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Could Mel Brooks Make Blazing Saddles Today?  
User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

In a moment of relative quiet, the talk in the office turned to a younger employee who had just seen parts of the movie "Blazing Saddles" for the first time today. Talk turned to whether or not Mel Brooks could have made that film today. I say no way. Too many people with thin skins would come out of the woodwork demanding that the way their certain group is portrayed be either changed or eliminated altogether. I think the general agreement was that the PC police would be all over this one. How say you? On a side note, I have yet to figure out how the movie "Space Balls" has sold more copies than "Blazing Saddles".

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User currently offlineSJCRRPAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

I think it could be because it was obviously humor. No worse than anything Dave Chappelle does or Carlos whats-his-name does.

User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1812 times:

How about TV shows like "The Jeffersons", or "Chico and The Man", or "All In The Family".

Those were ahead of their time, but couldn't be made in this day and age because of the stupidity of PC.


User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

I doubt Warner Bros. would finance it. I doubt any major studio would. Brooks would either have to finance it himself or find a small, indie-type studio to do so.

However, people would go to see it because it's so "naughty." It might not make a lot of money in the theatres, but it would be one of those movies that makes more in DVD sales for a long period of time.

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User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1808 times:

While 'Blazing Saddles' movie was a huge and twisted humorous comment on race issues of the then 1970's America and of the old west, and was co-written by Richard Prior, it often used the N-word in it's dialogue. The recent condemnation by the NAACP, many black leaders and society in general of the N-word's use in common use and in entertainment most probably would be the biggest issue that would prevent the movie being made today. I also suspect that it's showing on TV, even on cable in the future may have to be censored of the n-word fearing a reaction from the public.

User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11445 posts, RR: 76
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1771 times:
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Probably not unless it was shown to be anti-government and anti-conservative.

It's a shame they can make Van Wilder or the Lizard movies (like the Dukes of Hazzard remake) and Mel's not making his harder hitting movies now. Although he did just redo the Producers and is redoing Young Frankenstein on Broadway (what KNOCKERS!)

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter):
On a side note, I have yet to figure out how the movie "Space Balls" has sold more copies than "Blazing Saddles".

Bigger potential audience of age to appreciate the humor and currency of the movie who were likely to buy/rent the movie in video format.



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User currently offlineShyFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1746 times:

I think the biggest obstacle would be finding the acting talent.

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29698 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1739 times:

Quoting ShyFlyer (Reply 7):
I think the biggest obstacle would be finding the acting talent.

That's a big problem there....Hollywood is dead. Just studio hacks who pretend, but don't act.

Blazing Saddles was a product of it's time, so no you couldn't make a new version of it.



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 3 weeks ago) and read 1718 times:

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 1):
I think it could be because it was obviously humor. No worse than anything Dave Chappelle does or Carlos whats-his-name does.

But they are black and mexican. Mel Brooks is a white guy. It is ok for minorities to be racist.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):
I also suspect that it's showing on TV, even on cable in the future may have to be censored of the n-word fearing a reaction from the public.

Blazing Saddles on TV is a waste of 2 hours. They even censor the farts out of the campfire scene- which seems dumb to me.

Quoting L-188 (Reply 8):
Hollywood is dead.

No kidding.. At some point in the mid 90s production values and quality went out the window in exchange for really cool animated explosions. I miss movies with decent acting and storylines.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1682 times:

Quoting SJCRRPAX (Reply 1):
I think it could be because it was obviously humor. No worse than anything Dave Chappelle does or Carlos whats-his-name does.



Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 8):
But they are black and mexican. Mel Brooks is a white guy. It is ok for minorities to be racist.

Just becuase it was obvious humor doesn't mean that the PC overload of today would allow it or not come out of their skin over it. They would and the movie would be crucified. And Captoveur is spot on in his assessment. Chappelle, Mencia, etc. can get away with telling jokes about race, but a white comic can't even come close, unless he is cracking on Rednecks...and thats just not as fresh as it was 20 years ago.


