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Worst And Most Over Rated Players In The NFL.  
User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

Topic name says it all. Who do you guys think are the most Over rated Players or the worst in the NFL? As far as my pick for the most "Over rated" It would have to be QB Eli Manning. IMO that guy is just plain bad and I think he only starts because his brother is the talented Payton Manning.


Enjoy.

Mike

[Edited 2007-12-03 12:41:47]

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User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

He didn't have such a great day yesterday except when it counted.

Another in a series of Giants heart attack cliffhangers. They've been doing this stuff for the 30 years I've been watching.


User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3602 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2285 times:

There is no quarterback in the NFL that can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as consistantly as Rex Grossman!

The Bears would be better off with Jarjar Binks at QB!

(If someone could now Photoshop a pic of Jarjar with a football helmet, it would be greatly appreciated)

 Smile

[Edited 2007-12-03 12:51:35]

User currently offlineCumulonimbus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2280 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 2):
There is no quarterback in the NFL that can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as consistantly as Rex Grossman!

The Bears would be better off with Jarjar Binks at QB!

Oh wow , how could I forget about him.....Poor Rex Gross....


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

The thing about the NFL, if you are overrated, you don't stay that way for very long. Eli Manning and Grossman are two good examples, but they won't stick around too long if things continue. One could make that case that Randy Moss was overrated for the past couple of seasons, but a fresh start in NE has taken care of that.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7810 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2262 times:



Quoting Cumulonimbus (Thread starter):
It would have to be QB Eli Manning. IMO that guy is just plain bad and I think he only starts because his brother is the talented Payton Manning.

For a guy who is the starting QB of an 8-4 team, with a decent shot of securing a wild card spot in the playoffs, I don't think you can say Eli is overrated. He is still young and relatively inexperienced.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2257 times:



Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 2):
There is no quarterback in the NFL that can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as consistently as Rex Grossman!

Grossman is just the latest in a long line of Florida Gators QBs that have either stunk up the NFL or couldn't even make an NFL squad.


User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Hey, for the past couple of years, the Bills have been running out a QB whose last name is "Loss-man." Now he's perpetually seesawing the starting job with a Rookie. The guy's favorite dessert is turnovers.


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User currently offlineJA732A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2230 times:



Quoting Cumulonimbus (Thread starter):
Topic name says it all. Who do you guys think are the most Over rated Players or the worst in the NFL? As far as my pick for the most "Over rated" It would have to be QB Eli Manning. IMO that guy is just plain bad and I think he only starts because his brother is the talented Payton Manning.

He's not the greatest quarterback on the planet - and he makes alot of stupid mistakes, but overall he's a good QB. I think with his time in the NFL, his record is better than his brother's was at the same. The problem with the Giants, is Coughlin who the team has little respect for... they need to get a couch who can install some discipline.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2225 times:



Quoting JA732A (Reply 8):
they need to get a couch who can install some discipline.

How can a couch install some discipline?  Wink


User currently offlineCastleIsland From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2221 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 9):
How can a couch install some discipline?

Well, if I could teach my dog to stay off of it, that would be an accomplishment.


User currently offlineANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3309 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
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Tony Romo.

Enough said.

TIS



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User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2210 times:



Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 10):
Well, if I could teach my dog to stay off of it, that would be an accomplishment.

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 

Anyway, as for me, there is not really a worst and most overrated player in the NFL. For me, the most overrated team in the NFL are the Dallas Cowboys and right now also the New England Patriots.


User currently offlineLHMARK From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 13, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2204 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 12):
For me, the most overrated team in the NFL are the Dallas Cowboys and right now also the New England Patriots.

I'd be curious to hear how the Patriots, at 11-0, are 'overrated.'



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2200 times:



Quoting Cumulonimbus (Thread starter):
IMO that guy is just plain bad and I think he only starts because his brother is the talented Payton Manning.

And his dad is Archie Manning. Eli has all the talent in the world, but plays the game as dumb as a rock.

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 5):
He is still young and relatively inexperienced.

Um, he was the first overall pick in the NFL Draft and is in his 4th season. He should be much, much better at this point.

Quoting JA732A (Reply 8):
I think with his time in the NFL, his record is better than his brother's was at the same.

