Sponsor Message:
Non Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Shades Of John Kerry Anyone?  
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1552 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/02/obama.missed.votes/index.html

Sen. Barack Obama has missed the most votes of any Democratic presidential hopeful in the Senate over the last two months, including a vote on an Iran resolution he has blasted Sen. Hillary Clinton for supporting.


Sen. Barack Obama makes a campaign stop at Iowa State University on Saturday.

The Illinois Democrat has missed nearly 80 percent of all votes since September.

. . . .
.
.
.

Obama missed a vote on a resolution that declared the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite part of the Iranian military, a terrorist organization. He has criticized Clinton for voting for it, saying it would give President Bush a "blank check" to invade Iran.


Nothing personal against Sen Obama either way - my vote isn't going to him anyway - nor to Madame Hillary - but interesting how he can blast away at Sen Clinton and miss the boat himself.

Politics . . . ain't it grand!

33 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 1, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1522 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Politics . . . ain't it grand!

HaHa! Ain't it the truth.
And should Hillary get the nomination, Obami-Wan Kenobi will be her best friend hoping for a cabinet post.

Here's a somewhat related funny story...

A Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced
that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have
him out looking for work in six weeks."

A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out
of one person put it in another, and have him out looking for work in
four weeks."

A British doctor says, "In my country medicine is so advanced
that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and
have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."

The American doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys
are way behind. We are about to take a woman with no brains, send her to
Washington where she will become President, and then half the country
will be out looking for work."



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7263 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1506 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

cue Falcon84 please.

 duck 

 rotfl 


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1465 times:

Well he obviously had the time to dance around like a jackass on Ellen DeGeneres' show. Interesting.




-NWA742


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1425 times:

Quoting FXramper (Reply 2):
cue Falcon84 please.

He likes Bill Richardson of NM I thought. I believe you are actually looking for Superfly to come and defend this away.

[Edited 2007-11-04 15:15:59]

User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

I think this is definitely one part of our legislative system that needs to be rehauled. Voting should be mandatory.

User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7408 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1375 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Politics . . . ain't it grand!

This is the senatorial experiance we keep hearing about? He seems to have a lot of experience in skipping work.



Made from jets!
User currently offlineFXramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7263 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1370 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 4):
He likes Bill Richardson of NM I thought

Hell, I like Wild Bill. Would enjoy seeing him be the next president. Every corner has their prize fighter though. . .

 box 

Hillary will be the next president. Barack is gonna take the VP nod and be groomed for eight years.

Sad, but true.

 twocents 


User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

" .. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is the only presidential candidate in Congress to have missed a major vote on the Iraq war this year, and his absences are not sitting well with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.). .. "

Link

" .. If McCain misses the next three votes -- the $2.9 trillion fiscal 2008 budget is likely to be voted on this afternoon -- he will officially have been absent for 50 percent of the more than 170 roll calls held in the chamber so far in the 110th Congress. .. "

Link

" .. Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan., has been playing an awful lot of hooky these days. Last month, he missed more than half of his Senate roll call votes, according to AbsentCongress.org, a Web site launched Thursday that tracks senatorial absenteeism.

Brownback showed up 48 percent of the time. As a presidential hopeful, he probably has his hands full. Yet rival senators who are also moonlighting as '08 contenders have higher attendance records -- though the campaign season remains young. .. "


Link

" .. CNN reported on Obama's missed Senate votes, but ignored McCain's .. "

Link

" .. Leading the 110th Congress in absences is Republican Senator John McCain, who has managed to miss a staggering 52 percent of votes since Congress took session in January. This means that McCain was absent for 206 of the 396 votes cast this session. Not far behind are Democratic Senators Christopher Dodd and Barack Obama, missing 32.6 percent and 31.8 percent respectively, while Hillary Clinton rounds out the group of presidential hopefuls with a lean 16.2 percent of votes missed .. "

Link



Blank.
User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12099 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1349 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting ANCFlyer (Thread starter):
Politics . . . ain't it grand!

Myself if your going to run for a different job you should have to give up the one you currently have. I mean in what other industry could you take time from your job and still keep it mind you, all the while you are out trying to get another job other then the one you currently have......



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Quoting KevinL1011 (Reply 1):
Obami-Wan Kenobi will be her best friend hoping for a cabinet post.

Why don't you call him by his name? Barak Obama? Or is somehow making a fool of yourself with such childish names a way to try and make yourself look more clever. Newflash: it f ailed.

Quoting FXramper (Reply 2):
cue Falcon84 please.

Why, as Diamond pointed out later in this thread, it's happening on BOTH sides of the aisle, something Pep didn't point out. Not that I think Pep was trying to be one-sided, to be honest. He's a straight shooter, but this has been going on for YEARS in national politics.

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 5):
I think this is definitely one part of our legislative system that needs to be rehauled. Voting should be mandatory.

