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The Worst Football Dive Ever?  
User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

I have seen this video about a dive from the Milan goalkeeper Dida tduring a match against Celtic.
What are your thoughts on this. Have you seen any worse dives or better ones?

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=302588&_cobr=optus


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User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Isn't that how you play soccer, have someone contact you in the slightest, then go down like you've been shot?

User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Flyboysp (Thread starter):
I have seen this video about a dive from the Milan goalkeeper Dida tduring a match against Celtic.
What are your thoughts on this. Have you seen any worse dives or better ones?

I remember that one occasion, during the 2002 World Cup, someone just slightly touched Ronaldinho on the head and the guy fell down pretending he was hit badly in the leg. He should have been ejected from that.

Bastards who dive, like Dida, should be banned from football. They're responsible for ruining the sport.

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 1):
Isn't that how you play soccer, have someone contact you in the slightest, then go down like you've been shot?

Absolutely NOT! In fact, there has been a bigger push now more than ever to severly punish divers, not just on the national federation side, but also on the side of continental football federations like UEFA. The German football federation DFB has itself started a new zero-tolerance policy against diving (or Schwalben as we call them), in which, even if the game is over, if there's a suspicion of a dive, a certain part of a game is reviewed to see if the player was found to be diving or not. If the player is caught diving, he gets an automatic 2 game suspension for unsportsmanlike conduct. Others should follow the DFB suit and start such a zero-tolerance policy as well.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
Absolutely NOT!

I know, I was joking, for the most part, sort of.

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
They're responsible for ruining the sport.

I would agree, I quite enjoy watching my university team play or my cousins team, or pretty much anything amateur. But when it comes to watching professional soccer I'd have to be paid to go.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Perhaps he thought he'd been hit by a flare again  Yeah sure


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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Celtic should certainly be punished for the fan invading the pitch (and doubtless will be), but so should Dida for such blatant cheating. I mean, he went the whole way, stretchered off with an icepack on his face. Ridiculous. Ban him.


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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Celtic should certainly be punished for the fan invading the pitch (and doubtless will be)

Yes, but it should only be a fine. Celtic fans tend to be some of the best supporters around, and to hit them hard for one eejit, would be unfair on the club.
(And thats coming from a Rangers fan  Wow! )



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User currently offlineLHRjc From Netherlands, joined Apr 2006, 1964 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
Celtic should certainly be punished for the fan invading the pitch (and doubtless will be),



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
Yes, but it should only be a fine

I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be along the lines of playing the next game behind closed doors or something like that.

Quoting Banco (Reply 5):
. I mean, he went the whole way, stretchered off with an icepack on his face. Ridiculous. Ban him.

Totally agree. I mean, the "fan" hit him under his neck, so why did he need an ice pack on his face? And how come he mananged to start chasing the idiot before he realised he was hurt? It's reminiscent of the flare incident, which was ridiculous too.



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User currently offlineFlyboysp From Australia, joined Apr 2007, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

After posting, i started looking around YouTube for some dives, and found some corkers.
My funniest/favourite dive i have seen is in this video. It's about 45 seconds in. Gets hit in the shin the ball, and the player falls to the ground clutching his head.




What about your favourite/funniest/most hated dives



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User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
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IN either 98 or 02 world cup when brazilian star dived roberto Carlos?Ronaldo? cant think who exactly but they got red carded was good moment.......Or Italians diving in 2006 world cup.

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 2):
I remember that one occasion, during the 2002 World Cup, someone just slightly touched Ronaldinho on the head and the guy fell down pretending he was hit badly in the leg. He should have been ejected from that.

Actually, you got it a bit confused: It was in the Turkey-Brazil game, that Rivaldo got a ball shot against his knee and then he fell over pretending he was hit in the face, the scene Flyboysp mentioned. And quite frankly, for pathetic dives like Rivaldo or now Dida, I would love to beat the sh!t out of those a$$holes. THEN they'd have a reason to lie on the floor wailing like the little pvssies they are.


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Flyboysp (Reply 8):

Great, yet sad video. But trues words than in the end were never spoken!  yes 

Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 1):
Isn't that how you play soccer, have someone contact you in the slightest, then go down like you've been shot?

Unfortunately, not all untrue these days. And how I hate these drama queens!

Solution for me: after every foul action that would include a card, a penalty and / or a freekick in the opponent's half, the ref should ask the victim if he pleas to have been fouled. If he replies yes, and video footage later on proves him to have lied or dived, the game should be ruled as 3-0 for the opponent team, plus the cheater should get a 5 game ban. Would end the acting quickly.

But that would be tough for Spanish and Italian clubs, of course...  Yeah sure


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
But that would be tough for Spanish and Italian clubs, of course...