User currently offlineComorin From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4869 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter):
I have yet to figure out how the movie "Space Balls" has sold more copies than "Blazing Saddles".

Because it is better than the the movie it spoofs. It's Mel Brooks (May the Schwartz be with him) at his best! Who can forget Pizza the Hut or the cameo with John Hurt?

Mel Brooks is the greatest living American of all time - he deserves to be on Mount Rushmore  Smile


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1658 times:

Quoting L-188 (Reply 7):
That's a big problem there....Hollywood is dead. Just studio hacks who pretend, but don't act.

I agree to some extent. What I think what has happened is that Hollywood has become too successful, which has made them risk adverse. They rather remake a popular movie, do a sequel (ever notice this summer was the summer of sequels) or put together some formulaic piece of crap, than take a risk on something that might offend or might be too high brow (and I think most Mel Brooks movies are) for the movie going audience. The shareholders of the major studios are now used to these nice big dividends and will not allow the studio to take any risks at all.

Franky the 1970s were a unique time in Hollywood. The Golden Age was long over, and frankly they were in a slump. And socially the US was in transition and was more willing to be critical of itself. Hence you see things on film and TV that you wouldn't really see today. Something like All in the Family wouldn't get greenlighted today, as an example.



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 7438 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1652 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
Those were ahead of their time, but couldn't be made in this day and age because of the stupidity of PC.

I would agree but ever since Borat came out, I have to wonder.

Borat is probably the closest type of blatant in your face un-PCness to come out in the last decade or 2 (and yet its still light years away from Brook's genious). Yet it was made today with a fair amount of ...response.

So to answer the question, I think Brooks could do it again today.



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1766 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Quoting Comorin (Reply 10):
Because it is better than the the movie it spoofs

Yes......and the recent batch of prequels stink compared to the original 3 SW movies..........so Mel could have a lot of material for a Spaceballs 2.



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User currently offlineJFK69 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1389 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

So So sad that we will never see a movie like Blazing Saddles again. The liberal hollywood that we have come to know would launch the biggest campaign against anything of this nature. All who said the NAACP or GLAAD would come out is 110% correct. people just don't understand that it is for humor and humor only. Let Chappelle make his stuff, Let Mencia make his stolen crap....but let a movie like this go as well.

User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

Would the Indians have to speak Arabic I wonder? Just a thought.

Otherwise the beans part might have to go due to excessive greenhouse emissions.

What else? Nope, all fine other than that!


User currently offlineRFields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7345 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting RJdxer (Thread starter):
I have yet to figure out how the movie "Space Balls" has sold more copies than "Blazing Saddles".

I know many people who bought Space Balls because they thought it was a real SciFi movie. Clueless I'm sure - but Mel Brooks would laugh all the way to the bank.

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 8):
But they are black and mexican. Mel Brooks is a white guy. It is ok for minorities to be racist.

Brooks is a minority like the others.

I'm still waiting for "History of the World - Part II"


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1554 times:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 16):


I'm still waiting for "History of the World - Part II"

Me too... I want to see Hitler on Ice and Jews in Space.


Knowing Mel he may still make it.



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User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1546 times:

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 16):
Brooks is a minority like the others.

Which is why he has free reign on Jew jokes. I just think if he made a movie that said nigger or beaner every third word today he would be crucified.


User currently offlineCaptainJon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 8):
Blazing Saddles on TV is a waste of 2 hours. They even censor the farts out of the campfire scene- which seems dumb to me.

I was watching Spaceballs on network broadcast TV and during the whole "Asshole" scene, which of course was all beeped out, watching it in closed captions showed all of the dialogue without censorship. Which is rather odd because every time I seen a show with censorship, they always write the word beep.


User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 8):
They even censor the farts out of the campfire scene- which seems dumb to me.

Especially considering the stuff they get away with on network TV these days. That's why I love British comedy, as they have an appreciation for fart jokes and humor.

Quoting Baroque (Reply 15):
What else?

Mongo would go to jail for animal abuse......

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
How about TV shows like "The Jeffersons", or "Chico and The Man", or "All In The Family".