If it is, it is because Eli has had the benefit of a much better team around him.



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User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2196 times:



Quoting Cumulonimbus (Thread starter):
As far as my pick for the most "Over rated" It would have to be QB Eli Manning. IMO that guy is just plain bad and I think he only starts because his brother is the talented Payton Manning.

Here Here!  checkmark 

Quoting DesertJets (Reply 5):
For a guy who is the starting QB of an 8-4 team, with a decent shot of securing a wild card spot in the playoffs, I don't think you can say Eli is overrated. He is still young and relatively inexperienced.

How long will you use that excuse for him? He's been in the league 4 years now, was a number 1 draft pick, comes from the exhalted royal line of Mannings (though Archie sucked in the NFL), and apparently is so smart that he would have sat out a year and gone to law school than play for the Chargers.

Face it...Eli is a bust and not worthy of sniffing his brother's jock.

I'll give him one thing though...his teams at Ole Miss did something Peyton never came close to doing...beating Florida.

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
Grossman is just the latest in a long line of Florida Gators QBs that have either stunk up the NFL or couldn't even make an NFL squad.

Ain't that the truth. He's done a bit better than most but overall still not good.



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User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2174 times:



Quoting Cumulonimbus (Thread starter):
my pick for the most "Over rated" It would have to be QB Eli Manning.



Quoting CastleIsland (Reply 4):
Eli Manning and Grossman are two good examples,



Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):
Here Here! checkmark

To be 'overrated', people have to think the player is better than he really is. I don't know what league you guys are watching, but everyone has been ripping Eli a new one after the Vikings game. When everyone says you suck, you aren't overrated.

A few of the most overrated:

Chad Johnson (at least this year)
Big Ben - solid QB, not the world beater he's made out to be
Adalius Thomas
Shawne Merriman - what happened to the hype after the 'roids went away?
Roy Williams (Cowboys)
Donovan McNabb
Reggie Bush - he'll get there, but not so quick
Shawn Alexander


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Three quarterbacks instantly come to mind here. Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck and Tony Romo

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):
(though Archie sucked in the NFL)

Archie was a very good quarterback on some really sh!tty teams.



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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

I thought Mike Vick was overrated long before the dog issue.

User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2141 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Three quarterbacks instantly come to mind here. Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck and Tony Romo

Manning and Hasselbeck - yes. Romo is currently the second highest rated passer in the NFL. How can you say he is overrated?

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Archie was a very good quarterback on some really sh!tty teams.

 rotfl  He spent fifteen years in the NFL. Two pro bowl selections. 125 TD passes, 173 INTs.

"Archie Manning was much more like his son Eli, with obvious ability but inconsistent, prone to mistakes, a tad bit overrated, and unable to make those around him better." "Archie Manning is not in the all-time top 50 in any major category."
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...e_manning_was_not_as_great_as.html

"It seems very likely that if quarterback sacks had been an official statistic throughout his NFL career, there would probably have been more recorded against him than against any other player." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Manning


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2125 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Three quarterbacks instantly come to mind here. Eli Manning, Matt Hasselbeck and Tony Romo



Quoting N1120A (Reply 14):
he was the first overall pick in the NFL Draft and is in his 4th season. He should be much, much better at this point.

If these are your criteria, what about Alex Smith? He is in his third season, also the first overall pick, and is probably done for the season after throwing 2 td's in 7 games. Of course, no one is saying he's the best QB on the planet, so is he really overrated? What about David Carr - in his 6th year?


User currently offlineIADCA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1367 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2122 times:



Quoting WellHung (Reply 16):
Roy Williams (Cowboys)

What, you think a guy shouldn't be in the Pro Bowl for giving up 30 yard completions and getting a penalty created to suit his dirty tackling style?

Seriously, excellent choice. His was the first name that came to mind.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2110 times:



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 11):
Tony Romo.

Enough said.

You're joking, right? Over-rated, on an 11-1 team? Uh, Ok.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 15):
Face it...Eli is a bust

Eli is still a young quarterback. It's still the toughest position to play in the NFL. How many young QB's are up there now, playing at a high level? Not many. The above-mentioned Romo is one of them. Eli is hitting that time where he has to put up or shut up, so to day. I'm not ready to call him a bust yet. He shows flashes of the talent he has.

