767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2518 times:
Ground rules for this thread:
This is NOT meant to be a political discussion or a moral discussion on whether a military is needed or immoral or what. So if you are tempted to write something of that nature, go away.
Now, back to this topic:
I am in awe of the courage and conviction of those who have volunteered for military service (for whatever country they are from, not just U.S.)
I cannot even imagine how much faith --- I'm not necessarily talking religious faith, more of a spiritual faith -- you would have to have to put yourself on the line like that.
I have so much respect for the guys and women who have been brave enough to step up and say, "I'll do it" when so many of us would not have the balls to.
So my question is, what made you decide to do military service? Was it a family tradition? Was it a financial decision? Was it purely a love for your country and a desire to serve your fellow citizens?
Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2516 times:
My father instilled in me a sense of duty to honor my country. My father was not born in the US, but Cuba. He fought against Castro in the Bay of Pigs, and after that fell apart, he was offered a commision in the USAF. He was always saying this(US) was the greatest country in the world, and I was honor-bound to defend it.
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2513 times:
I was 18 and married and not going to college. After being in for about 5 minutes it was clear that a sense of duty and to give something back to my country were the top reasons. Those were the proudest years of my life.
Rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7714 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2510 times:
For me in 1968-70 - there was a concern about the Vietnam War, but there was never any consideration that I would not go into the military if called. That's just how I was raised in rural Arkansas.
My mother was very concerned. She lost a brother in Belgium in Feb 45. Her sister was in agony in 67-68 while my oldest male cousin was flying as a B/N in USMC F-4's in Vietnam.
My decision in 1971 to leave college and join the Navy was a complex one. For one thing I was wasting my money and time in college. I did not have a high draft number and would probably not be called. But it was a concern.
After my first tour I found a couple things. That I understood the military system. That I liked being appreciated and evaluated on how I did my job and my military duty. That I enjoyed traveling to different countries and seeing the world.
But mostly I had seen countries without freedom, and knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that serving my country was important.
I stayed as long as I could - volunteering for ground combat assignments in Lebanon and the Gulf War after Vietnam. I was one of the best in the Navy in my career field in a combat zone and I trained my men and brought them home.
But along the way, I ended up as a single parent with two teenagers. I retired in 1992.
My son choose to enter the Army in early 1997 - largely because of his lack of job and career prospects.
He served until the fall of 2003, moving to a previously planned civilian job in retail.
He was in a 3rd Infantry Bradley unit which captured the Baghdad airport. He could have avoided the war because his EOS was early enough. We discussed it and one factor in his decision to extend for 9 months was his obligation to the men he led and trained - to take them to war and do his best to bring them home safe.
DL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11453 posts, RR: 73
Reply 4, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2485 times:
I joined the Army when I was 17 out of a sense of obligation and duty to the country into which I was born, a country whose soldiers saved the lives of my mother and her family, and defended the constitution which forms the basis of our society.
I'd been fortunate enough to do a good bit of travelling throughout the world during my childhood, and had seen the differences between what we had and what most others had. I'd seen the wall in Berlin, and I'd seen the conditions in thirdworld countries, and I was grateful to have been born here. I saw it as my duty to do my bit to defend my home and that constitution which guarantees the preservation of my rights.
I hope that I served honorably and ably enough, and I know that I stand ready to do what is necessary in the future should the need arise.
A part of me always wanted to give something back. I initially didn't wan't anything to do with the military, as I couldn't fly for them, due to my eyesight. A few years back, I learned that it was possible to fly with my eyesight, so I started investigating it again, ultimately deciding to join the Civil Air Patrol. I'd still get to give something back, but I didn't have to make a long term commitment, and didn't have to uproot my entire life in the process. Now, my service in CAP, while fulfilling, just isn't enough. I'm working with the NM Air National Guard to see what they can offer. I'm also seriously considering the Army as well, as my recent ASVAB scores indicate I have a chance at flying.
