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User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1788 times:

Check out the standings - 4 days left (counting today) - and no division winners in the National League, and no home field advantage decided in the American League.

If I'm not mistaken, the Yankees could (though unlikely) still not only win the division, but home-field advantage. Added to that - any of the 4 teams going into today could still get home-field. That's nuts!

The Dbacks could get knocked out of their division lead by 2 different teams, and even out of the wild-card by up to 4 teams (Mets, Phillies - whichever doesn't win their division - as well as the Rockies and Padres).

The Cubs, the Dbacks and Mets are all doing their best to see whose fans can have the most heart trouble. I think the Cubs fortunately lose on that one, though - we've all been let down enough to see something like this coming.  crazy 

Here is a breakdown of some odds.

Personally, I say Cubs all the way. After that, I hope the Rockies get into the playoffs (I owe a friend a ballgame out there, and seeing the Cubs and Rockies in the 1st round should do nicely).

Also, I think the Rockies have the best shot (currently) at getting a playoff spot - even though they're the "worst" among the remaining wildcard contenders (the Cubs and Brew crew don't count - neither of them can win the wildcard - it's all about the division between those two). The Rockies have won 10 in a row and face the inconsistent Dodgers.

And the Brew Crew have to play the Padres - who have something to play for - so much the better for the Cubs.  mischievous 

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User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4005 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1779 times:

Too bad the Braves didn't start their latest winning streak a bit earlier...

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11410 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1770 times:

Too bad the Nationals didn't start their latest winning streak a bit earlier...  Yeah sure

But they are playing spoiler very nicely. Next victim: Philadelphia. Is Atlanta actually eliminated? How brutal would that be if the Nats swept both the Mets and the Phillies allowing the Braves to sneak in!



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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1771 times:

Good to see the Mariners took game 2 from the Tribe last night, evening up the Red Sox and Indians records. But with four left, and CLE playing one more against SEA and three against Kansas Sh*tty (no offense to the city, but the local nine do suck), and the Sox playing four against the Twins, it's gonna be hard to secure home field in BOS.

Good races though. Nice to see the Mets trying to play the part of the big BOS collapse for a change, hey 'ROCtongue 


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1765 times:

Well, Micah Owings was exactly what the Diamondbacks needed this afternoon, starting in place of Brandon Webb due to rain in Pittsburgh. 8-0 Diamondbacks.. Besides pitching 6.1 innings of shutout ball, Owings was 4 for 4 with three doubles and 3 RBI's raising his slugging pct. to over .700, (batting avg .339) not bad for a pitcher. Magic number for a playoff slot is now 2. Pressure on the Padres and Rockies to win tonight.

Edit for updated batting avg..

[Edited 2007-09-27 22:02:48]

[Edited 2007-09-27 22:03:05]

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4005 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (7 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 2):
Is Atlanta actually eliminated? How brutal would that be if the Nats swept both the Mets and the Phillies allowing the Braves to sneak in!

I like!  Big grin


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Holy Toledo, the Philles by beating the Braves tonight (sorry about that AirKas and DLK) and the Mets losing, means with three games to go, its all tied up. The Mets looked like they had this division wrapped up back on Memorial Day.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8904 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Would love nothing more than seeing the Phils win the NL East and the Mets stay home.

User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1698 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 7):
Would love nothing more than seeing the Phils win the NL East and the Mets stay home.

I would imagine that King George in the Bronx would love that also. Although I doubt that Fox/ESPN/TBS would like that.


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Except for the Cubs losing, all I have to say is - friggin' hilarious!!!

The Brew Crew went down, ensuring the Cubs bad luck won't kill them - yet.

The Indians are down, the Red Sox lost and the Yankees won - the Yanks are still alive for the division and home field. The A.L. doesn't matter much to me - all we need to see now, basically, are pairings and the East winner.

The D'backs won, the Padres won (again, sorry Milwaukee  biggrin  ) and the Rockies are up - I still say the Rockies are in the playoffs.

The other bad taste in my mouth is the Cardinals winning - I don't care much for Philly advancing - they belong with Cleveland in the basement of major sports.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

Why does it seem the Yankees are always playing the Devil Rays lately? No wonder they won a million games since June, playing Tampa Bay and Baltimore every day will help any team's record.

