ME AVN FAN : As soon as he has obtained full and total control of names, marriages, travels, professional activities, THE party and the national companies for the
45 AM744 : Sure, I agree that different languages should be accounted for. I was thinking on a country with a single language, though admitedly that's not alway
46 KLM685 : Exactly... I once heard a kid called Mickey Mouse Hernandez etc... I was shocked really... Yes but that's because you all coexist in a respectable so
47 ME AVN FAN : if you seriously check up the countries of the world, few are really single language. France has a German speaking (French writing) minority in the A
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