Sort of. I have a lot of Uncles on both sides of the family that have served. They joined to serve their country, but also due to lack of job opportunities at the time. Upon discharge, many of them found jobs directly related to what they did in the service. All of them, though, feel they are better people now having served.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested in the money. The health benefits cannot be ignored, as I currently have none. But if I was totally motivated by money, I'd stick to the private sector.
Quoting 767Lover (Thread starter): Was it purely a love for your country and a desire to serve your fellow citizens?
I'd say most of my desire to serve is motivated by love of country and helping fellow citizens. I mean, in CAP I don't get paid at all, and I have yet to regret any of the time, money, and effort I have expended serving in that capacity. If I do end up joining either the Guard or the Army, I see that as an opportunity to give back more than I do now.
ANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
I had decided early on I was going to be in the Army . . . according to my Mother it's something I always talked about as a child . . . .later in life I knew as I grew through Junior High and High School, the Army was what I would do regardless of any other opportunities. I can't say for certain there was any one specific reason. After I got in - about 2 years - I really came to discover an unstoppable sense of pride and fulfillment in my job. I re-enlisted as soon as I was eligible, and went the entire ride . . .
Mike89406 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1545 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2406 times:
I always had a love for Aviation and traveled frequently as a little kid until my father retired with 22 yrs in the Navy. I originally wanted to join after seeing what it did for our family amongst other things it paid the bills,dental, great medical coverage during his time in and continues on for life and it gave him preference in being hired for state/governement civil service jobs.
Lets just say he and my mom were set for life. Unfortunaley my father passed away in 1983.
Growing up as a child I had the privelege of living in Midway Island, Hawaii, Various places in California, Taiwan and flew in to the Phillipine for a 7 day visit all thanks to my dad.
For me it was a family tradition. I also wanted to be part of something bigger so for me serving my country and reaping other benefits as well became a win-win situation. I have been to over 20 some foreign countries, crossed the equator and made some friends for life.
Some of the places I've been to from Aircraft Carriers-
ENGLAND-London, FRANCE-Cannes, Paris, Marseille, ITALY-Naples, Rome, Trieste, GREECE-Corfu, SPAIN-Palma De Mallorca, UAE-Dubai, BAHRAIN-Manama, AUSTRALIA-Perth-Freemantle, TASMANIA-Hobart, Straits of Gibralter, Suez Canal, Adriatic Sea, Equator, INTL date line, Honolulu, Hawaii, ST-Maarten, Ponce, Puerto Rico,
Places that the military has flown me to in line of duty-Seattle-Bahrain UAE via PHL, SNN, Sicily, Norfolk, VA many places in the US.
Tha Navy sent me to schools in Memphis, Pensacola, Chicago area. I did a tour in Brooklyn, NY recruiting and witnessed history in the making Times square during New Years 2000, and 9/11.
The service was like a second mom when I joined I needed discipline and direction and for those who may not know the military was and still is one of the most secure jobs in the US for many years. I'm at amost 16 yrs now 4 to go about to finish my Bachelors Degree from Embry Riddle. Now I have a beautiful family .
Unlike some people I'm not in a combat job per say but I maintain and fix combat jet aircraft for a living and have served on combat vessels. I have much respect for those directly serving in combat.
One thing that I have found in my time working for the government is that a lot of doors and opportunites open up especially where they wouldn't open up by just working in the private sector unless you have plenty of connections, money, and resources.
It's no secret that you don't get rich by being in the service however the benefit package is the best or one of the best I know of anywhere. I can retire at 20yrs with 50% of my last paycheck or the highest 3 yrs at my current rank. Then I could work as a GS employee elsewhere if I choose to do so ane get the credit at for 20 yrs federal govt time. I would have to work 20 yrs as a govt employee and collect a 2nd retierment after that.
I can also choose to become a contractor or work for the private sector.But its up to me how The beauty is I can supplement my military retierment by working in my new employment .
So yeah Job stabilty, and job benefits are big for me. And the miltarys pay scale has became much better over the years. Every since the the start of the yearly pay raises in the 80's they are still giving pay increases every January.
Lastly I feel serving is giving back to my country I feel a sense of pride and teamwork that you wont find in a lot of places.