Now in a real division (NL West) every team but Barry Bonds has a chance at a winning record.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1664 times:

Call it 11 straight wins for the unstoppable Colorado Rockies, who have racked up 2 sweeps of the Dodgers (4 game sweep @ home & 3 game sweep in LA) plus a very impressive and crucial road sweep of the Padres as part of this streak...huge series comes up this weekend vs. the Arizona Diamondbacks in the friendly (and sure to be jam-packed) confines of Coors Field...the Rocks could jump into the division lead if they continue their current streak...also, some losses from the Padres, Phillies, and Mets would be greatly appreciated...

GO ROX!




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User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Go Braves!!

Okay, now that's outta the way.....


It's conceivable to have a five-way tie in the NL. Arizona, Colorado, NY, Phil., and San Diego could all finish with the same record. It would take four days of tie-breaker games to set the post-season match-ups.

That, along with the AL East, we have 4 out of six divisions not settled with less than a week to go. How long has it been since that has happened?


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 10):
Why does it seem the Yankees are always playing the Devil Rays lately? No wonder they won a million games since June, playing Tampa Bay and Baltimore every day will help any team's record.

Because they have 19 games to play with them per year.

-Mir



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 12):
It would take four days of tie-breaker games to set the post-season match-ups.

The Rockies win last night over the Dodgers prevented the possibility of Arizona, Colorado, Mets, Philadephia, and San Diego finishing with the same record. For example if the Rockies sweep the D-Backs then they will have 1 more win, if they take two out of three they will fall short by one: 90 vs. 89.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Plenty happened tonight:

-Cubs win the NL Central: They beat the Reds, and the Brewers lost to the Padres. The Brewers are now elliminated.
-Diamondbacks clinch a playoff spot: They beat the Rockies. The Rockies are now out of the NL West race, still alive for the Wild Card
-Phillies take over sole possession of 1st place, beating the Nationals. Mets lose to the Marlins.
-Red Sox win the AL East, as they beat the Twins and the Yankees lose to the Orioles.

-Mir



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1591 times:

Oops forgot that the Padres clinched at least a tie for the wild card in the National League.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Yankees blew a 3-run lead in the 9th, and Rivera blew it. A 3-run triple in the bottom of the 9th tied it.

Meanwhile, C.C. Sabathia won #19, and may have wrapped up the Indians first Cy Young since 1974 (Gaylord Perry). Although if Carmona gets a start Sunday, and he wins, and wins the ERA title, he could take it as well. And the Playoffs are set in the AL: the Red Sox vs. Angels, and the Yankess vs. Indians in the ALDS. GO TRIBE!


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1587 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 17):
Meanwhile, C.C. Sabathia won #19, and may have wrapped up the Indians first Cy Young since 1974 (Gaylord Perry).

If Peavy wins the Cy Young in the NL, it will be the Padres first Cy Young since you guess it Gaylord Perry.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21677 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (7 years 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1583 times:

Somebody check on KROC and make sure he's ok.

-Mir



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User currently offlineA380US From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

right now the Mets and phillies are tied for the NL east champion
and are each one game behind the padres for the wild card
so what happens if tomorrow the Mets and Phils win and the padres lose then there all tied so how do they wokr it out?



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1551 times:

ESPN didn't report it, but with the BoSox win tonight, and the Indians loss, the BoSox get home field in the AL throughout post-season. I'm pretty pissed at Tribe manager Eric Wedge, for sitting down so many starters this week when there was still something to play for. I think he didn't think home field throughout was that important. If the Indians meet the Red Sox, the Tribe only gets 3 home games now. Plus, the Indians can't pick which day they start the ALDS, which may torpedo their chance to use Sabathia and Carmona twice against New York.

User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

How about John Maine coming through today? He pitched a one hitter against the Marlins. The Mets won the game 13-0. They finally showed some fire today!

Quoting A380US (Reply 20):
so what happens if tomorrow the Mets and Phils win and the padres lose then there all tied so how do they wokr it out?

That just tried to explain this on Baseball Tonight. The Mets and Phillies would play a one game playoff and the winner would win the east. The Rockies and Padres would play one game to decide the west. The losers of those two games would then play another one game play off to determine the wild card winner.



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User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1511 times:

Mets are lossing 8 to friggen 1!!! The way they have been playing they deserve to win nothing!!  Angry

I guess it's time get into football mode and start watching the Giants more.



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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (7 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

What a finish!.....never expected the Mets to give back 8 games in 17 days...

