SKYTEAM From France, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1 Posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 659 times:
Hello to all, Australia is a country isolated from the rest of the world. They seem that they never get engaged in any kind of warfare.
My question is does Australia have any weapons of mass destruction? I'm not familiar with Australia's Military and would like to get information about it.
Aviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 640 times:
No, we don't have any "weapons of mass destruction". Main reason being because we don't have an aggressive foreign policy which makes these weapons an almost necessity. In fact, the biggest threat to our "national security" is Indonesia, and our 2 countries do military exercises together, and we also train some of their troops.
The only place you will see any nuclear in Aussie is at the Lucas Heights nuclear reactor in Sydney. This is a research facility; i.e. not military or commercial use.
If you are really interested in learning about our military history the best sites are:
SKYTEAM From France, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 621 times:
Heya Aviatsiya, Thank You for giving me this information. I'm a big fan of your country and I am trying to learn about it and hopefully take a trip "Down Under" within the next 2 years.
ADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 614 times:
Skyteam,
Australia is a signatary to all UN documents called for global disarmament. We don't need or want WoMD and have constantly denied access to other countries who see Australia as a strategic place to put their weapons!
At the end of the next war when the nukes are finished ... we should remain relatively untouched (with the exception perhaps for the centre of Aus and SydsKnee).
PerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 582 times:
I think Austrailia (sic) has the perfect weapon to keep a foreign aggressors away-they're Goodbye and ADG. One inkling that those two are around, and no other country will want anything to do with the place. It ceases to have any value.
And this from an a.net member who has himself on his own "Respected by" list. What a sorry bit of humanity!
But although the abovementioned no doubt irk some people our real weapon of mass destruction is that Steve Whatsis ,"The Crocodile Man".
hehehe, man is he insidious!!
I'm doing my best to warn everyone but even the 7yo grandson of a very good friend of ours in Florida has been completely brainwashed by him. So all I can do is apologise, we didn't know what we were creating when we unleashed him on a poor unsuspecting world!
And as for: They seem that they never get engaged in any kind of warfare.
Well, other than the Boer War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Malaya, Vietnam, Bouganville, (we passed on the Falklands), the Gulf, (gave the Balkans a miss too), East Timor and Afghanistan (both sides), yeah we don't get involved in military actions match.
Hoffa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 572 times:
Think Gallipoli effectively ended any kind of progressive foreign policy from the Australians. Just keep appeasing the Indons and Chinese and y'all will be fine....
DeanBNE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 568 times:
Sorry Hoffa but Australians are secure enough to not feel the need to impose undue will upon other nations and aren't we neurotic to the point where we feel the need to have enough warheads to destroy the earth many times over.
To be honest I fear that it will be US interference that begins the last world war, not the Chinese.
Ever read the book "On the Beach"? Try it, you might learn something.
[America is]the king of nothing and the queen of rage" - Annie Lennox
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 564 times:
Sorry Hoffa but Australians are secure enough to not feel the need to impose undue will upon other nations and aren't we neurotic to the point where we feel the need to have enough warheads to destroy the earth many times over.
To be honest I fear that it will be US interference that begins the last world war, not the Chinese.
Sorry, DeanBNE, but Austrialia position in the world and the U.S.'s position in the world has nothing to do with how "secure" each feels. It has to do, quite frankly with power. The U.S. has economic, political and military power that Australia doesn't. That's not a put-down of Australia, but it's just a fact.
The U.S. is the strongest economic, political and military power on the earth. It has been since the end of the Second World War. And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world. We don't force other nations to become free, democratic nations. That kind of imposition is done by nations like China and the former Soviet Union.
And guess what? World War II started 2 years before the U.S. entered into the conflict, Dean, so the U.S. didn't start that conflict. And the Chinese didn't start it either. It was started for 2 reasons: 1. The intolerable conditions that the Allies put on Germany after the end of WWI and the Versailles Treaty, and 2. The meglomania of Hitler, Mussolini and the leaders of Japan, in their quest for world empires. That's where the war started, not on our shores, my friend.
And if you're quoting Annie Lennox to try to deamonize the U.S., boy, are you stretching things a bit. Not exactly a world political giant, is she?
G-KIRAN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2000, 736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 557 times:
PerthGloryfan:Well, other than the Boer War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Malaya, Vietnam, Bouganville, (we passed on the Falklands), the Gulf, (gave the Balkans a miss too), East Timor and Afghanistan (both sides), yeah we don't get involved in military actions match.
In most of these apart from Bouganville and East Timor,Australia played a very minor role.In the Gulf Australia sent a total of 6 ships and some 1800 troops who did not see action during Desert Storm itself.Boer war and the 2 world wars saw Australian contributions but once again there were minor.As for Afghanistan everyone knows that so far only the British have launced attacks against the Taliban,eg Tomahawks.But of countries special forces may already be on the ground.