*Cough*...Jurgen Klinsmann...*Cough*...  Wink



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
Yes, but it should only be a fine. Celtic fans tend to be some of the best supporters around, and to hit them hard for one eejit, would be unfair on the club.

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This wasn't something where the player or the referee was in direct danger, like that Denmark vs Sweden match a few months ago, when Herbert Fandel was forced to stop the game before stoppage time and the game was ruled a 3:0 for Sweden. As has been shown, Dida was playing the drama queen here. Yes, Celtic should be fined without the penalty having any effect on the outcome of the game, but Dida should be suspended as well. Given the gravity of the incident, I say he should get a 6 month suspension by UEFA and FIFA, so he doesn't smear the reputation of the Brazilian national team with his drama queen performance.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
And thats coming from a Rangers fan

 Wow!

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
Actually, you got it a bit confused: It was in the Turkey-Brazil game, that Rivaldo got a ball shot against his knee and then he fell over pretending he was hit in the face, the scene Flyboysp mentioned.

Yes, that was what I mentioned. The moment I saw that, I wanted to kick his ass for it.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 10):
And quite frankly, for pathetic dives like Rivaldo or now Dida, I would love to beat the sh!t out of those a$$holes. THEN they'd have a reason to lie on the floor wailing like the little pvssies they are.

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BTW: http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_1770439.html (German only)

According to that article, many AC Milan fans have expressed their outrage towards Dida's drama queen performance on the pitch. One of those fans says Dida has ruined the reputation of the club and they (the club) should take disciplinary action against him. A decision on whether the UEFA disciplinary committee will investigate the issue won't come until tomorrow.


User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

The very last dive on that second video...a manager and a player, absolute classic.

And Eric Cantona's words at the end there are right on.


User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9541 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting IFEMaster (Reply 14):
The very last dive on that second video...a manager and a player, absolute classic.

 checkmark  I also liked the one involving Drogba and Lehman. I watched it live - what a laugh that was.  biggrin 

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
Yes, but it should only be a fine.

 checkmark  Those theatrics deserve a stiff punishment.  wideeyed 

... and that's from another Rangers' fan. Fortunately none of the Rangers or Celtic fans I know frequent this site.  Smile


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting David L (Reply 15):
Fortunately none of the Rangers or Celtic fans I know frequent this site.

Well, there is the resident St. Pauli fan and Celtic supporter, which is me.  Wink


User currently offlineAcheron From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1723 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Flyboysp (Thread starter):
I have seen this video about a dive from the Milan goalkeeper Dida tduring a match against Celtic.
What are your thoughts on this. Have you seen any worse dives or better ones?

I blame Italy for it. They seemed to move through the World Cup by inertia, or rather, diving.


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 16):
Well, there is the resident St. Pauli fan and Celtic supporter, which is me. Wink

Dirty git  Wink



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9541 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 16):
Quoting David L (Reply 15):
Fortunately none of the Rangers or Celtic fans I know frequent this site.

Well, there is the resident St. Pauli fan and Celtic supporter, which is me.

As I said... none of those I know.  Smile


User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 9):
IN either 98 or 02 world cup when brazilian star dived roberto Carlos?Ronaldo? cant think who exactly but they got red carded was good moment...

the '02 dive of Rivaldo (shown in the video) was as pathetic as Dida's. What bugs me is that these guys are superstars who play for top clubs or national teams. They know there are at least a dozen cameras pointing at them ... so they really think no one's going to find out??

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
But that would be tough for Spanish and Italian clubs, of course... Yeah sure

It happens everywhere, no exceptions

btw, about the video, the one of Cristano Ronaldo's that ended up in a pk is actually a very good dive. you need different angles and slow motion to see it was a dive at all!

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
If he replies yes, and video footage later on proves him to have lied or dived, the game should be ruled as 3-0 for the opponent team,

That could work for the obvious, pathetic ones like Dida's but only for those cases, because many times players get a yellow card for diving when in fact the may have tripped or something because of the play itself, withou it being a foul. They don't always dive!

unfortunately this too is part of football

regars  Smile



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User currently offlineEZEIZA From Argentina, joined Aug 2004, 4968 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting Aussie18 (Reply 9):
IN either 98 or 02 world cup when brazilian star dived roberto Carlos?Ronaldo? cant think who exactly but they got red carded was good moment...

the '02 dive of Rivaldo (shown in the video) was as pathetic as Dida's. What bugs me is that these guys are superstars who play for top clubs or national teams. They know there are at least a dozen cameras pointing at them ... so they really think no one's going to find out??

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
But that would be tough for Spanish and Italian clubs, of course... Yeah sure

It happens everywhere, no exceptions

btw, about the video, the one of Cristano Ronaldo's that ended up in a pk is actually a very good dive. you need different angles and slow motion to see it was a dive at all!

