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User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8434 posts, RR: 9
Posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 764 times:

I know there are tons of ipod threads on anet and I really couldn't be bothered to search them all. I did however try to use google to solve my problem but with no success.

I bought an 80gb ipod classic the other day. succumbing and conforming to the ipod craze. When I connected it, I noticed it said 74.3gb avaliable. Now I know hard drives etc usually have a small amount of space unavailable but I've never seen something that's stopped me using 5.7gb before! So what is it for and how can I get it back? it seems a bit excessive to me to be some kind of buffer.

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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Harddisk sizes are generally indicated in millions (or billions) of bytes, not in binary "megabytes" (2^20=1024*1024=1048576) or "gigabytes" (2^30=1024*1024*1024=1073741824).

80000000000 bytes are indeed just 74.5 "gigabytes" in binary notation. With the iPod firmware and other overhead accounting for the rest.

It's the same with other harddisks. The manufacturers always use the "bigger sounding" of the two metrics, operating systems or applications often use the other.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8615 posts, RR: 43
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 1):
operating systems or applications often use the other.

Do you know of an example that doesn't?  confused 



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Should have got yerself a decent MP3 player instead of an Ipod  Wink


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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8615 posts, RR: 43
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 3):
Should have got yerself a decent MP3 player instead of an Ipod

He could have hired you as his personal music player... bits and crumbs come almost cheaper than electricity these days and those are all you'll ever need! Mind you, bagpipes do get boring after a while.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 2):
Do you know of an example that doesn't?

I didn't bother to check.

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 3):
Should have got yerself a decent MP3 player instead of an Ipod

It would quite probably use the exact same harddisk type from the same manufacturer.


User currently offlineBagpiper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Aloges (Reply 4):
Mind you, bagpipes do get boring after a while.

I thought this one was cool:



User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3266 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Klaus (Reply 1):
80000000000 bytes are indeed just 74.5 "gigabytes" in binary notation.

Bingo. I love going thru the reviews of hard drives, and seeing the ones of people who complain that their hard drive doesn't have the space it advertised. It must be the thing to do, as it seems all hard drive manufacturers do this.



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21353 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 764 times:

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 7):
Bingo. I love going thru the reviews of hard drives, and seeing the ones of people who complain that their hard drive doesn't have the space it advertised. It must be the thing to do, as it seems all hard drive manufacturers do this.

As far as I know they all do indeed.

And I agree that it's ultimately deceptive advertising, since the metric most people are acqainted to is the primary one used by the operating system telling them how much space there still is or how much space a file occupies. Advertising harddisks with the numbers "which sound bigger" is more than just a little dubious...  yuck 


User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5842 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 748 times:

Let's not forget that the MBR, boot sectors, and the various FATs eat space, too.


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