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CNN - So Little News In So Much Time  
User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2081 posts, RR: 4
Posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1966 times:

When travelling CNN is often the only English speaking television station available in hotels. I can't believe how pathetic CNN is. If I were to write a slogan for them (and don't they love their slogans) it would be "So little news in so much time." Even Australia's Channel 10 news seems to contain more actual news than CNN. So far as I can tell CNN has about 4 or 5 main stories in a day and just subjects them to endless "analysis" which is no better than personal opinions. Worse is that news is often not very important to the majority of people in the world.

Here's a selection that I caught on our trip to Japan - and this is over a few days too:

* Microwave popcorn can cause health problems
* Some actor is running for US President
* Oprah's influence on politics
* US senator busted in a toilet may change plea.
* Steve Fossett is missing
* Blah, blah, blah

At least they did show an item about the Chaser's APEC stunt but neglected to mention the fact that the Chaser team did a CNN spoof called CNNNN which was much more interesting than the real thing.

Now maybe you are interested in some of those things because you are American (or in Steve Fossett's case because you are an aviation nut) but why the need for endless rehashing and the injection of personal opinion rather than objectivity by journalists? State what you know, then get on to the next item.

While CNN was discussing microwave popcorn the Japanese news was following live feeds on a typhoon blowing over Tokyo. Both flights and trains were cancelled. That kind of news would have been useful for a traveller in Japan or intending to visit. What's the point of calling it CNNj if there is no J component but insurance adverts?

I've never been to the US, but is CNN a reflection of the American style news? If so, it only breeds ignorance about the rest of the world.


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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

I gave up on all the TV news stations when they started covering Anna Nicole. I realized at that point our news was beyond help. If I wanted to see that crap I would get my news from E.

User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1947 times:

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
but why the need for endless rehashing and the injection of personal opinion rather than objectivity by journalists?

Because it is easier to glom onto one story and beat it for all its worth then to actually send people out to report on many different stories. The news media has gotten lazy in the last few years.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1929 times:

Anderson Cooper has become a blathering whiner since Katrina. He used to get into reporting and investigating real news, but now he spends a shitload of hours every night pretending he's doing a lame-assed Save the Children infomercial.



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1929 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 1):
I gave up on all the TV news stations when they started covering Anna Nicole. I realized at that point our news was beyond help. If I wanted to see that crap I would get my news from E.

We're in the same boat.... I quit taking CNN seriously when they put a friggin' celebrity gossip hour, in prime time, on their Headline News channel.  mad 


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1926 times:

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 4):
We're in the same boat.... I quit taking CNN seriously when they put a friggin' celebrity gossip hour, in prime time, on their Headline News channel

half the time on CNN, anderson is flrting with Erica Hill, WTF?



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User currently offlineSW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6324 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1922 times:

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
* Microwave popcorn can cause health problems

That's a shocker...

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 3):
Anderson Cooper has become a blathering whiner since Katrina. He used to get into reporting and investigating real news, but now he spends a shitload of hours every night pretending he's doing a lame-assed Save the Children infomercial.

Yeah, I met him in 2004 and he was one of the brightest, nicest and straight headed guys I ever met. And he also did some damn good newscasting. But in recent days, he has gone downhill...I never really watch his show anymore.

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
* Oprah's influence on politics

She has an impact on one persons fans - Obama's. Everyone else could really give a damn. Oprah has always annoyed the hell out of me, as has Obama, so the combo is...well...it makes me want to vote for him even less. Woooo, Oprahhhhhh.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1919 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 5):
half the time on CNN, anderson is flrting with Erica Hill, WTF?

I've noticed that, too. I've always thought of him as a closeted gay man. Maybe he's doing it to confuse the viewers.


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1915 times:

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 7):
I've noticed that, too. I've always thought of him as a closeted gay man. Maybe he's doing it to confuse the viewers

he has me confused too, damn it he has to be straight out, I hate to see him flirt with Erica, its just not right for a gay dude to do that.



"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlinePiercey From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 2233 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1908 times:

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
* Some actor is running for US President

If you're talking about Fred Thompson, he is a former US Senator, so it's not like he's completely green. Also, he does have a shot in hell, and I'd rather hear this then something on Paris Hilton again....

piercey in CLE  Sad



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 5 days ago) and read 1878 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 5):
half the time on CNN, anderson is flrting with Erica Hill, WTF?