PerthGloryFan From Australia, joined Oct 2000, 751 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 554 times:
In most of these apart from Bouganville and East Timor,Australia played a very minor role
Hmm, that's interesting I wonder why there's thousands of names listed on the Australian War Memorial in Canberra?? And there's a coupla thousand ex WWII POWs who might not agree with you as well.
Even MacArthur though Australia was a pretty important aircraft carrier through to 1945.
Any country who lost more than one life in a war played more than a minor role. Something perhaps you should reflect on.
Any way glad you took the bait, just remember to lock your doors and windows tonight, and do NOT turn on your TV or the Crocodile Man might get you!!!
Ryanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3219 posts, RR: 17 Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 552 times:
According to 'JANE's' Military Publications Australia was secretly involved in a project in the early 1990's to develop a nuclear boomerang with intercontinental range. Tests carried out in 1995 in the Northern Territory have alledgedly confirmed this weapon to be Australia's best form of nuclear deterrent.
A 1970's project to develop an atomic Woomera is also alleged to have been undertaken.....
I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
G-KIRAN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2000, 736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 539 times:
PerthGloryfan:Yeah sure you took part,but did you form a large part of the troops and military hardware?Try saying to the Americans or South Vietnamese that you played a major part in Vietnam.Try telling them again that you played a major role in korea.Try telling the Americans,British,Saudis,Egyptians and French that you played a major part in Desert storm.Once again you sent men in and you fought but did you play a major and vital role which my post asked about?
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 539 times:
Alpha1,
Your vulgar arrogance and ignorance is now legendary.
ROTFL. First of all, why don't you tell us what you're talking about MX5_boy? What are you referring to?
Secondly, I am rarely, if ever "vulgar" on here, with the exception of an occasional "schidt" that I might say every now and then.
As for arrogance and ignorance, well, I happen to see the arrogance and ignorance in people like ADG and Goodbye and the like. I guess that's in the eyes of the beholder.
G-KIRAN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2000, 736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 536 times:
PerthGloryFan:Somethings I forgot.At its height the Australian contingent in Vietnam numbered around 8,600,for comparision Thailands was 20,000,South Korea was 48,000 and the Phillipines was 12,000.The US contingent was over 500,000.
As for the Crocodile man or crocodile dundee-I am very sure that the British bulldog,Britsh,English and Scottish Lions and the Welsh dragon will protect me!
DeanBNE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 535 times:
First off Alpha, let me say that my postings are not an attack on Americans but rather aspects of the American political system.
And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world
No? Hmmm ... the dropping of two A-bombs on Japan at a time when it was known the second world war was ending anyway comes to mind for some reason.
We don't force other nations to become free, democratic nations
This is true but the US actively encourages that kind of transition creating new, strained tensions between super-powers.
Alpha please answer me this: why is it necessary for the US to mave SO MANY nuclear warheads AND also wanting to implement the Star(t) Wars program? Is it paranoia ... what? It doesn't make sense.
Hoffa: Just keep appeasing the Indons and Chinese and y'all will be fine....
Look up "diplomacy" some time. The US needs support from other western nations at the moment and no other nation is supporting the US more than Australia...mate!
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 532 times:
"And the U.S. didn't "impose" such power on the world."
No? Hmmm ... the dropping of two A-bombs on Japan at a time when it was known the second world war was ending anyway comes to mind for some reason.
No, hmm. The war was not ending. If you knew your history at all, you'd know that the U.S. and the Allies-Australia included-was ready to launch an invasion of Japan on Nov 1, 1945, an invasion that would have taken AT LEAST a year, if not longer, and cost the lives of millions-Japanese, Americans and Australians, included-far more than who died in the atomic bombings. You want to lay blame for Hiroshima and Nagisaki, blame the Japanese government, who refused to surrender, not the U.S. That wasn't imposing power, my friend. It was war.
Unfortunately, Dean, I have to get to work, I'll go over the rest of your post later. Have a good day.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 12710 posts, RR: 80 Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 528 times:
The Aussie armed forces are small, (unsurprising as the country has a small population), but are highly professional.
Their SAS is in Afghanistan, unsurprising as the British and Aussie SAS have close links.
In both world wars they were highly rated by the enemy, same applies to Vietnam. There was little they could do there about the wrong-headed approach to that conflict.
Don't knock the 'supporting roles' either, if nothing else it allowed the major combatants to allocate more of their resourses. (During the Falklands war, the New Zealand Navy sent a frigate to help out the Royal Navy who were then operating patrols off the Persian Gulf, allowing an extra RN ship to join the fray in the South Atlantic).
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