Those were ahead of their time, but couldn't be made in this day and age because of the stupidity of PC.

Heck, at least 75% of the sitcoms from the 70s couldn't get greenlighted in this day and age, even on Fox. I don't even think South Park would get greenlighted in today's climate.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29698 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1493 times:

Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 18):
Which is why he has free reign on Jew jokes. I just think if he made a movie that said nigger or beaner every third word today he would be crucified.

You can really tell where Richard Pryor contributed to the writing in Blazing Saddles.

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 16):
I know many people who bought Space Balls because they thought it was a real SciFi movie.

What are you trying to insinuate?

Quoting RFields5421 (Reply 16):
I'm still waiting for "History of the World - Part II"

Yeah, get on it Mel!.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1487 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 20):
Heck, at least 75% of the sitcoms from the 70s couldn't get greenlighted in this day and age, even on Fox. I don't even think South Park would get greenlighted in today's climate.

I don't know about that. Watch a few episodes of "Two and a Half Men," and get back to us. I can't believe how much the writers of that show get away with.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1454 times:

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 20):
That's why I love British comedy, as they have an appreciation for fart jokes and humor.

British Humor? I thought that was a myth like the Lock Ness Monster.


User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11123 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1411 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 9):
Chappelle, Mencia, etc. can get away with telling jokes about race, but a white comic can't even come close, unless he is cracking on Rednecks...and thats just not as fresh as it was 20 years ago.

Carlos Mencia tried to explain it once: if one race can make fun of other races, whites should be able to also. Mencia seems like the only comic that looks "non-racist" as opposed to Chappelle or Chris Rock.

Quoting CaptainJon (Reply 19):
Which is rather odd because every time I seen a show with censorship, they always write the word beep.

I watch Mencia and when he swears in Spanish, they don't bleep out the same things they would bleep out the same things they would in English. I think that is odd.



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25 Tom in NO : If anyone cares, the chopped-version of Blazing Saddles is on tonight (Tuesday) at 8:00pm Eastern on CMT.....I'll pass on the TV version and pull out
26 Srbmod : That's true, but considering the time slot the show is aired in during Prime Time, they can get away with stuff at 9 pm that you can't at 8 pm. Altho
27 AeroWesty : So let me get this right. We constantly hear bitching and moaning about the "Hollywood liberals", but now the same crowd is saying they aren't liberal
28 RJdxer : Not what I'm saying. But virtually every group that is sterotyped in that film would most likely come out in some form or fashion and blast the way t
29 Post contains links AeroWesty : Actually, I think you simply don't get it. Roger Ebert said it best in his original review of the film in 1974. Mel Brooks succeeds because his stere
30 RJdxer : But that was 1974 and just like what was acceptable in the movies in 1974 (nudity, language, violence) was not acceptable in 1944, so too have times
31 AeroWesty : Perhaps you didn't read the review. Here, let me quote some of it for you: "There are some people who can literally get away with anything -- say any
32 Zkpilot : History of the World: Part I is fantastic Mel Brooks at his best! A shame they didn't make Part II even tho the preview was some of the funniest stuff
33 RJdxer : We will have to agree to disagree then. I don't think even Mel Brooks could get away with a movie like Blazing Saddles in todays PC enviroment. To ma
34 PHLBOS : When Blazing Saddles first aired on T.V. (around 1984 IIRC); so much was cut/deleted that some additional scenes (deleted from the original release)
35 Post contains links and images Kieron747 : Unlike that pinnacle of American humour!..
36 Post contains images Srbmod : And culture in Crapchester....... I guess the PBS station in Crapchester doesn't show any good Brit Coms. You have to give them credit with how they
37 CaptOveur : Are you Kidding? KROC can't even find any channels other than ESPN.
38 BCAL : My thoughts exactly. The Politically Correct Brigade has gone too far and the do-gooders believe we must comply to their rules. Borat got away relati
39 Srbmod : You never know, the missus may make him watch other channels from time to time, unless he has a Man Cave he skulks off to when he wants to watch TV.
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