And now the Padres travel to Colorado for a one game playoff to see who wins the NL wild card...

Looking forward to an entertaining playoff...the Angels/BoSox series should be a classic.

Tom at MSY (on the CrackBerry)



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25 Allstarflyer : Not that I'm against the Tribe, but to say that means you have to overlook Josh Beckett.
26 Mir : And after 162+ games of baseball, the NL Wild Card comes down to one inning. Padres and Rockies are tied going to the 9th. EDIT: Now going to extras.
27 USAFHummer : I've aged considerably in the past hour...so much, in fact, that I think I should be getting my first social security checks in the mail soon...
28 N1120A : And Thatcher struck out Hawpe with 2 on and 2 out. Time for the 10th. Who would have thought that Peavy would get his ass handed to him and the Padre
29 N1120A : Ok, now why in the world do you pinch hit for Mike Cameron in this situation? I realize it is righty v. righty, but you are talking about a proven MLB
30 Copaair737 : Isn't Mike Cameron injured? This game is a cliffhanger.
31 Post contains images San747 : Daily life as a Padres fan... This game or my general love for the Padres certainly hasn't helped my health situation, considering I have a family hi
32 N1120A : He came in as a pinch runner and played in the outfield, so he must have been doing ok. This is where the Friars are wishing Milton Bradley hadn't to
33 San747 : ...and the Padres couldn't capitalize AGAIN. For Christ's sake, someone just hit a home run and end this thing. I can't take it anymore.
34 N1120A : And Barrett is out. Looks like we will have a batter for Herges, then Torrealba and Sullivan. I wonder if they keep Thatcher in for what will likely b
35 N1120A : Well, if Thatcher makes it though the inning, you are looking at Giles, Hairston and a batter for Thatcher. Giles could put a charge into one. If any
36 San747 : True. I'd like to see one of them come through again, especially Giles.
37 N1120A : Well, they will get their chance. That Thatcher guy is f'ing good. Not just a Lefty One Out Guy
38 Allstarflyer : 13th inning. Unbelievable. Rockies have only needed 1 swing for 4 innings now. If Herges makes it unscathed through the 13th, I think the Rockies have
39 San747 : Plus it looks like Colorado is putting one of their crappiest pitchers on the mound right now... Mr. Jorge Julio. Stats say he's 0-5 and 0 for 7 in s
40 N1120A : I was about to say, the Padres just got lucky. Julio is a smoke thrower, but is very hittable when he can find the zone. When he can't, he does what
41 N1120A : There is goes. Hairston nails a dong off Julio.
42 San747 : PADRES 2-RUN SHOT!!!!! Hairston hit it perfectly... 8-6 now. Lets see if we can get some more insurance, and then get Hoffman out there and close it o
43 N1120A : LMAO. You are talking about one of the best closers in history there, and the only player on the Padres I respect.
44 Fumanchewd : Don't be silly, there are no players from Finland. Go Cubs!
45 N1120A : If it was in San Diego, Hells Bells would be playing.
46 San747 : I know. Trevor is the best, and you can always guarantee 40+ saves from him every year, and I have the utmost respect for him. It's just that he has
47 N1120A : Um, no. That honor currently goes to Saito-san. Almost every closer does that. You can't expect everyone to be Eric Gagne of a few years ago
48 San747 : I know. I don't expect him to be perfect, but I just wish when he blows a save, it isn't always an important game. Blow a game in April or something,
49 San747 : JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST!!!!!!!! I will not live to see tomorrow if shit like this keeps going down. Another fucking blown save. Christ.
50 N1120A : Holy f'ing mother goat. Hoffman blew the save and it isn't looking good, as Holliday is on third with 0 out. Looks like they are giving Helton an IBB.
51 San747 : That's the game... God. That game was totally was in the bag for the Padres, and it ends like this.
52 Copaair737 : Game. Set. Match. What a helluva finish. Wow. Holliday redeemed himself.
53 Fumanchewd : Looks like the Rockies are gonna win. Wow, what a game.
54 N1120A : And that's all she wrote. Colorado completes a masterful second half comeback and Trevor Hoffman blows a 2 run save without getting a single out. Damn
55 Dragon-wings : Looks like Holiday never touch home plate.
56 N1120A : Are they appealing?
57 San747 : I did notice that. As they showed the replay, it is actually pretty clear that Holliday never did actually touch the plate. The ump waited about 3-5
58 USAFHummer : Do you believe in miracles?? YES!!! GO ROX!!! Umps owe us one after blowing the Atkins home run call so badly...this balances it out...
