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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1404 times:

Thank you, University of Pittsburgh! Thank you! And the Buckeyes are headed to the National Championship game again!

Now the bigger question. IF Oklahoma holds on to their lead on Missouri, WHO will play Ohio State? It should NOT be Georgia, who didn't win their conference division, let along their conference. Won-loss wise, it should be Kansas, perhaps, but like Georgia, didn't win their division nor their conference?

LSU?
West Virginia?
USC?
Missiouri?

Hell, I think Hawaii should get the shot, to be honest.

Either way, the BUCKEYES are in! WOOHOO!!

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User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1398 times:

This will be the first year I've seen a team fall ass backwards into a title game... They did nothing, yet get a shot at the title...Luckeyes...


Go big or go home
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1395 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Now the bigger question. IF Oklahoma holds on to their lead on Missouri, WHO will play Ohio State? It should NOT be Georgia, who didn't win their conference division, let along their conference. Won-loss wise, it should be Kansas, perhaps, but like Georgia, didn't win their division nor their conference?

UGA is the next highest ranking team, and if Mizzou loses then UGA deserves that title shot.

I can't believe WVA lost...wow.....this is the end of the BCS system as we know it. But UGA deserves that shot... Ohio State didn't even play a conference championship...they backed into the system and avoided the whole thing by design. There's no basis for saying that UGA doesn't deserve it.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1393 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 1):
This will be the first year I've seen a team fall ass backwards into a title game... They did nothing, yet get a shot at the title...Luckeyes...

You freaking sour puss. Were they lucky? Yes. But only in the sense that EVERY FREAKING TEAM ahead of them that had their destiny in their own hands LOST. Maybe instead of saying OSU fell bass ackwards INTO the game, that all these supposed great teams fell ass backwards OUT of the title game? Blame them, dude.

I've never seen someone who hates Ohio as much as your. Freaking hilarious.


User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1387 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 3):
You freaking sour puss. Were they lucky? Yes. But only in the sense that EVERY FREAKING TEAM ahead of them that had their destiny in their own hands LOST. Maybe instead of saying OSU fell bass ackwards INTO the game, that all these supposed great teams fell ass backwards OUT of the title game? Blame them, dude.

I've never seen someone who hates Ohio as much as your. Freaking hilarious.

Do they deserve it though, probably not? The Big Ten doesn't have a traditional conference title game. They haven't done anything the last 2 weeks and still get into the national title game.

However, this is good for Michigan State as it increases the chance that we will go to Orlando to play in the Champs Sports Bowl.

Congrats OSU, I guess

Signed:

The Students of Michigan State University. At least it is not UMich.



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1381 times:



Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
UGA is the next highest ranking team, and if Mizzou loses then UGA deserves that title shot.

I don't think they deserve it, not will they get it. How can they go ahead of LSU, who won the SEC? Georgia didn't even make the title game-hell, didn't even win their division.

Let's look at everyone else.

Kansas. Based on won-loss, they'd seem a logical choice, but, like Georgia, didn't win their division or conference.
Virginia Tech. Won the ACC, but lost big to LSU early on in the year.
LSU. Won the SEC, but the SEC doesn't seem so high and mighty now. And LSU struggled to win 3 or 4 games.
Missiouri: Not after losing (it looks like) twice to Oklahoma.
Oklahoma. Lost to two teams that shouldn't have beat the, Colorado and Texas Tech, but looks like they'll win the Big 12.
USC: Won the PAC-10, But the loss to lowly Stanford just kills them.

I'd have to say, honestly, it should be between Kansas, Oklahoma and LSU. I think Georgia gets kicked down a few spots, but I don't think the same fate will meet Kansas. I think it'll be Kansas and Ohio State.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1379 times:



Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 4):
The Big Ten doesn't have a traditional conference title game.

Uh, title games aren't "traditional". Most have been alive less than a decade. It's only through the expansion of the conferences that the title game was born. That shouldn't matter one bit. IF the Big 10 adds another team, and makes it an even 12, then I think they go to 2 divisions, and an eventual title game. But that really doesn't matter right now. You play the games you play.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1370 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 3):
I've never seen someone who hates Ohio as much as your. Freaking hilarious.

Take a pill old man, I don't hate Ohio. I went to school in that state for 4 years by choice. I dislike Ohio State fans, plain and simple. I'm not the only one...



Go big or go home
User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1665 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1366 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 6):
But that really doesn't matter right now. You play the games you play.

True, but it is kind of uneven when teams play a different number of games. I would like to see the Big Ten add another team and split into 2 divisions. But then the question becomes how do you split the teams? OSU and Michigan go in different divisions then MSU probably goes into the same division with Michigan.

How it would shake out: (Off the top of my head)

East Division:

Penn State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana
Purdue
New Team

West Division

Minnesota
Wisconsin
Iowa
Ohio State
Illinois
Northwestern


No real reason behind it, just what I can think of.
But, this does help MSU and the Big Ten. It shifts everyone up a tier as it leaves another non-BCS bowl. I think MSU will be in Orlando along with Michigan and play in the Champs Sports Bowl.