Easy way to do that: make Presidential elections publically funded, so candidates don't have to go around the country, like a three-ring circus, raising money. It would eliminate the reach of the ultra-rich and corporate America; it would cut down on this bullshit of the election cycle taking two years, and it would let members spend more time, you know, doing their job? And it might entice better candidates to run, since they won't have to do this dog-and-pony show we see.

Quoting Diamond (Reply 8):

Like I said. This shit happens on all sides. And it needs to be changed.


User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1306 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
something Pep didn't point out. Not that I think Pep was trying to be one-sided, to be honest.

He was just going by the CNN article, which was one-sided.

Did anyone catch Obama on SNL? I didn't, but here is a clip from the beginning at a Halloween Party thrown by Hillary. It is very funny, up until Obama walks in, then it becomes rather dull.



User currently offlineCALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 2221 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Why don't you call him by his name? Barak Obama?

How about his full name, Barack Hussein Obama?



UNITED We Stand
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

Quoting Diamond (Reply 8):

Thanks for that . . . McCain ought to be ashamed as well . . .

That said, I don't see McCain tossing barbs at other Senators/Candidates for missing votes or voting a particular way on any topic having not voted himself . . . therein lies the point of the thread.

If McCain does that, he'll get an e-mail from me . . .

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Not that I think Pep was trying to be one-sided, to be honest. He's a straight shooter, but this has been going on for YEARS in national politics.

Exactly. It goes on everywhere . . . please note I didn't end my Thread Starter with DEMOCTRATIC politics or REPUBLICAN politics - simply Politics.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
make Presidential elections publically funded, so candidates don't have to go around the country, like a three-ring circus, raising money . . . .

. . . . kissing babies, hugging old people, saying bullshit they don't mean and can't possibly make happen, changing their minds on any given issue depending upon which state (or county) they are in . . . . not able to accept gratuities from the uber-rich, no free jet plane rides here and there . . ..

On and On . . . On and On . . .


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1233 times:

"Shades Of John Kerry Anyone?"  sarcastic  Blah! I thought you were auctioning a pair of the Senator's sunglasses. TRAP, that's what I gotta say! Thoroughly Rehashing Absurd Politics!

Signed,
The Coz


User currently offlineSKYSERVICE_330 From Canada, joined Sep 2000, 1415 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1219 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):

Why don't you call him by his name? Barak Obama?



Quoting CALTECH (Reply 12):
How about his full name, Barack Hussein Obama?

I would guess that the Democrats, or those on the left, would be hesitant at employing his middle name when talking about Obama. Unfortunately, in all democracies (with the US being no exception), there are huge segments of uninformed voters who base voting decisions on irrational measures (a candidates middle name) or single-issues (his middle name). In this case, these uninformed voters would not vote for Obama, not necessarily because of his positions, but simply because he shares a name with the former Iraqi leader. By not employing his middle name or drawing attention to it, they are trying to keep these uninformed voters within their reach, hoping to gain (or lose) their vote based on something else.

On the opposite side, this is a weakness that the Republicans and the right could exploit if they wished. They can make an issue of his middle name and try to appeal to these voters and encourage them to vote Republican so they don't support "the guy with the same name as Saddam."

Its unfortunate that politics plays out in this way, that attention will be paid to a persons middle name as opposed to their policy positions. Unfortunately, in politics, votes count and either side must do whatever possible to retain them or gain them.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21565 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 12):
How about his full name, Barack Hussein Obama?

That's fine too.

Unless, of course, you're trying to make a connection between him and Saddam.  Yeah sure

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineSKYSERVICE_330 From Canada, joined Sep 2000, 1415 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 16):
make a connection between him and Saddam.

A strategy the Republicans could employ, if they wished, to appeal to those voters who can be captured by the connection. A rather dishonest and low-brow strategy in my opinion, but nonetheless a way to get votes. Challenge someone on what they stand for, not their middle name.


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

To be fair to all presidential candidates from the US Senate this crazy two year presidential campaign is requiring all involved to be away from Washington to raise money, take part in oh hum debates, kiss ass in Iowa and New Hampshire etc. The election process that allows for the non-stop campaigning (McCain/Clinton been at it since the day after the Nov 2000 election) must be revisited/reformed.

User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3503 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Quoting CALTECH (Reply 12):
How about his full name, Barack Hussein Obama?

Your unabashed xenophobia never ceases to amaze me. Do you make a point to bring this up in every Obama-related thread in non-av?



Next Flight: 9/17 BFI-BFI
User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21565 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Reply 17):
A strategy the Republicans could employ, if they wished, to appeal to those voters who can be captured by the connection.

A strategy some have employed. Fortunately, it's only a small minority.

Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Reply 17):
A rather dishonest and low-brow strategy in my opinion

 checkmark 

Quoting AirCop (Reply 18):
To be fair to all presidential candidates from the US Senate this crazy two year presidential campaign is requiring all involved to be away from Washington to raise money, take part in oh hum debates, kiss ass in Iowa and New Hampshire etc.

 checkmark  I can't criticize Obama too much for doing what needs to be done to win the presidency. If people don't want their elected representatives to take so much time off in order to campaign, then make the campaigns shorter.

-Mir



7 billion, one nation, imagination...it's a beautiful day
User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1151 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 19):
Do you make a point to bring this up in every Obama-related

Oh not not this again, every single time Obama is mentioned this guy has to bring that up. So what, if his name was billy bob huckabee, would you feel any better? People like you have to be concerned about his middle name, his religion, his ethnicity, his appearance, what kind of clothing he wears, what car he drives, and other nonsensical bullshit. Lets get to the issues, This is the 21st century, this BS needs to end.



"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineDiamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

I'll bet Guliani and Romney have missed a lot of votes too.

Oh, wait . . .



Blank.
User currently offlineKevinL1011 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 2964 posts, RR: 48
Reply 23, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 10):
Like I said. This shit happens on all sides. And it needs to be changed.

It's very much like this forum. One user posts something another doesn't agree with and the mud starts flying. Change should begin within ourselves before we criticize others.



474218, Carl, You will be missed.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 21):
People like you have to be concerned about his middle name, his religion, his ethnicity, his appearance, what kind of clothing he wears, what car he drives, and other nonsensical bullshit.

You know - brings an interesting point to mind here LAX . . .

THis thread:

Obama: Not CinC Material (I'd post a link except A-Net is still dicked up in that regard for some of us - are you listening DM???)

You don't think that when Sen Obama is standing there with his hands at his waist - rather than over his heart as traditional, pride and honor dictate, that he's not thinking the same damn thing about every single person he's standing in front of?

He's trying to appeal to every single voter - he may WANT to put his hand over his heart each time, but this man is trying to get elected PotUS. He may NOT want to put his hand over his heart each time, but this man is trying to get elected PotUS.

Now, I quite agree, his middle name - or first name, last name, cousins name, mother's name - means zippo. But you know, speaking of nonsensical bullshit . . . why do these politicians (all of them) try so hard at . . .

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13):
kissing babies, hugging old people, saying bullshit they don't mean and can't possibly make happen, changing their minds on any given issue depending upon which state (or county) they are in . . . . not able to accept gratuities from the uber-rich, no free jet plane rides here and there . . ..

. . . and why does this make Sen Obama or any other politician any damn different than CalTech?

It doesn't.

Have a great day.


25 SKYSERVICE_330 : I think you've hit it on the head ANCFlyer. Whether it's the right employing Obama's middle name or a politician of any stripe kissing babies or shaki
26 Post contains images LAXspotter : agreed flipflopping and sucking up to the masses, that is a sign of the Politican
27 Slider : Absolutely...it should be mandatory. All stakes, after all, if they're going to galavant around getting paid for doing nothing, they should relinquis
28 Allstarflyer : Does Dick Cheney have any decision-making authority still with Haliburton?
29 Diamond : Because Americans voters have turned every word, action and gesture into a litmus test. The lead story for a week about two months ago was Obama's de
30 Post contains images ANCFlyer : It's Hillary or some Republican yet to be fettered out . . . Let go get Hillary instead. Agreed . . . Caveat: Untentional bash of Sen Obama starting
31 AirCop : I would think one leaves the senate to take a cabinet position when a senator is ready to step down. I actually believe there is more perks as a sena
32 Post contains images ANCFlyer : Not my point though. Today he's beating Sen Clinton down, tomorrow - if he got elected - he'd put her in the Cabinet. It tracks with my point being t
33 AirCop : If their lips are moving...
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
John Kerry's Latest Brilliant Comments Part 2 posted Sun Nov 5 2006 22:39:57 by Diamond
John Kerry's Latest Brilliant Comments posted Tue Oct 31 2006 19:27:58 by Jcs17
John Kerry Plays Politics With North Korea posted Sun Oct 15 2006 17:09:28 by AerospaceFan
Now...John Kerry's Hotel Rider posted Mon Mar 27 2006 22:56:02 by DeltaGator
I Met John Kerry Tonight posted Wed Mar 1 2006 06:30:11 by RJpieces
25th Anniversary Of The Death Of John Lennon posted Thu Dec 8 2005 09:58:08 by Atco2b
What Do You Think Of John McCain? posted Thu Oct 20 2005 17:03:56 by DrDeke
Project Longface John Kerry Waffle Head posted Mon Nov 8 2004 17:39:27 by Techrep
I Tip My Hat To John Kerry posted Wed Nov 3 2004 18:06:56 by Cwapilot
John Kerry's Job Application posted Mon Nov 1 2004 22:44:19 by PHLBOS