KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1754 times:
Every now and then, I get a hair up my ass about wanting to learn a language. I wasn't really into learning Spanish in the classroom back in school, so I'm pretty sure heading down to the local Community College isn't going to be really effective for me either. I've seen the commercials for Rosetta Stone and heard some good things about the program, but before I go and drop a few hundy on the first set of disks, I'd like some more first hand reviews. Anyone here have any
Luv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1656 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
It's decent, but reminds me of Bose: Great marketing for a product that costs more/doesn't do much more than anything else on the market. I picked up a good bit of German using Rosetta stone, but I "borrowed" a copy off of the internet for that. I couldn't imagine spending $300 for it, especially since you have to have the CD in your drive at all times - not on option since I like keeping an extra battery in the optical bay. They do have a 6 month guarantee though, and I've known people who had no problems getting their money back after 5 months with it, and it really won't do much harm to give it a shot.
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Toast From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
I admittedly have no experience with Rosetta Stone. My personal approach to learning languages has always been pen + paper, followed by immersion. To me, successfully learning a language by sitting at a screen is about as likely as learning to paint or to cook well by playing with a mouse and keyboard. I would generally strongly advise against buying language software. RS is over 200 bucks per level. Absolutely outrageous.
Besides, Spanish is way too easy to justify complex courses and arcane explanations. A good dictionary (my recommendation: Oxford Spanish) and a good, intuitive manual (I'd suggest Assimil's "Spanish With Ease") is really all you need to get started. You can learn to pronounce Spanish and read everything correctly in two days flat. I'm not exaggerating, it really is that easy. The grammar is a bit more complicated than in English due to the rich morphology of Spanish verbs, but it still remains one of the most straightforward languages to learn.
Once you have a general idea idea how the language works, you're ready to listen, then to talk. Forget audio courses: the language they present usually bears no resemblance to how people actually speak. You live in the US, so Spanish is widespread and you don't even need to travel. Tune into a Spanish radio station. Get yourself a Mexican girlfriend/mistress/wife and employ some immigrants. Seriously, that is the only way to acquire a working knowledge of the language. Even knowing your entire manual and conjugation tables by heart is no substitute for real-life experience.
Te deseo mucha suerte, and if you have any additional questions, feel free to PM me.
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3424 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
FWIW, my aunt (who admittedly is a linguist, with a major in French, and speaks about 8 languages), learned Russian very well with Rosetta Stone, and highly recommends it. Personally, I've never tried it.
CastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1682 times:
Keep in mind, 'ROC, they have Latin American Spanish and "Spain" Spanish versions. The reason I know this is because the wife has asked about it for XMAS. You can save more by buying volumes 1 and 2 or even more by buying all 3, but all three is $500, and that ain't hay.
Anyone else besides LUV2cattlecall have good/bad recommendations?
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1605 times:
Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 12): Keep in mind, 'ROC, they have Latin American Spanish and "Spain" Spanish versions. The reason I know this is because the wife has asked about it for XMAS. You can save more by buying volumes 1 and 2 or even more by buying all 3, but all three is $500, and that ain't hay.
Bagpiper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1533 times:
I used it to learn French - well, sort of learn it. I wasn't very motivated (school), so I didn't do much of it.
However, it is a great program. It gets the objects and words tied together. While I didn't like using the software (again, school), it seems very well thought out. Go download their free demo, and give it a shot.
Tsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1493 times:
I have heard mixed things about Stone.
If you are going to learn Spanish I say use the program I am using. It is called "Platiquemos". It's based off what the Foreign Service Institute uses to teach Diplomats how to speak another language. It was a big help to me. It cost $35 for the download version. Which is you buy it via pay pal, the owner will send you a download link, once you download it you can either use it at will on your computer OR print out the units one at a time and upload the audio to your Ipod. It uses native Spanish Speakers from a variety of accents and the talking is moderate for you. It focuses on pronunciation from the jump. Check it out! http://www.platiquemos-letstalk.com/
G5ive From El Salvador, joined Oct 2007, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1439 times:
Quoting Toast (Reply 4): Even knowing your entire manual and conjugation tables by heart is no substitute for real-life experience.
You're right about that. I've been trying to learn French for some time now and still can't keep a simple conversation going.
What is the best way to learn a language?? I've tried Rosetta Stone for a bit, tried some other course and have only learned a little. I can understand some of it, read only a little, write very little. Anyone have some tips on how I can pick up French?
There is no prescription that's good for everyone. It depends on what type of learner you are, on your personality, and on your learning priorities. Things to consider:
1. Do you already speak one or more foreign languages?
2. Is the language you want to learn closely related to one you're fluent in?
3. Do you read a lot, spell well, and have broad intellectual interests?
4. Are you rather introverted, or shy, or nervous about making mistakes in front of people?
5. Is learning the language a hobby more than a pressing need for everyday use?
If you recognize yourself in the above, you're likely to be more at ease with learning languages by yourself, building up your vocabulary by reading and listening until you deem your competence sufficient to hold relatively unstilted conversations.
6. Are you monolingual?
7. Is the language you're learning completely unlike the one(s) you speak?
8. Are you a poor speller, or have a short attention span, or dislike learning by heart?
9. Are you easygoing and extroverted?
10. Are you young? (under about 20)
If you're more like the above, you may want to try to pick up languages the way babies do, by trial and error, and oral practice. Which means learning in a group with plenty of activities such as singing or games.
Whatever you do, be aware that you cannot acquire a working oral fluency in a language without at least 2 or 3 months of TOTAL IMMERSION, i.e., cutting yourself from your native language and people who speak it by living abroad among native speakers. If you cannot afford to travel or have no real possibility of spending any extended time abroad, at the very least you'll need a native speaker girlfriend or boyfriend. Seducing someone in their own language, and learning to communicate the full depth of your feelings to them is the second best option after total immersion.
: Do let us know when you get more about anything else. The plot thickens! Forgive me, but, I don't know who is Rosetta Stone. A rising music star from
: Toast, that was all great feedback. Personally I was brought up speaking french, english and creole. My french is a bit rusty though. I took Spanish
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: A little background: My mom's side of the family is Puerto Rican, so I grew up hearing a lot of Spanish but never being taught it. In 8th grade I took