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User currently offlineMSYtristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1366 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
Georgia didn't even make the title game-hell, didn't even win their division.

Georgia won't go the the BCS game. Not a chance. If they won the East (ie, didn't get killed by Tennessee), then it would a whole diff. ball game. I don't think LSU will go, either. They are a lock for the Sugar Bowl, so either way, LSU will be playing in New Orleans in January...just perhaps not in the game they would have wanted to.


User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1366 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 7):
Ohio State fans, plain and simple. I'm not the only one...

Why?


O...H.......


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1361 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 9):

The way OU is pasting Missouri right now, I may have to give the Sooners the nod.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1361 times:

Georgia doesn't go...not even making the SEC title game is reason for the voters to keep them out of the BCS title game.....they'll likely replace LSU at the Sugar Bowl.

To me, the kicker will likely be whether or not LSU (now #7) can jump Virginia Tech (now #6) in the standings. Both lost two games, however LSU stomped the Hokies in the second game of the season...and both LSU losses came in triple overtime.

LSU dropped from 1 to 7 last week...anything's possible...they could make it back up to 2 tomorrow.

Tom at MSY (on the CrackBerry)



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineTb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1648 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1357 times:



Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 10):

O...H.......

I.......O.......


GO BUCKEYES!!!!!!!!



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User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1351 times:



Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):
UGA is the next highest ranking team, and if Mizzou loses then UGA deserves that title shot.

It won't happen but I'd love to see UGA-LSU play in the big game. Unlike OSU they both played a tough schedule.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
Georgia didn't even make the title game-hell, didn't even win their division.

No, they tied for it and lost the tie breaker. They are on a hell of a roll and absolutely one of the best teams around.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
I think Georgia gets kicked down a few spots,

If UGA is penalized for not playing today, why shouldn't the same happen to OSU?

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
LSU. Won the SEC, but the SEC doesn't seem so high and mighty now.

Three teams in the top 10 and one playing for the National Championship, 8 or 9 teams bowling. Yeah, I guess it is a down year for the SEC.



Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offlineItsnotfinals From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1348 times:

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Oklahoma ...you rock too  Smile


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1338 times:

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 14):
Unlike OSU they both played a tough schedule

If you want to call LSU's playing Middle Tennesse St, Tulane and Louisiana Tech tough.  

If you want to call Georgia beating Western Carolina and Troy tough.  

Another crock of crap put over by the blinded SEC lovers on here.

Oh, by the way, the Big 10 only had one team under .500 for the year.

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 14):
If UGA is penalized for not playing today, why shouldn't the same happen to OSU?

Not saying they'll get penalized for not playing today. They get penalized for not WINNING anything. How can they go ahead of LSU, who at least WON the SEC title. It's idiocy. And OSU WON the Big 10 title. Big difference. Bottom line: Ohio State, Virginia Tech, Oklahoma, LSU and USC ALL should be ahead of Georgia.

I could be wrong, but the way OU is routing Mizzou, they could end up in the title game.

[Edited 2007-12-01 20:48:07]

User currently offlineTZ757300 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2876 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1309 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):

I can't believe WVA lost...wow

I can't believe we lost either. Of all of the teams, we lose to PITT????? I mean, if we lost to a respectable team, I wouldn't be so livid about this, but PITT? Coach Rich Rod let us down in SOOOOO many ways tonight.

I can't believe we lost...

But for something happy, our men's b-ball team won and I met chuck yeager.

[Edited 2007-12-01 21:24:36]


LETS GO MOUNTAINEERS!
User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4615 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1296 times:

We should probably get the Mods to combine these threads into just one title match up thread...otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of duplicate posting.

See my comparrisons on the OU/MU thread about schedules and crap of the teams that I think should only be considered for going to New Orleans.

Official Big 12 Title Thread: OU V. Mizzou (by Falcon84 Dec 1 2007 in Non Aviation)


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1288 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
If you want to call LSU's playing Middle Tennesse St, Tulane and Louisiana Tech tough.

and 7 bowl teams with more than half of their games against ranked opponents.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
If you want to call Georgia beating Western Carolina and Troy tough.

If you don't think Troy is tough this year then you're not paying attention, not a great team but definitely a good one. How about Tennessee, Auburn, Florida, and Kentucky? Not an overly tough schedule by SEC standards but still much tougher than most.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
Another crock of crap put over by the blinded SEC lovers on here.

Oh wow, OSU had one opponent over the season who's still ranked, Top 20 ....barely. Didn't play a single team ranked in the Top 20 at the time of the game all year.

