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Amish - What Do You Think Of Them  
User currently offlineAlexEU From Nauru, joined Oct 2007, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

What do you think about Amish people? Any Amish a.netters?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsfVw9xxoNY

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User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

I spent a good deal of time in Lancaster, PA and the surrounding area for a while in 1987-1988, and I tought it was interesting to see Amish living as they do in the midst of modern society. Good, solid people from what I can tell. Other than that, they're people just like us, so I really don't have much more to add.

User currently offlineToast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3568 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
What do you think about Amish people?

The same I think of any people who let religion run their lives - completely  crazy  hypnotized  !

Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Any Amish a.netters?

Highly unlikely. They don't use electricity or any type of engine-powered transportation. A.net can safely apply for ISO 69-666 Certificate (Amish-Free Guaranteed)  duck 


User currently offlineAirfoilsguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

Get ready for a rant


I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY THE HELL OFF OUR ROADS!! THEY DON'T PAY FOR THEM SO THE SHOULD STAY OFF THEM!! Nothing makes the heart race quicker then cresting a hill and seeing one of those damn buggies in the middle of the road going 3 1/2 miles an hour.

Rant over


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3553 times:



Quoting Airfoilsguy (Reply 3):
Get ready for a rant


I THINK THEY SHOULD STAY THE HELL OFF OUR ROADS!! THEY DON'T PAY FOR THEM SO THE SHOULD STAY OFF THEM!! Nothing makes the heart race quicker then cresting a hill and seeing one of those damn buggies in the middle of the road going 3 1/2 miles an hour.

Rant over

Run them over..  Wink

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineRonglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

I don't know much about the Amish other than what I seen on TV. I guess they are much the same as the Mennonites that we have here in Southern Ontario. I think the general impression people have of them is positive - they're seen to be good people with a quaint life style. They get pretty good press.

For myself, I've always thought that if you were to scratch the surface of that impression you'd find the usual intolerance that most religious sects have. I seem to have read that if they don't toe the line they are "shunned" which basically means they get kicked out.

I don't understand how they think they can be nearer to God by living the lifestyle of my great-grandfather.

We tolerate them to be among us. We fought the wars that kept them and us free.

I guess in summary, I don't have a problem with them. But they owe me; I don't owe them.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3523 times:

I've never had a problem with them. Their lifestyle isn't my idea of a good time, but if it works for them I have no issues.

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3511 times:



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 6):

I've never had a problem with them. Their lifestyle isn't my idea of a good time, but if it works for them I have no issues.

What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

It's a difficult one, because you don't want to interfere in a society, but I can't help feeling very uneasy about the kids are not given the option. If they were to reject material things, fine, but why do I suspect that they wouldn't?



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3497 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

I think if you are born into that lifestyle and are taught from day one to fear the modern lifestyle then it doesn't matter to them. The only thing I feel sorry for the kids for is the sexual abuse they supposedly endure at the hands of their male relatives with nothing being done to stop it.

Personally I like to see the buggy's out on the roads around Lancaster, PA and in upstate NY. I have no tolerance for people out on the road in modern cars without a gas pedal (i.e. slow drivers) but I do have a lot of tolerance for the Amish buggys, probably because I am an animal lover and wouldn't like to scare or injure a horse!


User currently offlineATCT From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2349 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

I grew up in western PA in the country. There were a few amish farms in the area. I really never cared for their lifestyle but it doesnt hurt me or society any. Let them live that way if they want to. Its not hurting anyone.

ATCT



"The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing." - Walt Disney
User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3483 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

Some do through "rumspringer" although I'm not sure if all of them do. But they do get to leave for a period of time when they are about 16 years old, should they choose.

Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
It's a difficult one

Absolutely.

I personally wouldn't want to interfere with them raising their children. It's probably not what you or I would want, but I'm not sure they'd like what we have either.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3482 times:



Quoting BigOrange (Reply 8):
I think if you are born into that lifestyle and are taught from day one to fear the modern lifestyle then it doesn't matter to them.

No, it probably doesn't. But only because they don't know any better, because it's driven into them from the start. I can't help but think that if they were given the option, they might not be quite so keen to live that kind of life.

I don't know. I can well understand the argument of respecting the freedom of people to live their lives how they see fit, but it just leaves me a little uneasy when it is the children that have that decision made for them. I know that the point will be made that ALL societies do that, and it's true. I just wonder how far it would be tolerated if a new group decided to go down the route the Amish have gone.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3463 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
What about the children though? They don't get offered the choice that you or I do. Is that fair on them?

Then what about Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist etc children. Nobody asks them about their religion. Why should it bother anyone how they raise their children? If someone brought up in the Amish faith want to leave he / she can. Their family may not like it but I'm sure we all know examples of families "shunning" a relative for whatever reason.