There are many things I can list that you get from the service too many to name though. The service is not for everybody though however I have ran in to people that have served 4 yrs, 10 yrs etc... at one time and regretted leaving. The most common statement I've heard is " I could be retired already"
The greatest thing is I get to work with or around the greatest combat fighters on a daily basis. Every time I fly commercial the mech in me notices every little detail about the aircraft like the flaps spoilers, and various flight controls, etc...
Eaglekeeper101 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 272 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2358 times:
I had been in college for 2 years and was getting a serious case of burnout. I also wanted to get away from Milwaukee for awhile and see somewhere else, just to feed my wanderlust. Just needed a change of scenery, I guess. So, I joined the USAF.
16 years, 5 assignments, and either visiting or living in 38 different countries later, my wanderlust STILL hasn't been cured yet. Go figure Thank heavens for plentiful TDYs in my career field!
Some days are great. Some days (or months, or entire deployments) suck. However, it's NEVER boring! I don't regret joining, and wouldn't change a thing.
"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens." - Bahá'u'lláh
SaturnVRocket From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2345 times:
Ever since I was a kid I used to have this intense curiosity for what military service would be like. I immigrated over to the US when I was about 9 years old and really fell in love with the US. I ultimately chose the Air Force because I have loved airplanes since before I could talk.
As to what finally made me enlist? Well it was a "perfect storm" of events that led me to get off my lazy ass and do it. First, I really loved my country. Second, the benefits were really, really nice. Third, I was in a bad situation with my ex-girlfriend (we were together at the time) and found my life had really stagnated and I was falling down a nasty hole of debt. And the final factor? I woke up one morning to a phone call from my sister and she asked me if I had seen the news. I said I hadn't, and she proceeded to tell me that two commercial airliners had crashed into the world trade centers, one had hit the pentagon, and another one was supposedly on its way to the white house. The next day I was at the recruiter's office.
Halls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
Quoting 767Lover (Thread starter): So my question is, what made you decide to do military service? Was it a family tradition? Was it a financial decision? Was it purely a love for your country and a desire to serve your fellow citizens?
My back yard growing up was a Naval Air Station (explains why I am an Anetter), and I was a US Naval Sea Cadet in high school. As a teenager, I wanted to go to the Naval Academy and be a carrier pilot, but when you are third alternate in your Congressional district, you need a backup plan.
Mine was either a NROTC scholarship to UCLA, or the Coast Guard Academy. Faced with the reality of living at home and being a commuter student in Westwood, I chose New London, knowing very little about the Coast Guard.
My first summer hooked me - specifically, the two weeks I spent on Eagle. It was magnificent, climbing the rigging at 1 am to reef the mains because a storm was brewing. The next three summers were likewise spent afloat on a variety of cutters. Add to this mix some truly inspiring officer and enlisted instructors at the Academy, who instilled a love of service and devotion to duty, made the decision to stay an easy one.
Earning my command at sea pin during my second tour afloat, and having the Coast Guard send me to law school didn't hurt.
So I guess you can say it was a mix - the CG provided appropriate financial incentives, but in the end, I came to love the mission and the people I worked with. There is a special bond shared by people who put country and their fellow citizens ahead of their own self interests, and I don't regret in the least my decision.
GOCAPS16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4392 posts, RR: 18
Reply 13, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2303 times:
I signed up when I was entering my senior year in 2001 with my father on my side, who retired from the Pentagon with the Army. Talked with my recruiter, took the ASVAB in Washington DC and picked an guareenteed job in the aviation field. My reasons were: education, seeing the world, work experience, good enlisted to officer programs, and of course, serving my country. Then a few months later, 9/11 happened a mile away from where i lived near the Pentagon, and that really motivated and hyped me up to go. Guess I picked the right time to join the military. I was shipped to basic training 3 days after my HS graduation in 2002 and I've been in ever since.