Nah, he doesn't have shit on Glenn Beck, when it comes to that. And you couldn't convince me for one second that this dude wasn't on some manner of chemical substance at the time:


...ya gotta love Erica's facial expression!


Though speaking of love, I'm sure N1120a wouldn't love her pronunciation of "Ahmadinejad". Still better than Hannity's though-- at least she doesn't imagine letters in there

[Edited 2007-09-11 06:26:47]

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

For being a recovering addict, the new sober and clean Glenn Beck, who's a Mormon, is the biggest son of a bitching sarcastic jerk I've ever seen on TV. Most guys get civil and calm once they sober up. He getting meaner and nastier every day. I can't stand to watch and listen to him anymore. WTF happened?



User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 811 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1805 times:

And I thought BBC news was bad.....

User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

There is only one remedy - ditch your TV. I haven't watched TV in over 5 years now, 8 if you don't count the post-9/11 period.

Best decision in my life. Amazing what a mind-numbing and time-wasting drug it is.


User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2081 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

Quoting Toast (Reply 13):
There is only one remedy - ditch your TV. I haven't watched TV in over 5 years now, 8 if you don't count the post-9/11 period.

Best decision in my life. Amazing what a mind-numbing and time-wasting drug it is.

And a.net (and hence my computer) isn't an even greater time-wasting drug?  Smile

Fortunately we haven't got CNN at home and I have no desire to get any Pay-TV service. Not while there's ABC with Doctor Who and SBS with quirky stuff. I only have to put up with CNN while travelling and we don't spend much time in the hotel room watching tv!



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):

You produce a 24 hour news channel for a day.

Then get back to us.



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User currently offlineAllrite From Australia, joined Aug 2007, 2081 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1754 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 15):
You produce a 24 hour news channel for a day.

Then get back to us.

My point is that, based upon what I've seen of CNN, you could repeat the weekly half hour news bulletin on a free to air Australian network (and probably many other countries') throughout a day and you would probably still show as much real news as CNN. Okay, maybe have an additional 15 minute sports round-up now and then.  Smile

It scares me that people use CNN as a news resource because, again based upon what I've seen, the analysis and interpretation is pitiful. Ideally, of course, nobody would rely on a single news source and thankfully the internet allows us to view many different news sources.

It's a pity that the English speaking networks of the world don't get together to produce an international news channel, each dealing with their own region. It would be interesting to watch, say, some Indian news interspersed with Canadian, New Zealand, etc. Oh, and in my ideal news world no newsreader would ask "what's the feeling you are getting from..." and no reporter would use the term "sense".  Smile

I forgot to link to the Chaser's CNNNN parody in my original post.



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2752 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Screw those national news channels, Good Day Oregon (Local News) actually shows news.  Wink


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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8153 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1692 times:

Quoting Allrite (Thread starter):
While CNN was discussing microwave popcorn the Japanese news was following live feeds on a typhoon blowing over Tokyo. Both flights and trains were cancelled. That kind of news would have been useful for a traveller in Japan or intending to visit. What's the point of calling it CNNj if there is no J component but insurance adverts?

It's too bad you were spending all your time watching CNN instead of exploring the wonderment this country has to offer.

That said CNNj is a one-off local production for the American expat-heavy Japanese market. There is more US content than CNN International normally broadcasts. CNN International in its uninterrupted format is not at all bad. It's too bad those of us here can't get the same CNN as the rest of Asia.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4891 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

CNN is a disaster. It has been in a bad state for many, many years. Mercifully in recent years most big hotel chains etc have starting acquiring BBC. Which too is slipping but is still way better than CNN. Do not ever make the mistake of watching CNN for more than ten minutes at a time, you will wan to pop yourself.

Their analysis is often laughable. I recall when the US conducted strikes on targets in Sudan the anchor doing the coverage on 4 separate occasion in under 20 minutes took the time to remind the viewers at home not to confuse Sudan the country with Saddam the person - simply mind-blowing!

Here's a little video for you. From the stupid to the creepy to the WTF?







