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Apec Security Breached By Comedians  
User currently offlineWithaK From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 255 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

The biggest security operation in Australian history, the APEC summit in Sydney, has been breached by a couple of comedians. For all who aren't aware (which I assume is most people) a large section of Sydney has been made a security zone and a wall erected.

All they had to do to get 10m from the US presidents hotel was hire a couple of 4WD's and a limo and stick a Canadian flag on the front. All eleven in the fake convoy have been arrested. Why do I get the feeling that a few people who were involved with security will have sore ears tonight?

Link below:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...cess/2007/09/06/1188783379922.html

WithaK

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User currently offlineScottieprecord From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1363 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?

User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):

Huge part of Sydney has been shut off, including the opera house. Locals are getting inconvenienced for the whole period with transport cut off in parts, roads blocked etc.


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney??

Yes a 2.8 metre high security fence. Mainly protect GWB and Condi from anit-war demonstrators and whatever else they don't like about him

Heres another thread on APEC: Bush Visits Sydney For Apec (by LAXspotter Sep 4 2007 in Non Aviation)


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?



http://www.smh.com.au/specials/apec/index.html

in red is where the fence is...not sure how much of the other shaded areas are fenced off. police have been saying that tourists can't take pics of the fence due to national security, 10mins later the media have them all over their websites. restaurants near the intercontinental hotel are not allowed to have cutlery on tables because they think it could be used in terrorist attack.

[Edited 2007-09-06 11:30:29]  banghead 

[Edited 2007-09-06 11:31:54]


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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8467 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?

User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Quoting Scottieprecord (Reply 1):
LMAO! He's right that the security system worked, but WTF. Did they really build a wall sectioning off part of Sydney?? Like large of an area are we talkin here?

Well you do tend to get quite a bit of real estate with a 5 km long wall.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?

On the APEC thread, there is a view that maybe at least some police might have figured out they would come. Dressing up as Osama was fairly brave, but then these are the guys who invented Terry Wrist as a late passenger on a flight, together with his mate Al Kada. Downer seems hugely pleased that he was not caught in a stunt by them, wonder what he thought might happen - sorry, Downer seldom thinks, I will go and flagellate myself for that slip.

There is compensation for the drought, the horsey set want it for the equine flu, how about the poor bloody shopkeepers and taxi drivers suffering from all this madness, they really deserve something that has been imposed on them.


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

Sounds like something I did in high school. We grabbed my friend's dad's Mercedes 600S, complete with tinted windows, I dressed up as a sheik and my friend dressed up as a limo driver. He drove and I sat in the back and we went to a drive through to get beer. We had the beer guy load up the trunk with beer and I gave him a $20 tip. He never did ask for ID  Smile We had a party later

User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1502 times:

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
And security planning didn't see the chaser boys pulling a stunt like this how?

there's a reason they're security, intelligence isn't one of them...
 Cool



a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

The Chaser team charged and granted bail

ELEVEN crew from the ABC comedy show The Chaser have been charged and granted bail following their arrest in Sydney today over a fake motorcade.

Julian Morrow and Chas Licciardello, two of the on-screen stars of the satirical TV program The Chaser's War on Everything, were among 11 detained by police.

The fake motorcade had been staged as part of an APEC week stunt.


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...y/0,22049,22375638-5001028,00.html

I cant wait to see the episode on air  Big grin



#proudtobeabulldog
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 9):
I cant wait to see the episode on air

Any odds on them finding a way to score off Downer's remarks. No, don't blame you, not good to bet on certainties!

Only problem is the police have been confiscating still cameras with stills of THE FENCE. So have they let the Chaser Boys keep their film? They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

Endless possibilities. Just getting arrested was fantastic publicity. That and Kath and Kim with a sacking in the one week. Oh dear. And then the speech in Mandarin. Curse APEC.

Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1476 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

apparently the entire tape got to where it needed to get too, ABC, Sydney.

Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 9):
The Chaser team charged and granted bail

charge will be dropped by the time APEC is over...that, or the police face humiliation because the guys did nothing illegal, the road they travelled down doesn't become illegal to use until tomorrow.  Wink

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Endless possibilities. Just getting arrested was fantastic publicity. That and Kath and Kim with a sacking in the one week. Oh dear. And then the speech in Mandarin. Curse APEC.

fucking marvellous isn't it, Johnny who?

Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.

does anyone catch what Howard has to say anymore?  Wink



a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
They might have very little to run with although the Chaser lads would surely have had back-up plans. Cannot wait to see the results. Just the news stations seem to have a fair bit of footage they can use. If they were sensible, they would have had a couple of long lens cameras well outside the no-go area.

apparently the entire tape got to where it needed to get too, ABC, Sydney.

Super news!

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 11):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 10):
Did anyone catch what Howard said about the gas deal when he thought he was not on camera, sounded very like telling the Chinese that Aus gas is very cheap? This has been true, but should not be true.

does anyone catch what Howard has to say anymore?

