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Phoenix UFO Lights Getting More Credible  
User currently offlineJunction From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 778 posts, RR: 0
Posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1580 times:

Former AZ governor really getting serious about this stuff...

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/science...simington.ufocommentary/index.html

I always get so confused by this Phoenix Lights stuff. How could military flairs falling behind the Estrella Mountains 30 miles to the southwest of Phoenix be confused with a big black “V” coming in from the north over the Squaw Peak area? Isn’t all this footage indeed the military flairs, and there is nothing showing what these people think is the real UFO? Are people like Symington saying the media footage is in fact what they saw? If so, then they really are crazy.

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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Quoting Junction (Thread starter):
Are people like Symington

Credible and Symington shouldn't be allowed in the same sentence. In case you forgot, he had to resign from the Governor position due to a federal fraud conviction (latter pardon by Clinton), facts that came out in that trial was that Symington was nothing more than a con man which was supported by his record as governor. Guess he must have a book coming out..


User currently offlineAndesSMF From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1523 times:

Quoting AirCop (Reply 1):
Symington was nothing more than a con man which was supported by his record as governor.

Sounds like he made a perfect politician!  biggrin 


User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1514 times:

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 2):
Sounds like he made a perfect politician! biggrin

True, hard to something with his dutch art degree from Harvard in the real world hence politician and married into big money.  banghead 


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

Weren't the PHX lights already dismissed as flares? It's the silent and large 1000-foot flying wing wandering the mid-eastern part of the state that I found facinating.


The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Allright lemme ask a "weird" question. Why is that a lot of people are convinced and are narrow-minded when talking about the possibility of extraterrestrial life. Juding by the fact that the Earth is essentially an insignificant part of the Galaxy which is an insignificant part of the Universe, to put in a more wordly term "we're a grain of sand in the Desert". Isnt the possibility of life in one planet is a distant Galaxy not possible? or are people just ambivalent to acknowledge the possiblity of life based on no concrete evidence to lead that way? Judging by the expanse of the Universe, I think it is quite a good assumption to speculate that life may exist on another planet millions of light years away? and No I dont believe in UFO or Roswell.


"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineAirTranTUS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 5):
and No I dont believe in UFO or Roswell.

Why aren't you being open minded?


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Quoting AirTranTUS (Reply 6):
Why aren't you being open minded?

hahaha, damn I'm a hypocrite  banghead . Well, I think we all need a little bit of concrete evidence, I guess I answered myself. BTW, I think if one looks at the size of the Galaxies and the Universe, we realize how insignificant we're and how the "World's end" wouldnt really mean much in terms of the Galaxy or the Universe.



"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineUmfolozi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

What do you guys think of the "alien interview" video clip?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-iK8Jr0nwQ


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

I wish there are some Aliens out there  pray  . I hope they assert their dominance over the entire World  Big grin


"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 9):
I wish there are some Aliens out there pray . I hope they assert their dominance over the entire World Big grin

Translation: "I'm really looking forward to a good probing."  Wink


User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10938 posts, RR: 37
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

UFO is Unidentified Flying Object.
They don't have to be coming from outer space. They can be man made objects that we don't recognize as such.
I see many "UFOs" unidentified flying objects. Some are very bright at times. I don't think they are from outer space.
I think the air force might be testing some secret equipment at times without us knowing about it.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 5):
Why is that a lot of people are convinced and are narrow-minded when talking about the possibility of extraterrestrial life.

It isn't really a question of being narrow-minded, and certainly not when it comes to the question of the existence of extra-terrestrial life itself. But when it comes to the issue of mysterious lights being either flares, aircraft, weather balloons or little green men from outer space who just happen to be spending a hell of a lot of time visiting backwaters of the US....Occam's Razor gives us the answer.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 10):
"I'm really looking forward to a good probing."

Southpark eh  Wink

Quoting Banco (Reply 12):
It isn't really a question of being narrow-minded

yes, I know wrong choice of words, I'd say a question of substantial evidence to suggest otherwise



"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 7):
damn I'm a hypocrite

Slow but trainable afterall eh  duck  wink 

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 10):
Quoting LAXspotter (Reply 9):
I wish there are some Aliens out there pray . I hope they assert their dominance over the entire World Big grin

Translation: "I'm really looking forward to a good probing."

 rotfl  rotfl  rotfl 

Hey . . . anyone notice Blackbird hasn't posted in a bit of a while?

Mothership intervention?

 scratchchin 


User currently offlineLAXspotter From India, joined Jan 2007, 3650 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1173 times:

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 14):
Slow but trainable afterall eh

yeah, that logic came back to haunt me. I guess I'm just a little bit more aware of the magnitude of the Universe, but Like everyone else I need more concrete evidence, instead of conspiracy theories. I dont believe for one second of those who claim to have encountered Aliens, it just doesnt make sense.



"Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel" Samuel Johnson
User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1147 times:

Here is where I get pounded (and not in a good way ) for my admittance to this and may lose credibility with others (I am good with it, if it comes to that). I saw what I saw.

I live in PHX and saw the lights. I was travelling down the Squaw Peak (AZ 51). We actually pulled over on the shoulder to get a better view, they were that out of the ordinary. These lights were not in the area of a normal arrival or departure path for Sky Harbor. The notion that they were flares is in dispute. Flares dissipate and change in intensity and altitude. These did not.

For those here who did not see them personally, to say otherwise and tell me different, all I can say is you were not there.

The news here went wild with stories and did possible explanations for them. 'Experts' tried to explain the lights, much to the denial of most. It still didn't offer why and/or how they did what they did.

Personally, I do not think we are alone. To think so is extremely egocentric. The universe is too big, too unexplored to know for certain otherwise.

As for Symington, he is not exactly the pillar of integrity or honesty. I'd rather rely on the accounts from the thousands of others who saw them that night. He now comes out to talk about it. 10 years later. Give me a break.

[Edited 2007-11-11 19:34:57]


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