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[Edited 2007-09-11 17:31:33]


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User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Quoting YOWza (Reply 19):

#1:  crazy   Yeah sure  laughing 
#2:  expressionless   eyebrow   ashamed 
#3:  confused   boggled   hypnotized 


User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Quoting Allrite (Reply 16):
My point is that, based upon what I've seen of CNN, you could repeat the weekly half hour news bulletin on a free to air Australian network (and probably many other countries') throughout a day and you would probably still show as much real news as CNN

And as I said ... you produce for 24 hours straight and get back to us.

Continuous news programming is a potpourri of coverage ... hit, pick, choose, miss, and nail it. The average viewer is an "on the go viewer" that probably watches for up to 9 minutes at a time, uninterrupted. When it's continuously played in a venue, the viewer cues in for probably 4 or 5 minutes per half hour of watching ... on average.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11658 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 17):
Screw those national news channels, Good Day Oregon (Local News) actually shows news.

Ugh.... Don't get me started on Fox 12 Oregon! Watching the first 15 minutes of that broadcast makes me wonder why I live in a God-forsaken crime ridden city like Portland! Their newscasters aren't even good looking! Before Channel 12 was bought by FOX, they had news with Kim Singer and Gary Hill. For a while, they had Lars Larson, too. Back then, they reported news: what the legislature is doing, what the city council is doing, school budgets.... State-wide events. Now, it is all about car crashes, fires, robberies and shootings. Any of those four things anywhere in the northern Willamette Valley. I will credit Good Day Oregon with traffic and weather often. Although Tony Martinez does not seem to be flying about much. Just sitting in Air 12 at HIO reporting on slow traffic.

I do my best to not watch ANY national news channel or any local news channel. I do, on occasion, watch KGW (PDX) or Northwest Cable News. If I want any local news, I read the Oregonian (newspaper) and, if I want more information, I turn to the net. National news? The net. But, even then, it can be difficult to find stories.



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User currently offlineSTLGph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9371 posts, RR: 26
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1652 times:

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 22):
I will credit Good Day Oregon with traffic and weather often.

That's a morning show for you. A good morning show should be 40% weather, 15-20% traffic.

Quoting Seb146 (Reply 22):
Now, it is all about car crashes, fires, robberies and shootings

It's the season.

City council and legislatures are pretty much only in season October - April. School boards only get good December & January and then again in May and June ... and there's the rare August teacher strikes.



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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11658 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Quoting STLGph (Reply 23):
It's the season.

Well, the crime and drug bust season lasts from June to May around here. They don't get to school budgets and the legislature until after the first or sometimes the second set of commercials. I have not watched in a while, so I don't know how they are doing in recent months.

But, I agree with you about morning shows: Traffic and weather as much as possible!



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25 AsstChiefMark : I'm past the point of being sick and tired of "Hard On...Apply Directly to the Foreskin" and Viagra and Geico ads during the five minute commercial br
26 Seb146 : And there is more going on than the latest style sported by Linsey, Paris, Britney, or whoever. What is going on in Canada, England, Germany, China..
27 Coleplane : Interesting comment. Many would be alarmed at just how biased CNN is if they'd bother to compare. If all I watched was CNN, I'd hate anything conserv
28 Post contains images AsstChiefMark : Did anyone ever tell you that you sound a little like...
29 Fumanchewd : I guess its all relative to where you sit. CNN and the NY Times are fairly centered in my opinon. Relative to me, and I am no liberal, you must be ve
30 747srule : When CNN first went on the air,I remember someone calling it the Chicken Noodle Network. Not much has changed,don't you think?
31 Toast : Left, left and far left in America only. From a European point of view, that would be more like center-right, center-right and center. It's interesti
32 AsstChiefMark : So THAT'S why I'd like to live in Europe!
33 Post contains images LTU932 : Dude, I love how you spoofed the Head On advert, that's just priceless! Sometimes the adverts end, here comes the anchor and says "Coming Up Next..."
34 Post contains images Coleplane : Yes, but I'm much, much better looking. And probably why I wouldn't. Though I found the English countryside just beautiful. Yeah, but I wish it were
35 Allrite : Don't worry - I spent very full days outside exploring wonderful Japan (I've been there 5 times in 5 years!). CNN was a background noise in English w
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