RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4148 posts, RR: 52 Posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1938 times:
According to Lion air's history on the following page, they celebrated their 3rd anniversary in 2004 by holding a Mass circumcision of 1500 children http://www.lionair.co.id/profile_history.htm scroll down to achievments
Lion Air celebrated the third anniversary by holding
a mass circumcision for more than 1500 kids lived around Jakarta
area at Taman Mini Indonesia Indah.
I wonder if this is a usual way to celebrate an important event in Indonesia .....
[Edited 2007-11-01 05:31:38]
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Zak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1986 posts, RR: 10 Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
well to me it sounds like a political and not civil aviation thing, to some people its a celebration, to others the mutilation of the genitals of children
BuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2511 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Thread starter): According to Lion air's history on the following page, they celebrated their 3rd anniversary in 2004 by holding a Mass circumcision of 1500 children
Well they have do something new to stand out then? At least they didn't slaughter any animals.... just wait until they have serious engine maintenance issues (as Nepal Airlines had).
PanAm1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 183 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1636 times:
Lion Air... proving once again they are a... chip off the old block.
777way From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2005, 2444 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1586 times:
Quoting Zak (Reply 1): well to me it sounds like a political and not civil aviation thing, to some people its a celebration, to others the mutilation of the genitals of children
Quoting Pilotdude09 (Reply 4): Unless there is a problem with it, why chop it off. Awful awful thing for any child to have to go through.
It is a fundamental religious requirement mostly related to hygiene, I think its the same for Jews and as pointed out it helps in reducing the risk of some diseases.
Afterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 762 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1585 times:
In Indonesia, when large companies celebrate their anniversaries, as their contributions to the society, they usually do charitable things like donating books or clothes to orphanages, giving free health checks to people in need, or doing free circumcision to poor and orphan boys.
Indonesia is a muslim country. In fact, it is the largest muslim country in the world. And it is obligatory (some says it's highly recommended) for adult muslim men to be circumcised. Moreover, in Indonesia, a lot of non-muslim men are also circumcised too.
ME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13472 posts, RR: 35 Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
Quoting Zak (Reply 1): sounds like a political and not civil aviation thing, to some people its a celebration, to others the mutilation of the genitals of children
I do NOT see anything political, it is a civil aviation thing --- and it is NOT a "mutilation" but the circumcision, and whether this is done at age 9 or 10 or 11 does not really matter.
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Zak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1986 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1472 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 7): It is a fundamental religious requirement mostly related to hygiene, I think its the same for Jews and as pointed out it helps in reducing the risk of some diseases.
its a religious requirement indeed, but that does not implicitly mean it objectively makes sense.
Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 9): I do NOT see anything political, it is a civil aviation thing --- and it is NOT a "mutilation" but the circumcision, and whether this is done at age 9 or 10 or 11 does not really matter.
well of course it is a non aviation related topic, since the celebration and the way has nothing to do with the airline but with the dominant religion within the airlines country. it is a matter of judgement, to some people cutting off a clitoris is a religious thing, to others it is cutting of a part of a penis, to some people it is a mutilation of kids, abuse of a kid in the name of a religion.
767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
Quoting Afterburner (Reply 8): In Indonesia, when large companies celebrate their anniversaries, as their contributions to the society, they usually do charitable things like donating books or clothes to orphanages, giving free health checks to people in need, or doing free circumcision to poor and orphan boys.
I have heard of this being done in the Philippines as well.
Miamiair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1438 times:
Quoting RootsAir (Reply 13): I was circumcised at birth so luckily I don't remeber that pain.... and most girls say they prefer when a guy has undergone the operation.......
LAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 7 Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1379 times:
Quoting 777way (Reply 7): It is a fundamental religious requirement mostly related to hygiene, I think its the same for Jews and as pointed out it helps in reducing the risk of some diseases.
Correct
Quoting Toast (Reply 16): It is a fundamental religious requirement mostly related to hygiene, I think its the same for Jews and as pointed out it helps in reducing the risk of some diseases.