What about Phillip Rivers right now?

Quoting WellHung (Reply 16):
Big Ben - solid QB, not the world beater he's made out to be

A VERY solid QB. But he's a bust because he doesn't make spectacular plays or something? Most teams in the NFL, save maybe the Pack, Cowboys, Pats, Bengels and the Colts would kill for him. He's a cool customer; he doesn't beat you with mistakes; he can run if he has to; he's almost impossible to bring down with one hit; he has touch on short passes, and can wing it when he needs to; he's accurate; and he runs the offense the Steelers want him to run. He's the guy I said coming out of that draft that I wanted, and I'm standing by that, although Kellen Winslow is becoming such a monster at TE for the Browns, I'm not too upset anymore over that pick. Give me Ben any day.

Quoting WellHung (Reply 16):
Adalius Thomas

Please. I'd take him on my linebacking corp any day. I wanted the Browns to get that guy. He's way better than a guy who is now over rated in Ray Lewls.

Some over-rated players:

Ray Lewis-his best days are past. He's still a formidable linbebacker, but not the beast he was.

Jeremy Shockey-A very good, but not a great tight end. Tell me if you'd take Winslow or Shockey right now?

Mario Williams-Is he over-rated, or simply not as good as Houston had hoped. Had he been 2nd rounder, he'd be considered a very good pick.

Chad Johnson-whole team is off this year. He's still a good ballplayer.


How about some UNDER-RATED players?

-Joshua Cribbs
-TJ Houshmenzadeh (hope that's close  Smile )
-Dallas Clark

Could probably put a Pro-Bowl list out with the underrated team.


User currently offlineDeltaGator From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 6341 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2110 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Archie was a very good quarterback on some really sh!tty teams.

Would just quit with the public felating of all things NOLA for once in your life. It really gets old. What next...Ray Nagin will be starring in Tyler Perry's version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and that he deserves an Oscar?  Wink

Archie averaged 1800 passing yards, 9.6 TD passes, and 13 INTs/year. Where I come from that is a crappy record at best and piss poor coming from a 2nd overall draft pick.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26795 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (7 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2108 times:



Quoting Halls120 (Reply 19):
Romo is currently the second highest rated passer in the NFL. How can you say he is overrated?

Because he hasn't proved he can put a team on his back. The presence of Terrell Owens, who is awesome despite being a putz, has meant Romo looks a lot better than he is.

Quoting Halls120 (Reply 19):
"It seems very likely that if quarterback sacks had been an official statistic throughout his NFL career, there would probably have been more recorded against him than against any other player."

Which goes to show the kind of teams he had around him.

Quoting WellHung (Reply 20):
What about David Carr - in his 6th year?

Absolutely a disappointment.