I grew up in Lancaster County. I even had a chance to be an extra in the movie "Witness". Unfortunately I had a test at school and wasn't allowed to go to the casting. As a kid I thought they were a bit strange, as a teen I thought what the F*ck??? As an adult I think they should be left alone. They are peaceful, law abiding citizens. Do they believe they are above non-Amish? No, I don't think so. Do they believe they are 100% infallible? Probably not. Do they think their religion / way of life is correct? Yes, probably. But so do Muslims, Baptists, Mormans, etc. Okay, the issue with taxes is a bit annoying but when was the last time you read about an Amish businessman cheating the company out of profits or an Amish run business laying off workers and moving their plant somewhere else to stay "competitive".

Also, they are responsible for lots of cash rolling into the County. If you get annoyed at the buggies on Routes 23 or 30, well the tour buses from Philly, DC and Baltimore are just as bad.

God what I wouldn't give for a nice hot bowl of chicken pot-pie and frosty cold glass of Birch Beer.



A330 man.
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3458 times:



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 12):
Then what about Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Baptist etc children. Nobody asks them about their religion

Precisely. More indoctrination. But that's not one for here.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4917 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

What worries me is the polygamy and abuse of women and children but I guess there are worse offenders...

YOWza



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User currently offlineCgnnrw From Germany, joined May 2005, 1171 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3437 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 13):
Precisely. More indoctrination. But that's not one for here.

Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics? What raising a child to be a vegan? The Amish are just more obvious about it I guess.

Also, many people in the "Old World" forget the Amish like many other religious groups were forced to leave in order to escape repression and persecution at the hands of an "enlightend" Europe and ended up in the "New World".



A330 man.
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3408 times:



Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 15):
Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics?

Really? When was the last time you heard reference to a Republican child? A Marxist child? Yet call them a Christian child or Jewish child and it's acceptable.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3391 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
It's a difficult one, because you don't want to interfere in a society, but I can't help feeling very uneasy about the kids are not given the option.



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 10):
Some do through "rumspringer" although I'm not sure if all of them do. But they do get to leave for a period of time when they are about 16 years old, should they choose.

 checkmark 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumspringa

Yes. There is acutally a good documentary about this time. Some of the kids go out, party, buy cars, work, and then decide to come back. Some of the kids decide not to. The Amish purposely force a time for the child to decide before they are even allowed to be baptised. It is not forceful.

http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/may/amish/

Banco, I know that you are very anti-religious but in all seriousness the Amish are much more open minded about their beliefs than most others. That is why they don't allow themselves to be baptised until they decide as an adult.

Personally, I have alot of respect for the Annabaptist work ethic. I was also very impressed with how they reacted to the school house killing last year. Almost immediately they all forgave the killer. They do as they believe. Also note that they don't actively recruit.


User currently offlineKmh1956 From Bermuda, joined Jun 2005, 3324 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3380 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 14):
What worries me is the polygamy and abuse of women and children but I guess there are worse offenders...

I've never heard of this....where do you get this information from?



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User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3378 times:

The Amish do not have polygamy.

The only ones who still practice polygamy in the US is an offshoot of the Mormons.


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3375 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 11):
No, it probably doesn't. But only because they don't know any better, because it's driven into them from the start. I can't help but think that if they were given the option, they might not be quite so keen to live that kind of life.

There are a million things you could say that about: Vegetarianism. A "no TV" house. I could go on.


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3370 times:



Quoting AlexEU (Thread starter):
Amish - What Do You Think Of Them

Christians - What Do You Think Of Them
Muslims - What Do You Think Of Them
Buddhists - What Do You Think Of Them

Shoe Salesmen - What Do You Think Of Them
Janitors - What Do You Think Of Them
Heterosexuals - What Do You Think Of Them
Humans - What Do You Think Of Them

I don't. They are people just like me who live their own life the way they think is right.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3368 times:



Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 17):
Banco, I know that you are very anti-religious but in all seriousness the Amish are much more open minded about their beliefs than most others

I'm only anti-indoctrination in this instance. As I said earlier, I find this a difficult one, and really didn't mean it to end up in a tit-for-tat exchange on the matter.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineFumanchewd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3362 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 22):
As I said earlier, I find this a difficult one, and really didn't mean it to end up in a tit-for-tat exchange on the matter.

I hear ya.

There once was a woman who was quite begat.
She had three babies named Nat, Pat, and Tat.
She said it was fun in the breeding,
but found it was hell in the feeding
when she saw there was no tit for Tat.


User currently offlineBigOrange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 month 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3352 times:



Quoting Banco (Reply 16):


Quoting Cgnnrw (Reply 15):
Indotrination is not just religion. What about politics?

Really? When was the last time you heard reference to a Republican child? A Marxist child? Yet call them a Christian child or Jewish child and it's acceptable.

You don't hear of Republican children or Marxist children, but they are still indoctrinated with the beliefs of their parents and/or governments!

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 23):
There once was a woman who was quite begat.
She had three babies named Nat, Pat, and Tat.
She said it was fun in the breeding,
but found it was hell in the feeding
when she saw there was no tit for Tat

{ROFL} {ROFL} {ROFL}

Never heard that one before!