Brings back Memories , There was a classic episode on South Park when Kyle's brother was going to get circumcised.
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RootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4148 posts, RR: 52 Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1348 times:
Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 18): Brings back Memories Big grin, There was a classic episode on South Park when Kyle's brother was going to get circumcised.
The name of theepisode was "Ike's wee wee" orginally aired in June 1998
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PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 8199 posts, RR: 66 Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1305 times:
Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 23): We could talk about my recent vasectomy!
Talk about worry free sex from this point forward!
You hope
I know cultures are different across the world, but whether you accept it as being correct or not, it's truly odd thing to do in celebration of your airline!
Dan
If I Get G-WOWD again I'll Scream....!!!!
25 AndesSMF: Here is something that may explain it, at least from my experience. In LatAm, usually only the wealthier class had their boys circumcised. Therefore,
26 Alberchico: Its been proven that circumcision gives you better sexual performance in bed......
28 Kieron747: Your hand can't prove anything. So are you saying that you had sex both before and after the circumcision? For if you can attest to that then you'd n
29 LAXspotter: damn it your too technical, its been proven, thats all,
30 Kieron747: I am a scientist Sir. Empirical evidence and all that! Kieron
31 Toast: Really? Did you have have sex before being cut? Either you were a latecomer to Islam, or a really precocious infant! I've never heard of any hard evi
32 LAXspotter: IMO its a bunch of crap, unless they took subjects who were uncircumcised, made them have sex, and then circumcize them all in the name of scientific
33 RobertNL070: First off, define "sexual performance in bed". Secondly, where is this proof? This sounds all very subjective. What about inprovements in sexual achi
34 Luv2fly: My thoughts exactly! Maybe it is time to post this.
35 RootsAir: inferiority complex to have girls praise my you know what....gosh ! that's the best inferiority complex in the world....
36 Alberchico: Ask any girl who has had many different partners and they will all say that circumsized men are better in bed.....
37 Zak: it is interesting that none of these oh my god my penis is so much more "performant" when mutilated has put forth any study, not even one of the kind
39 TSS: A few girls gave your wanger a compliment or two after you bought them dinner and a movie? Big deal. Impress me and you've really done something to b
40 AeroWesty: I wondered that as well. What makes an event that happened in 2004 noteworthy?
41 DavestanKSAN: Perhaps this snippit caught the OP's eye. Dave
42 RootsAir: Its just to state out that this is a pretty random way of celebrating an anniversary and wanted to know if this is normal in Indonesia . I wonder how
44 AeroWesty: I'm sure if you ask them nicely, they'll let you do some of the cutting on their 10th, with your doctor's license and all.
45 Tugger: Nobody here has mentioned if the circumcision included girls. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article and I just don't know what the customs are.
46 ME AVN FAN: Out of the context, I dare say that it quite obviously was boys and NO girls -
47 Tugger: Why do you say that? Everything I could find said "kids" and not boys. General practice is to say "boys" if its all one gender (or girls if its all g
48 ME AVN FAN: Very simple. Because A) the "social" circumcision" is NOT about girls but about boys, B) the religious "circumcision" is about boys, the one of girls
49 Tugger: Thanks soo much ME AVN FAN! That is good news, being that I have never heard of a "social circumcision" I didn't understand what it meant (and knowin
50 Kunoichi: I don't know what the hell I'm doing here, but... Why? It makes sense. Uncircumcised guys are more sensitive than circumsiced (seeing that they're sub
51 ME AVN FAN: after circumcision you can piss for far wider distances than those who either are NOT circumcised or were so at birth, which is at least amusing, whe
52 LAXspotter: I guess you had experiences from both
54 Luv2cattlecall: According to the AMA, only 54% of docs in the USA use anesthesia for the procedure...and even when they do, many times it's just EMLA so it's not goin
55 ME AVN FAN: which is bad, and ought to be improved. It however is important anyway to realize that the healing process takes many rather painful weeks. And if yo
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