No, but IF he said what I thought I heard, it would be DEATH. Remember the earlier Woodside contract basically has no escalation clause tying gas prices to oil prices, unlike most other contracts. Especially those contracts negotiated by the backward Indonesians, who have escalator clauses running hell west and crooked.

Doing it again, would be catastrophic. Woodside shareholders (the writer included) are not best pleased about the other one. Selling Pluto gas cheap would not be a good look. Yes, the field is called Pluto, but it is probably named for the God rather than the Disney dog, but then again if the price is bad, you begin to wonder.


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1463 times:

did you see the way Howard treated Hu in the signing at his office? quickly shook his hand for about 2 seconds then walked him out the door. god I hate that man, he's the most despicable leader this country has ever had. and to be having 3 way meetings without China is beyond any comprehension.

The look on dolly and rodent's face when Rudd spoke in Mandarin was priceless!

[Edited 2007-09-06 14:39:43]


a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 13):
The look on dolly and rodent's face when Rudd spoke in Mandarin was priceless!

Howard's face was straight out of Easter Island, did not notice Dolly - I guess that is Downer (I rather think of him in Moir's terms as a very shabby toy bear).


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/06/2026442.htm
Did you ever see a more relaxed or smiling bunch after their arrest?
Tut tut Kevin, looks like another ruler lacking a sense of humour. What do we do to deserve them?


"In a statement the program says they had not intended to enter the APEC restricted zone, and believed they were given permission to proceed by police.

The team says they were unaware they were actually in a restricted zone and turned around voluntarily when they thought they were about to enter the security area.

The program has reiterated that the entire stunt was intended as a joke.

But Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd has condemned the stunt.

Mr Rudd told Channel Nine that while satire has a role to play, the stunt was inappropriate.

"Given the heightened security environment around Sydney that's actually just not responsible," he said.

"I'm a fan of the Chaser's, I watch their stuff, they take the mickey out of me all the time, that's fine, but I think when you've got a major security event going on in Sydney right now, I think these guys have crossed the line.""


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13210 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security.
From what I have heard about this group of comics, they are very 'cheeky' and play on the high wire without a net. Sometimes you need that to keep sanity in society but there acts were stupid and could have led to a tragedy as they did distract police from their job. I have worked in NY City for many years and often have to deal with the hassles the President and top world leaders or someone like the Roman Catholic Pope creates when they visit.


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1395 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Sometimes you need that to keep sanity in society but there acts were stupid and could have led to a tragedy as they did distract police from their job.

Readers of the Sydney Morning Herald are currently voting:
Funny 86%

Not funny 14%
Ed added, 16,500+ votes so far. And the site does know if you try to vote twice.

They did not ask whether the stunt should have been undertaken. However, as has been remarked, the audience for the coming episode should be pretty high.

There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

[Edited 2007-09-06 17:19:54]

User currently offlineYfbflyer From Canada, joined Sep 2006, 299 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security

 redflag 
http://www.zug.com/pranks/super/index01.html
I think you can say that the super bowl was a high security event and these guys were not caught. Security is an human endeavor and because of that it's not infallible


User currently offlineQANTAS077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5870 posts, RR: 39
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1329 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

as I understand it that occurs today.



a true friend is someone who sees the pain in your eyes, while everyone else believes the smile on your face.
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

Quoting Yfbflyer (Reply 18):
Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 16):
Probably if someone tried such an act in the USA, they would have been nailed much earlier, probably at a first checkpoint and wouldn't be bailed out for a couple of weeks. Sounds like Australian/Sydney police didn't do their job as well as they should. Sadly too, this proves that anybody - including potential terrorists - can find weak points in any security

So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?
I think the whole assumption that cavalcades offer security is misguided at best, and bloody dangerous at worst.

Quoting QANTAS077 (Reply 19):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 17):
There seems to be some sort of argument as to when the road they were on is officially closed.

as I understand it that occurs today.

As best I can work out, this is/was correct.


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

Quoting Baroque (Reply 20):
So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?

Well, first off, a real motorcade with high priority assests is in constant radio contact with an exterorior security detachment with updates as to status of position and direction of travel. That exterior detachment should be in contact with any other security teams along the route to notify them of the approach of the high priority assests. If a motorcade were to show up at a security checkpoint without notification it should very much be immediately stopped.


That aside.

Funny prank.


User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1229 times:

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 21):
Quoting Baroque (Reply 20):
So a rumour goes around that someone is running a fake Bush cavalcade. The real Bush cavalcade comes to a check point and one security guy is suspicious. He motions to the cavalcade to stop. Do let us know what happens next?

Well, first off, a real motorcade with high priority assests is in constant radio contact with an exterorior security detachment with updates as to status of position and direction of travel. That exterior detachment should be in contact with any other security teams along the route to notify them of the approach of the high priority assests. If a motorcade were to show up at a security checkpoint without notification it should very much be immediately stopped.

It is probably impossible to find out, but given that the US have insisted on bringing their own weapons, I would not be surprised to find that the do not keep in radio contact with the local wallopers. I don't know, but it is a definite possibility.


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