SIX T'S!......TURN. TIME. TWIST. THROTTLE. TALK. TRACK.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7458 posts, RR: 49
Reply 14, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2271 times:
Well back in 1990, I was in college at the time, and really felt I was just wasting time sitting in lectures. I had talked to the recruiters a year before, Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps, had all called once or twice, but at that time didn't seriously consider it. But then I was just accepted to college and felt I didn't need it. A year goes by and i'm in my sophmore year and at that point I just felt I had better things to do. I could always go back to college later. So I decided I was going to contact the Navy and the Air Force and see if the aircrew positions I asked about were still open. The Air Force didn't have anything open except for medavac out of Ramstien and Scott AFB. The Navy had several, P-3 IFT ( AQ, AF,AW) H-3/H-60 Aircrew/SAR(AW), C-130 with various source ratings (ABE, AD, AE, HM, AD, AT etc..). I chose P-3 IFT as an AQ and garaunteed a slot for NTC San Diego in the spring of 1991. Best thing I could've done. I enjoy serving today and feel I made the right choice, even though I was switched involuntarily from P-3's to C-130's in aircrew school. But that's the breaks. Still made the right choice.
Well, the result of me joining the military (I'm a volunteer/reservist) is that I'm more confident now than I ever have been. I have also earned alot of respect from the guys and girls at my regular job, on the railway, plus from my family as well.
The military training helps me deal with situations I can encounter in real life, meaning that I know how to react, and compose myself accordingly. Also I can keep fit by following a regular physical training routine, I get to travel alot, and I have made alot of great friends too.
Quoting 767Lover (Thread starter): Was it purely a love for your country and a desire to serve your fellow citizens?
I am proud to wear the uniform to be honest, and I will certainly do my duty where and when i'm needed.
Lobster From Germany, joined Oct 2008, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (7 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2227 times:
When I graduated high school, my dad kept telling me I should enlist in the Army like he did. Only problem was at the time I had no desire to at all. Fast forward five years and I watched Black Hawk Down, picked up some books on the Rangers, decided that it sounded like fun, though I was in no physical shape to be a Ranger. I did start thinking about joining the Army though. A couple years later, I finally decided that I was bored, wanted to serve my country, and thought I'd make a good combat medic. So, one day I went down the recruiter, next thing I know I'm at MEPS, signing a contract, and swearing in. I didn't go active because I had a good job at the time, but things have changed now, and I'm actually thinking about switching from the Guard to Active. Joining the Army was BY FAR the best decision of my life and I've loved everyday I've been a part of it. Even those cold, wet, shitty ass days down at Fort Knox. Good times.
Yup, I have quite fond memories of those F*#@kers!! Our DS's introduced us to heartbreak and Poorman Range Rd. Our final 20K ruck we did all of them. Can't say I liked it at the time, but it's sure fun to look back on.
Sprout5199 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1862 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (7 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2045 times:
Hmm, Why I joined the Navy?
1. Didn't really want to go to college. After 12 years in school, another 4 didn't sit well with me.
2. Family tradition, My dad and uncle were in the Navy(My uncle had a escort carrier sink from underneath him in WWII.)And a uncle on my mom's side was a waist gunner on a B-24 in WWII,and was a guest of the German Govt after he was shot down. My sister was in the Marines. It sort of runs in the family. Two of my nephews served also,one in the Marines, the other in the Army in Iraq as I type this with the 101st.
3. Duty to country
4. Learn a trade--Electronics Technician
5. See the world
I would do it again in a heart beat but this time when they come to my ship and ask if I want to go to canoe U. I won't turn them down Only regret that I have.
Dan in Jupiter
: Men Always RIding In Navy Equipment Come to think of it Flyboys (Air Force) are taking the Army whever they need to go just like the Navy takes the M
: I joined because I hated my dad and wanted to get as far from him as possible, as fast as possible and at my own expense didn't want his help in anyth
: I asked for Guam out of training - and got it - fantastic place - had a great time. Of course I was in a squadron and able to get away from the islan
: I was a Junior in college (Geology major) and found myself very bored and dis-interested. I always liked aviation and Air Traffic Control seemed fun a
: Did you ever complete your major? It seems that a degree is something needed for life these days.
: No. I am a controller for the FAA. My background/experience from the Navy, as an ATC'er at NHZ, is the reason I was hired. BTW, my parents are now fi