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BBC: Italian Mafia Makes 120 Billion In Revenues  
User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2938 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7057413.stm

Unfreaking belivable. And I thought the Mexico was the screwed up country with corruption....


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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 5 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

Are there any italians here on the board that can inform us more on this situtation??? Is it really that bad or is an exagerration of the media ???


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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

The last ones who fought off the Cosa Nostra was the fascists under "Il Duce", CN co-operated with the allied forces
during WW2.
No, I´m not Italian nor live in Italy.


User currently offlineNorlander From Faroe Islands, joined Sep 2007, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Quoting Alessandro (Reply 2):

I think this guy's legacy disagrees with you



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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Now why dosen't the govt take tougher measures against the mafia or are they so well armed that any official who take a hard line against them would be assasinated ???


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User currently offlineRacingGreen07 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 4):
Now why dosen't the govt take tougher measures against the mafia or are they so well armed that any official who take a hard line against them would be assasinated ???

The question is HOW does a government control an empire that has expanded so huge!? 120 billion is a whole lotta money. It's just way out of control in my opinion.....

Regards.


User currently offlineCupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 837 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1365 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 4):
Now why dosen't the govt take tougher measures against the mafia or are they so well armed that any official who take a hard line against them would be assasinated ???

OK The Mafia in Italy isnt Tony Soprano and Philly Leotardo.

sure these sort of organised criminals exist. This problem is more to do with the deep seated corruption that has infiltrated basically every organisation (even the football referrees) in the country.

The government cant take itself on!

Short of a brutal dictatorship, the Mafia is here to stay.

I have a relative who owns a cigarette shop in a small village outside of Palermo. Apart from having his cigarettes hijacked often, he pays a regular monthly sum. He didnt want to say how much so I dont know.

I am pleased for Italy that this article has been so widely published. Hopefully those in the EU who see Italy as a drag on the region can see the real reasons why.

I have been to Italy many times, and have many connections to it. I would love to live there, but wouldn't



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User currently offlineRacingGreen07 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

Quoting CupraIbiza (Reply 6):


sure these sort of organised criminals exist. This problem is more to do with the deep seated corruption that has infiltrated basically every organisation (even the football referrees) in the country.

The government cant take itself on!

Short of a brutal dictatorship, the Mafia is here to stay.

The first paragraph makes it sound like some sort of disease


User currently offlineRammstein From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1333 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 1):
Are there any italians here on the board that can inform us more on this situtation

120 Billions? Yikes! Yesterday I received the montly payment from the companies I "control", seems like I have to ask more next time.

(yes, I'm joking)


User currently offlineCupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 837 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 7):
The first paragraph makes it sound like some sort of disease

Actually a disease is quite an apt description.



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User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

"In five years the family will be completely legitimate" Michale Corleone.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14127 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

There are basically three main organisations in Italian organised crime:
The Sicilian Mafia, which started as a self-defense organisation of peasants against abusive aristocrats centuriers ago and is organised in a strictly hierarchical way, with a top boss and ranks beneath him, the Napolitani Camorra, which consists of independent smaller gangs, organised by trade (smugglung, pimping, gambling, drug pushing) acc. to neighbourhood and the Calabrian 'ndragheta (Spelling?) which is organised in accordance with family lines. All groups are extremely difficult to infiltrate, since in many cases everybody knows everybody from a young age or belongs to the same family.
"Traitors" are ostracized in the whole region and treaterned with death.

Jan


User currently offlineCupraIbiza From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 837 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

Quoting RJdxer (Reply 10):
"In five years the family will be completely legitimate" Michale Corleone.

Godfather 3 is often put down. However I think it sheds some light on the seedy world of Italian politics. I highly recommend watching it. Just fast forward any early scence with Andy Garcia or any scene at all with Sofia Coppola

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 11):
Calabrian 'ndragheta (Spelling?) which

'ndrangheta



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User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 5):
The question is HOW does a government control an empire that has expanded so huge!? 120 billion is a whole lotta money

Since so much activity seems to be concentrated in Sicily, as a show of force the govt can send in the military. If the number of people caught in the crossfire inceases or if foreigners are targeted I could see the Italian army temporary occupying certain regions and declaring temporary martial law.....



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User currently offlineRacingGreen07 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1263 times:

Quoting Alberchico (Reply 13):
Since so much activity seems to be concentrated in Sicily, as a show of force the govt can send in the military. If the number of people caught in the crossfire inceases or if foreigners are targeted I could see the Italian army temporary occupying certain regions and declaring temporary martial law.....

The army is an option. However CupraIbiza implies that the majority of the government is infiltrated with corruption and mafioso. So I doubt the mafia would let the government take such action.

If only eh?

Kind Regards.


User currently offlineAlberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2938 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (7 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1219 times:

Quoting RacingGreen07 (Reply 14):
. So I doubt the mafia would let the government take such action.

All it would take is a high profile killing or some innocent foreigners caught in the crossfire.......



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