Let's check with the NCAA on SOS at http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/Internet/...hest%20schedule/ia_9games_cumm.pdf :

SEC - 4 teams in top 10, median SOS ~ 22, mean ~24 - only one team in the entire Conference lower than OSU at 46

Big 10/11 - 2 teams in top 10, median SOS = 46, mean ~ 44

For specific teams, UGA - 19, LSU - 35, OSU - 46

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
Oh, by the way, the Big 10 only had one team under .500 for the year.

and has all of two ranked teams. Let's put this in perspective. Ole Miss sucked by SEC standards at 0-8 in conference and 3-1 out of conference. Their one out of conference loss was 38-25 to Missouri. Vandy was also "bad" but had three losses to Top 25 teams that were within a touchdown and one win over a Top 10 team.



Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1279 times:



Quoting DL021 (Reply 2):

UGA is the next highest ranking team,

They don't deserve to go to the national championship.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 5):
I don't think they deserve it, not will they get it. How can they go ahead of LSU, who won the SEC? Georgia didn't even make the title game-hell, didn't even win their division.



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 12):
Georgia doesn't go...not even making the SEC title game is reason for the voters to keep them out of the BCS title game.....

And the fact that Georgia lost to South Carolina is enough reason to not let them go. If we're looking at schedules and the quality of wins/losses in terms of the opponents involved, Georgia doesn't deserve anything more.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 16):
Another crock of crap put over by the blinded SEC lovers on here.

The SEC gets more respect than it deserves. Around here it's like no other conference exists.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1275 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
Now the bigger question. IF Oklahoma holds on to their lead on Missouri, WHO will play Ohio State? It should NOT be Georgia, who didn't win their conference division, let along their conference. Won-loss wise, it should be Kansas, perhaps, but like Georgia, didn't win their division nor their conference?

Unfortunately, there is a past precedence for the BCS to send a team that didn't win their division and thus their conference to the national championship...In 2001, Nebraska went to the title game despite not even winning the Big 12 North thanks to a thrashing by Colorado (the infamous 62-36 game)...



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1263 times:



Quoting Itsnotfinals (Reply 10):
O...H.......

I O

Go Buckeyes!!


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8034 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

We now have a "perfect storm" of a mess in regards to the Bowl Championship Series.

Ohio State literally lucked out and is now one contender, but who will they play? LSU? Georgia? Virginia Tech? USC? Oklahoma? G** help us all.  Wow!


User currently offlineGatorman96 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 874 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Falcon, reminds me of the 2006 Gators...We basically backed our way in to the MNC and the rest is history. I feel like you guys are destined to win it this year. Good luck...Can't wait to see who you'll play!!


Cha brro
25 Post contains images EA CO AS : Interesting to hear this coming from a fan of a team that played such powerhouses as Youngstown State, Akron, and even mighty Kent State High School.
26 Pope : Say what you want. I think OSU still has nightmares about the SEC. I don't think you'll see them talking smack this year after what happened to them
27 Nonrevman : Unfortunately, winning your conference does not seem to factor in to the BCS decision. Nebraska pmce got in without winning the Big 12 North. In fact
28 RJdxer : I'm from Ohio and I have to agree they lucked out. Since this is a poll subject to considerable input from humans instead of a scientific breakdown t
29 Post contains images DL021 : Look at strength of schedule. So? Wow...that's a fairly contentious statement....wonder why...are Ohio State fans afraid to play another SEC team? I'
30 Post contains images Falcon84 : Well, let's take a look here at Ohio State's schedule: looks like 6 teams will make bowl games. OSU beat ranked opponents in Michigan, Penn State and
31 767Lover : Yeah-- On September 8th. How'd the rest of the season go for them? Kansas didn't even play Oklahoma during regular season. If they had I believe Okla
32 Post contains images Halls120 : I'll be rooting for whomever is playing against Ohio State. add to the above all the stupid buckeye decals the playes stick on to their helmets. Remi
33 TZ757300 : I rightfully agree. Although, I have a conspiracy theory as of why we lost, but I won't get into that. I still can't believe we lost to a team that h
34 Post contains links Duff44 : Just a quick little tidbit... I've seen both the updated Colley Matrix and Sagarin ratings, which are BCS computer components. Colley: http://www.coll
35 Post contains images Tom in NO : Ian, it goes without saying that the two of us will be rooting like hell for the Bulldogs in the Sugar Bowl Tom at MSY
36 TZ757300 : What, eat s**t Pitt, what? We did, we screwed up, I'll admit to that. Yeah, hardly near resepctable is about right. I really don't see what you are s
37 Decman : Really? I think by going to WVU you would know the rivalry between Pitt and WVU. The fact that Pitt, being huge underdogs, were able to go down to Mo
38 Post contains images TZ757300 : Oh I do, and to that,heres to you... Oh, I think I will end the conversation. Both of us will never win or lose this argument.
39 767Lover : SC wasn't horrible. However, if Georgia fans are going to critcize the quality of other bowl contender's wins and losses, they need to look at their
40 DL021 : WOOF!!! Hey...be nice... Besides...playing Hawaii is simply a no-win proposition.....if you win then "well, you were supposed to win and WIN BIG! dam
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