25 Post contains images Toast : Looks as if I'll have take upon myself the task of posting the obvious:
26 Nuori5084 : Funniest thing said all week!
27 Post contains links Lobster : Watch to move Devil's Playground. Very interesting on growing up Amish and how they HAVE A CHOICE whether they want to continue to be Amish, or go lea
28 AAce24 : All I can think of is Tim Allen in For Richer or Poorer when I hear Amish.
29 AlexEU : Even i laughed ! I hope there are modern Amish people. I don't have prejudice against certain kind of people, i just wanted to hear your opinions on
30 N74JW : They make good furniture, cheap! I also buy some frsh veggies from their farmers market every couple of weeks. To each is own....
31 AA61Hvy : I think of Wood Harrelson and Randy Quaid in KingPin....
32 Superfly : I think they are good people that keep to themselves and don't bother others. I respect the fact that the Amish don't proselytize, knock on your door,
33 OA260 : Exactly they dont do anyone any harm, I saw a program on TV about them . It was after the tragedy. Whilst their lifestyle is not for me they dont for
34 Go3Team : Like any relegion, you have your devout, and your not so devout. I've been to an Amish farm, where they shipped fertilizer and seeds. It was there, th
35 DeltaMD11 : The supposed indoctrination or lack of choice that some have purported on this thread concerning the Amish is for the most part very introspective/eth
36 Nkops : Love their cooking... Amish food is some of the best food around... We go up to Lancaster county about 3-4 times a year just for the food... oh, and H
37 LAXspotter : Who the Hell are the Amish? Signed the rest of the world Seriously, I have never come across one, theyre just like any "group" of people going about t
38 N74JW : Nice... Go tolerance...
39 LAXspotter : seriously it is, they have their unique way of life, and if they're happy so be it, I'm not "thinking" about the Amish. Whatever makes them happy, I'
40 Post contains images Fumanchewd : Substitute Amish for rural Indians. I like a the Amish. Just making a point.
41 Allstarflyer : Or atheist, agnostic, or even Hare Krishna for that matter. As long as they aren't harmful like Heaven's Gate and the People's Temple, then it's up t
42 N74JW : I hear ya. I can reach the same conclusion when a horse & buggy blocks the road, which can happen if you were to drive up state.
43 Bok269 : I always found the Amish peculiar, but the coverage of the Amish School Massacure left me with an extreme appreciation of their ability to forgive and
44 Slider : I would concur. We are in no position to judge. If anything, I respect them even more now because the omnipresent pressure to conform, adapt or assim
45 Post contains images AlexEU : I guess that most of us here are tolerant towords Amish. I just wanted to see what do Americans and the rest of the world thinks about them. Now, tha
46 SBBRTech : Amish? Are those like even lower-tech Mormons?
47 Bok269 : I completely understand that. I just wish that tolerance could be applied to every group that gets discussed in the Non-Av forum
48 DeltaMD11 : SBBR, The Amish have nothing to do with Mormonism. They are a group of Anabaptists founded in the late 1600s and early 1700s and are of Swiss-German
49 Post contains images LAXspotter : Last I checked no one learns anything from TV or Radio, I heard the Amish read Newspapers BTW, I doubt that many people have heard of the two foundin
50 MadameConcorde : You are right Superfly. The Amish don't seek converts. They are not agressive about their beliefs. They work really hard on their farm land and homest
51 LAXspotter : they dont use any phones, although there is usually a emergency phone in the settlement.
52 DeltaMD11 : Haha LAX touche, point taken.
53 Bok269 : They don't own cars, although I think for long distance travel they will ride in a non-Amish car. They don't have computers or cell phones, only an e
54 LAXspotter : allegedly they will hire a non-amish to drive them to far away places or for important chores which brings me to a question "How the hell can they af
55 Bok269 : Maybe through the sale of their goods and produce? I don't know. Maybe they barter for it (as their products seem to be highly valued)? Maybe they ha
56 DeltaMD11 : Many Amish are business-owners and sell the goods that they make...furniture, wood stoves/piping, canned goods, produce, and other things. A lot of t
57 Post contains images LAXspotter : communists
58 Type-Rated : I know that you can often see Amish on Amtrak trains running CHI-NYC quite a bit. So it seems that they can take trains for long distance travel. Has
59 LAXspotter : I doubt it, I seriously do. Two reasons: They're not Business People and most of their family live in their small communities. However, I've seen Ami
60 F9Animal : The Amish keep to themselves, and they don't chase you around trying to push their beliefs. If we all took some advice from them, perhaps the world wo
61 LAXspotter : They dont try to Influence Politics, and that is the problem with all other "Organized Religion" meddling in Politics.
62 F9Animal : That is 100% true, and that was what I was trying to get out of my keyboard. They are very peaceful. Come to think of it, I kind of admire the Amish.
63 MadameConcorde : Those must be Mennonites. They look very close, they dress the same, the only difference is the colours they wear. The Amish are not supposed to ride
64 LAXspotter : you really did you research. BTW, this was a video on youtube. that essentially is because the Amish are such a small tight-knit geographically isola
65 SBBRTech : Oh, i see. Frankly I don't have anything against people who enjoy living in a bubble harboured in some ancient era. I don't get them, but i can't say
66 Letsgetwet : Most Amish are NOT poor. The land they own is worth millions$. They don't pay for utilities. They buy most of everything they need from each other. Yo
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