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25 Falcon84 : A little over-dramateic, DG. Arch WAS a good QB, who WAS stuck with a lousy organization. One anaology who comes to mind is Nolan Ryan, who many thin
26 Fllcontinental : TO does not make Romo look better than he is. Did you see them in the thanksgiving game versus the Jets? TO Sucked but romo looked great.
27 HuskyAviation : You can't really judge Archie by pure numbers--the 1970s were a much different era in terms of passing statistics, and he had an absolutely dreadful
28 N1120A : One could say the same about you and UofF. I have liked Archie ever since watching the NFL Films special on him years ago. Further, my hometown doesn
29 Post contains images WellHung : How did the term 'bust' enter in to the conversation re: Ben??? A guy can be good and still be overrated. That's nice. But when Thomas signed with th
30 Post contains images Falcon84 : Not saying Arch would have been a HOFer. He would have been considered a much better QB had he played with a good organization. For most of their exi
31 N1120A : Kurt Warner had great stats for a few years too. He was a product of the system as opposed to being a great QB
32 Falcon84 : Guys who are the Player of the Year are usually more than just a product of a system. You have to have the talent. Kurt had the talent, and the talen
33 N1120A : And the fact that he is as well regarded as he is has to say something. Warner could throw a football, sure. He was, however, nowhere near the talent
34 Halls120 : DeltaGator said it best: "Would just quit with the public felating of all things NOLA for once in your life. It really gets old. What next...Ray Nagi
35 Corocks : Doesn't someone have to consider you good in order for you to be 'over-rated'? My vote goes to Vince Young. It may be only here in the Houston market
36 N1120A : Vince Young knows how to throw the football. He has one of the best arms in the NFL. It is a matter of designing an offense that takes advantage of h
37 COrocks : I mean throw the ball to the players on his team - not the opposition. Two interceptions for every touchdown is not going to get you very far in the
38 LTU932 : I don't know of Vince Young's, but to me it sounds like two things could be factors: 1. The receivers are not agile and fast enough to avoid even the
39 Post contains images Steeler83 : I disagree completely with that one! Sure he's not among the best of the best, but he is by NO means "over rated." 25 TDs, 11 picks, and the second-h
40 Post contains images Halls120 : First it isn't Archie's fault because the Saints organization sucked, now it isn't Young's fault because the coaches haven't designed an offense to h
41 IADCA : No, he doesn't know how to throw the football, or at least he doesn't do it well. Too many deep balls come down to the inside of receivers that are c
42 COrocks : I think you must have quoted the wrong person. I did not say anything about Archie Manning and totally hold Vince accountable for his actions. That i
43 Halls120 : I was quoting N1120A, who was quoting you.
44 Corey07850 : The problem with Shockey is the Giants just don't throw to him. When he first started in the league they would throw to him every third down and he w
45 COrocks : I was 100% with your analysis of his game until this statement. He is tied for dead last in TD/INT ratio. That is bad. I think he just cannot read de
46 Dragon-wings : Chad Pennington! The guy has no arm and is made of glass! Does anyone think Eli has not been that good because the players around him aren't that good
47 MSYtristar : Archie Manning's NFL tenure wasn't as successful as many people thought it would be, but considering he played on some BAD teams, he didn't do too bad
48 IADCA : I was giving him the benefit of the doubt given their present lack of talent at RB and WR. But seeing that college ratio makes it a lot worse, and wh
49 HuskyAviation : I would argue that he created the system rather than being a product of it. Like Vick, Vince Young is a great athlete who is not a great quarterback.
50 Boeing7E7 : Ask the "no blitz" - "prevent you from winning" defensive coordinator. Anyone remember the Vikings firepower in the late 90's/early 00's coupled with
51 COrocks : As a Houston fan, all I can say is "No Shit". What a waste his 5 years here was. Although, looking back at that draft, it was a no-win situation. As
52 Steeler83 : I would have thought someone on the Dallas team would have been the NFC player of 1978... Who was the NFL MVP that year? Was it Bradshaw? I know he w
53 MSYtristar : Well it looks like Archie was the UPI (whatever that is) NFC player of the year. AP NFL MVP was Bradshaw, and he was also the Super Bowl MVP.[Edited
54 N1120A : Now THAT was a mistake I don't necessarily agree. Marty has never succeeded in the playoffs Then why has he never come close before or since? Vermeil
55 Usair320 : As a diehard Eagles fan I can only say one thing: To To To Tooo TOOO( any NFL fan should know of that song)
56 Post contains images WellHung : There's a shocker. Maybe you can cite a more reliable source than someone who equates 'overrated' with 'bust'. Hmm... nope. Plaxico Burress, Amani To
57 Post contains images GQfluffy : I can't believe it took 50 posts untill someone finally named the most over-rated player I've ever seen... He was fairly decent when he played High S