59 San747 : Not that I know of, but they totally should. I'm not sure if it's too late now or if anyone in the Padres dugout noticed.
60 N1120A : I wouldn't be so sure about that. Remember that MLB had them replay the Pine Tar game after Brett's home run. If he didn't touch the plate, he is out
61 Tom in NO : Un-friggin-believable finish.....thought Trevor-time was gonna pull it out for the Friars. Btw, nice safe call by the home plate ump...first off, he w
62 San747 : Agreed. I really think someone needs to look into whether he actually scored or not, and then just continue with 2 outs, 8-8 as it is supposed to be.
63 USAFHummer : Also note that Barrett did not tag him out after the safe call, therefore how could he be out? The ump ruled safe, Barrett did not tag Holliday out b
64 Post contains images Allstarflyer : Unbelievable. The Rockies did it. And against Hoffman. They deserved to lose after sticking Julio on the mound, but now they've proven they're the mos
65 San747 : That's where it gets complicated. If he didn't touch home, but also was not tagged, is he safe or out? Does the run count? This has to at least be lo
66 Post contains images Mir : Amazing comeback by the Rockies, but it did seem like Holliday didn't touch the plate. Bad call by the ump (I can't stand Tim McClellan, who looks lik
67 Fumanchewd : The sports networks will consult their rules gurus for the future, but it will not change the results of this game.
68 Dragon-wings : If he never touched the plate and was never tagged out then the play never finished.
69 Mir : Barrett did get him after the safe call. -Mir
70 USAFHummer : Are you sure? I don't recall seeing that...
71 N1120A : He is out. If you walk off the field, you are out if you didn't touch a bag. If you are still on, you can try and touch the bag, but he went into the
72 Post contains images Mir : Hoffman doesn't have to face the heavy hitting AL lineups (nor does Saito). We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one. -Mir
73 USAFHummer : Any word on whether or not Bud Black will appeal?
74 San747 : Still haven't heard yet. I am also very interested in how this whole situation will play out.
75 Mir : According to Wikipedia he has until noon tomorrow to make his decision on whether or not to protest. Wikipedia also says that safe/out calls cannot b
76 San747 : OK. What could theoretically happen if the ruling IS overturned? The only logical thing I can think of is that the game is resumed from that point, c
77 Mir : Holliday is out, and they play the game from there. Helton is up against Hoffman with 2 outs. -Mir
78 USAFHummer : Also key here is the timing of the alleged tag...if it came after the safe call by Mcclelland, then the game is over and the tag is meaningless ...I'
79 Post contains links Nosedive : Rules "in play" here: Rules 4 Umps on safe/out Rule 9 is where this all comes down to Appeals: Rules 10 My questions: Can we really have this appeal a
80 Post contains links and images USAFHummer : Evidently, according to this quote from the AP recap, Black said "It looked to me like he did get it." Seems like there will be no protest and the Rox
81 Graphic : What about the fact that the catcher used his foot to block Holliday's hand from legitamately touching home plate? Isn't that technically an Interfere
82 Mir : No, it's a good job of blocking the plate. About the only way Holliday could have touched the plate is if he got his hand in under Barrett's spikes (
83 Graphic : Whelp, shows how much I've been following baseball lately.
84 Fumanchewd : Listen everyone. This is a bs issue that some SD fans will clench onto. The fact is that the runner was called safe, even if he wasn't. The game is do
85 Nosedive : As well they should. Colorado will come back with the HR v Double controversy. It's like in the late 1990s. Was Brett Hulls foot in the crease or was
86 Post contains images Tom in NO : However the game ended last night, it definitely was not... (scanned from a photo I took at a Giants/Padres game at Petco in 2005) Tom at MSY
87 N1120A : No. Blocking the plate is legal. It wouldn't be Helton. Helton was on first at the time Not acceptable. If it is obvious that a call is wrong, it nee
88 Mir : Yeah, my bad. I forgot that he had been walked. It would have been Brad Hawpe up against Hoffman with Helton on first. Umpires do blow calls. It's pa
89 Continental : And that's the one thing that sucks about baseball. They need to have booth reviews like they do in the NFL and even in tennis. I've seen several gam
90 Nosedive : Ok, Atkins hit a home run... why were we in extra innings again?
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