Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3922 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 725 times:
MLB has started giving out it's post season awards. Here are the winners so far..........
AL Rookie of the Year - Dustin Pedroia (Boston Red Sox)
NL Rookie of the Year - Ryan Braun (Milwaukee Brewers)
AL Cy Young Award - C.C. Sabathia (Cleveland Indians)
AL Gold glove award - Ichiro Suzuki (OF), Torii Hunter (OF), Grady Sizemore (OF), Adrian Beltre (3B), Orlando Cabrera (SS), Placido Polanco (2B), Kevin Youkilis (1B), Ivan Rodriguez (C), Johan Santana (P)
NL Gold Glove Award - David Wright (3B), Carlos Beltran (OF), Orlando Hudson (2B), Aaron Rowand (OF), Andruw Jones (OF), Jeff Francouer (OF), Russell Martin (C), Derrek Lee (1B), Jimmy Rollins (SS), Greg Maddux (P)
The rest of the awards will be given out this week.
As much as I pushed that Beckett would win, I was reminded today that Sabathia didn't have the run support that Beckett did. I'm glad, though, on a separate note, that a BoSox pitcher didn't win the award.
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 722 times:
The only one that I believe shouldn't be on the list is Andruw Jones, he's living on his past. Speaking of past, Greg Maddux is probably going to collect Golden Glove Awards after he retires, how many in a row for him now?
Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3922 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 688 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 2): Speaking of past, Greg Maddux is probably going to collect Golden Glove Awards after he retires, how many in a row for him now?
I don't know how many in a row, but he won a total of 17.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 679 times:
Quoting Allstarflyer (Reply 1): I was reminded today that Sabathia didn't have the run support that Beckett did.
And I was reminded today that Sabathia pitched approximately 85 innings against teams with a winning record, and his ERA for those innings was around 3.30. Beckett pitched approximately 118 innnings against teams with a winning record, and his ERA for those innings was around 2.80.
WellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 678 times:
Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 4): And I was reminded today that Sabathia pitched approximately 85 innings against teams with a winning record, and his ERA for those innings was around 3.30. Beckett pitched approximately 118 innnings against teams with a winning record, and his ERA for those innings was around 2.80.
Here goes Chowd Nation again... this time regurgitating manipulated stats they picked up from the local sports radio windbags. I was unaware "ERA vs. Teams With Winning Records" is criteria for the Cy Young award. You were 'reminded' as if you knew this in the first place - do you keep this stuff in a spreadsheet on your computer?
The award could have easily gone to either Sabathia or Beckett. Looking at the unmanipulated stats, both are pretty much even.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 669 times:
Quoting WellHung (Reply 5): You were 'reminded' as if you knew this in the first place - do you keep this stuff in a spreadsheet on your computer?
No, I was couching my response in the form of what I was quoting. We can't be sure that Allstarflyer knew the Beckett had better run support than CC either.
Quoting WellHung (Reply 5): I was unaware "ERA vs. Teams With Winning Records" is criteria for the Cy Young award.
No, but Quality Starts is a criterion. And I would argue that ERA vs. winning teams is far more significant than quality starts against teams like Kansas City, Tampa Bay, etc.
Quoting WellHung (Reply 5): The award could have easily gone to either Sabathia or Beckett. Looking at the unmanipulated stats, both are pretty much even.
I agree, and I think Sabathia is deserving of the award. As you state, they were pretty much even. Then how come the voting was so lopsided in favor of Sabathia?
Dragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3922 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 655 times:
Two more awards were given out todday.
AL Manager of the Year - Eric Wedge (Cleveland Indians)
NL Manager of the Year - Bob Melvin (Arizona Diamondbacks)
AirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 637 times:
Quoting Dragon-wings (Reply 7): NL Manager of the Year - Bob Melvin (Arizona Diamondbacks)
Took a team with 7 first or second starters to the National League Championship series with no one having a career season. Now to see what he can do with the D-Backs next season or will it just be a one season fluke.
Falcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 622 times:
Quoting WellHung (Reply 5): The award could have easily gone to either Sabathia or Beckett.
Add John Lackey and Fausto Carmona to that list as well. I didn't think Fausto would get it, not in his first full year in the bigs (almost full year, that is), but I could have lived with either of those four getting the award. You can split hairs between C.C. and Beckett, they both had outstanding years.
And kudo's to Eric Wedge for winning the A.L. Manager of the Year. I'm not the biggest Wedge fan in the world, and thinks he doesn't a great job with the pitching staff, but he helps keep the Indians on an even keel. He definitely deserved it.
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