58 Steeler83 : HAHAHAHA funny... although I think Alan Feneca may be a little over rated right now given his feeble performances in recent weeks. He's been very str
59 COrocks : And Earl Campbell was the Pro Football Writers of America MVP.
60 LTU932 : John Elway also never suceeded in the Super Bowl until he overcame that curse in Super Bowl XXXII by beating the Packers, and then made it a back to
61 COrocks : Biggest draft bust in history.
62 Post contains images Steeler83 : How about foxsports, espn, etc... they all say the same thing pretty much... Ah, thanks for confirming what I thought
63 Cumulonimbus : As much as I hate Dallas..Tony Romo is by far NOT over rated. Mike
64 MSYtristar : Anytime! BTW, Bradshaw is the man. I went to Louisiana Tech for one year and needless to say he was still a legend there.
65 Freshlove1 : Definatly overated, always has been always will be. Got my vote for the worst ever. God that was horrible and the sad thing is that he got his money
66 COrocks : I totally agree. I expected him to be a bust. You have to give him some credit. Maybe the secret is that anyone who takes the job from Drew Bledsoe b
67 MSYtristar : Last I heard Leaf was living in some small town out in the boonies somewhere in Texas I think teaching high school football.
68 Halls120 : Manning career stat most illustrative - more interceptions (173) than passing (125) TDs. 2 pro bowls. Contrast this with the following NFL QB legends
69 Falcon84 : Terry is in my top 5 all time for QB's. That list may have to change to a "Top 10" with guys like Brady and Manning coming along. 1. Otto Graham 2. J
70 WellHung : They hype him to be something he is not... at least right now. Romo was undrafted and the only reason anyone paid attention to him starting was becau
71 Boeing7E7 : LOL... You've clearly never played football. Everyone gets their time. Marty was due. Had the talent to go with it as well.[Edited 2007-12-03 19:38:5
72 MSYtristar : All I said was that he didn't do too bad considering the teams he played on. No, more INT's than TD's is not good at all. But you could have done a l
73 Falcon84 : I never have either, but I understand that in a 3-4, the outside linebacker's prime responsibility is BLIZTING THE QUARTERBACK. The Browns got Kamero
74 Boeing7E7 : Ted Cotrells version of 3-4 is the alternate zone cover. The outside LB's are all over the place and not in the QB's face. That has apparently shifte
75 COrocks : Terry was a good quarterback, but top 5 all time?? Come on. Yes he won superbowls, but that is not all you can measure him on and it was more what wa
76 WellHung : Please elaborate. Thanks for the 'lesson' Falc, but the joke is on you. Just like you incorrectly equate overrated with bust, you also incorrectly eq
77 Post contains images Steeler83 : I still wish I could've been around in the 1970s to see that team play, although I did get a dose of that in 2005. A clutch QB who can carry a team o
78 Post contains images Falcon84 : Joke's not on me, actually. You're splitting hairs there. Again, in the 3-4, the 3 down-lineman are primarily responsible for the run. In the 3-4, th
79 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Wow....Have you watched him play ONE game? Game after game, His receivers beat defenders deep, get a PERFECT ball thrown to them in stride, and drop
80 Steeler83 : I better know what the 3-4 defense is and how it works. Lord knows I have been watching a team use that menacing scheme to dismantle an opposing offe
81 WellHung : Actually, there's a pretty distinct line between a blitz and a rush. Feel free to look it up or just ask your local pee wee football coach. It's not
82 COrocks : Have you - he is one of the worst rated QB's in the NFL. How many times has he thrown the ball directly to a defender? You can't blame it all on the
83 CO7e7 : My vote for the overrated NFL player goes to Ray Lewis. Maybe he's just getting old! As for the underrated player, my vote goes to Josh Cribbs.
84 Post contains images ShannoninAMA : Sorry....i probably came across a little harsh earlier... My bad. Eh, The one thing that makes me wonder is how little he runs the ball these days. Te
85 IADCA : Teams just have one of the linebackers floating in coverage about 5-10 yards downfield. They protect against him running and also seem to flummox him
86 ANITIX87 : Just because they're 11-1 doesn't mean he's a great QB. Take Brett Favre, from my life-long favorite Packers. His team is having a GREAT season, but
87 Halls120 : I was comparing Manning to QB's of his era that are also retired.
88 Post contains images ORFflyer : That's funny. And this coming from a Washington Redskins fan. There is no way you can call Tony Romo overrated. Not yet anyway. Let's see about him a
89 Bicoastal : All this talk about Eli....what about the Charger's overrated QB: Phillip Rivers?. The guy couldn't read a defense if his life depended on it. He's a
90 COrocks : I think you just unknowingly proved everyone's point about Tony Romo. You say without TO, then Dallas has "nobody". In that theory, then TO should be
91 Post contains images Steeler83 : and Ray Lewis is still playing? I haven't noticed... Josh Cribbs is a force to be reckoned with... I don't know why Brett Favre is considered overrat
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