Quoting ZakHH (Reply 11):
If he replies yes, and video footage later on proves him to have lied or dived, the game should be ruled as 3-0 for the opponent team,

That could work for the obvious, pathetic ones like Dida's but only for those cases, because many times players get a yellow card for diving when in fact the may have tripped or something because of the play itself, withou it being a foul. They don't always dive!

unfortunately this too is part of football

regars  Smile



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User currently offlineAussie18 From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 1757 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 20):
the '02 dive of Rivaldo (shown in the video) was as pathetic as Dida's. What bugs me is that these guys are superstars who play for top clubs or national teams. They know there are at least a dozen cameras pointing at them ... so they really think no one's going to find out??

But right now, does it matter that everyone finds out? I mean, yes, they get abuse for being a cheat, but the authorities do sod all about it and it gets an opponent sent off. They'll only stop if FIFA or whoever clamp down so hard on it (six game ban etc) that it isn't worth it. In my view, a straight red card for diving would be a start. And the ability to retrospectively punish too.



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User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9541 posts, RR: 42
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4237 times:

Quoting EZEIZA (Reply 20):
That could work for the obvious, pathetic ones like Dida's but only for those cases, because many times players get a yellow card for diving when in fact the may have tripped or something because of the play itself, withou it being a foul. They don't always dive!

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Rather than messing aound during the actual games, the new Chief Executive of the SFA wants to punish divers after matches, using video evidence, for instances that the referee missed. Sounds like a good idea to me.


25 JCKastrup : My favourite is this one: From the Celtic-Milan match earlier this year. -By the way: Congratulations to all Celtic-fans for beating those constantly
26 Post contains images LTU932 : Change the six game ban to a six month ban, and then we're talking. Diving should be punished not just with yellow and a review of the case for a pos
27 GQfluffy : Football pansies. Do that shit on the ice and you'll get your face planted into the boards.
28 Post contains images EZEIZA : That's a mature way to approach and solve the problem
29 GQfluffy : That's a hockey way to deal with divers...
30 Post contains images Piercey : uhh... Gilardino was viciously attacked by Celtic! Same with Dida! F*** those dirty Celtic players!!!! Screw them and their Liverpool freinds in the
31 EZEIZA : Cool, let's apply this to football. So from now on anyone who dives gets beat up by the other team
32 Post contains images DAL767400ER : Sounds good, I think we should propose this to Blatter .
33 PAHS200 : *Totti* in the Australia-Italy game
34 EZEIZA : Totti shot the pk, he wasn't the one who made the play. The player that fell was Grosso.
35 Post contains images JCKastrup : Stupid cheating Italians.........
36 EZEIZA : Calling italians stupid is pretty offensive, but I'm pretty sure no Italian, including myself, care too much since no matter all the crying (yes, cry
37 Post contains images LTU932 : Indeed. I'm all for lynching divers on the pitch!
38 Acheron : Considering the times he have kicked players in the face and done other nasty stuff during matchs, and has gotten away with it or barely a yellow car
39 Post contains images JCKastrup : No way. Materazzi is one of the few Italian players you don't see diving. And he also contributes to less diving in the Serie A by acually tackling h
40 Post contains links LTU932 : http://www.sport1.de/de/sport/artikel_1788142.html (German only) UEFA has finally decided to start a disciplinary trial against Dida. The decision cam
41 Post contains images DAL767400ER : I'm not sure of the language of the reporter in that vid, but I could swear that the reporter calls Materazzi "Arschloch" (a$$hole) .
42 Acheron : Yeah, specially when he goes "matrix" and throws kicks in the air. Now seriously, he is an a**hole and a brainless brute. Just the fact that he never
43 Post contains images Mir : Say what you like about American football, but at least we don't have divers. -Mir
44 Post contains images LTU932 : What about those quaterbacks who run a quaterback draw and decide to slide instead of being a man and taking the tackle? Don't get me wrong though, I
45 Mir : True, but at least they're not trying to fake injury. -Mir
46 Post contains images LTU932 : Point taken, but being the purist that I am, even a quaterback should be man enough to take a hit from a 300 lbs player if necessary.
47 JCKastrup : Materazzi and player-types like him are the cure for divers. Divers like Gilardino, Christiano Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Robben, Diouf and "The diving king"
48 Post contains images EZEIZA : No problem About Materazzi, I think he's a major ass, but I also agree that he won't let you dive if you try to pass him. He'll kick the crap out of
49 Post contains images LTU932 : And he's so in love with Zinédine Zidane's sister, that he got his ass kicked for it when he told Zizou that he could become his brother in law.
50 DAL767400ER : Don't forget Drogba. I'm used to German football commentators never calling divers anything negative, and then switching to British commentary during
51 Post contains images EZEIZA : Hope the sister is worht it, but as a consolation prize, he did win the world cup, so I'm sure his injuries from zizou's attack healed pretty quickly
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