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What One Drug Would You Try With No Consequences?  
User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3611 posts, RR: 15
Posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

If you were able to try one drug what would it be and why?

Lets assume you would not experience any negative side effects after the experience. It would be like you never did it, except for the experience.

For me it would be LSD. I'd love to see what it was like but I'd never do it.

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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2117 times:
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There would be NO drug I want to test... NO, not at all, nothing... NO chance...

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User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2112 times:



Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):
There would be NO drug I want to test... NO, not at all, nothing... NO chance...

That's exactly the same thing I was gonna say too.



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User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3080 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 1):


Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 2):

Simply because you two are worried about the consequences it would have on your mind and body. This is only a hypothetical situation with NO consequences.

I wouldn't mind trying LSD. Maybe even heroin just too see what those addicts find so great despite its effects.

[Edited 2007-12-11 00:16:33]


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User currently offlineWILCO737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2107 times:
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Quoting JetsGo (Reply 3):
Simply because you two are worried about the consequences it would have on your mind and body. This is only a hypothetical situation with NO consequences.

Even then I dont want to try NO drug... I just dont want it! I had so many friends trying drugs and they were acting so weird and werent themself anymore... and thats what I HATE about drugs! So no thanks! never ever!

Oh, and might I add: I have never ever tried a cigarette as well... Disgusting...

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[Edited 2007-12-11 00:23:03]


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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Drugs? No, thanks, never!

Alcohol? Hell yes Big grin


User currently offlineJafa39 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Love is the drug for me....  Wink

User currently offlineJetsGo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3080 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2091 times:



Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 5):

Both alter your mind, causing you to not fully realize whats going on. I fail to see the difference from just once, especially if there are no consequences.

Quoting Jafa39 (Reply 6):

 dopey 



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User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2086 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 3):
Simply because you two are worried about the consequences it would have on your mind and body. This is only a hypothetical situation with NO consequences.

I still have no desire to try ANY type of drug. I see enough idiots during the summer f***ed out of their brains on drugs. The odd cigarette and a couple of glasses of wine are enough for me.



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User currently offlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2075 times:



Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 8):
The odd cigarette and a couple of glasses of wine are enough for me.

Nicotine and Alcohol - not only are both drugs, they are two of the most addictive drugs you are very likely to get your hands on.

Slight hypocrisy methinks ...........  Wink



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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2069 times:



Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 9):
Nicotine and Alcohol - not only are both drugs, they are two of the most addictive drugs you are very likely to get your hands on.

Slight hypocrisy methinks ...........

Completely agree, and one would argue that they have done more damage to society than the rest of them put together.

For me, it would have to be heroin. Why arse about with the soft stuff? If there aren't going to be any consequences, might as well go all the way.

Someone else would have to stick the needle in though......


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

The whole public drug discussion is hypocritical to me. Not even the terms are defined logically. While rather harmless substances like THC are labeled as drugs, stronger stuff like alcohol is regarded like regular food, and heavily addictive stuff like nicotine (which is far more addictive than cocaine) is widely accepted to be included in most tobacco products.

In a nutshell: if you occasionally smoke tobacco joints, then the tobacco is probably more dangerous for your health than the marijuana.

Yet still, cigarette smoking is stll more or less acceptable on a public level, while marijuana smokers are regarded as drug addicts.

I for myself try to maintain a well-balanced state of mind without the use of narcotics. That way, I can really enjoy them when I would occasionally consume them (usually good red wine, a single malt, a good cigar or some good weed for special occasions). But the golden rule for me is: as long as my life is not in balance, I will not consume any of them - not even beer.


User currently offlineSunshine79 From UK - England, joined Jan 2006, 1759 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2056 times:



Quoting Gordonsmall (Reply 9):
Nicotine and Alcohol - not only are both drugs, they are two of the most addictive drugs you are very likely to get your hands on.

Slight hypocrisy methinks ..........

Er, well, considering drugs are illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are not, I don't quite agree with you there. And I'm not addicted to them, as I say the odd one or two every no and then.



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User currently offlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2100 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2049 times:



Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 12):
Er, well, considering drugs are illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are not, I don't quite agree with you there.

What gives you the idea that drugs are illegal? Whilst it might be true that SOME drugs are controlled by the legal system they are NOT illegal. Even drugs like heroin are used legally every day in hospitals all over the UK and the rest of the world.

You said .......

Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 8):
I see enough idiots during the summer f***ed out of their brains on drugs.

Yet you're quite happy to consume alcohol, a drug which can have a much more dramatic effect on someone's body than even the harshest of narcotics. I spent a number of years as a nightclub doorman and given the choice of dealing with an aggressive drunk or some daft kid stoned out of his head, I'd take the stoner every time!

If your only reasoning for avoiding 'drugs' is that they're 'illegal' then you obviously didn't understand the question! The OP clearly stated that you had to consider the situation based on there being NO consequences.



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User currently offlineKiwiinOz From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 2165 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2038 times:



Quoting Sunshine79 (Reply 12):
Er, well, considering drugs are illegal and cigarettes and alcohol are not, I don't quite agree with you there. And I'm not addicted to them, as I say the odd one or two every no and then.

Alcohol is illegal in some places....and the question of legality shouldn't really be a concern in a hypothetical question of, "no consequences"

Most Cocaine and Acid users are not addicted. The vast majority of cigarette smokers are addicted.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2021 times:



Quoting KiwiinOz (Reply 14):
Most Cocaine and Acid users are not addicted.

I'm pretty sure thats one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't known one "casual" cocaine user. It always got a hold of them. Always.


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2008 times:



Quoting JetsGo (Reply 7):

Both alter your mind, causing you to not fully realize whats going on. I fail to see the difference from just once, especially if there are no consequences.

It's my ego and the thought of trying out drugs that drive me away. I swore to myself that i'll never try drugs, and i won't break that promise. If your opinion differs from mine, so be it.

For me no drugs, even without consequences, thank you very much.


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2003 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 15):
I'm pretty sure thats one of the most ignorant things I have ever read.

Not as ignorant as it may seem at first (though I don't know if I would agree with the word "most" either).

In fact, cocaine is quite soft in terms of physical addictiveness. If consumed pure, the physical consequences of occasional consumption are much less severe compared to consumption of alcohol, nicotine or even caffeine (when consumed in comparable amounts, that is).

However, cocaine is quite dangerous in terms of psychic consequences. Regular use of cocaine will change your personality quite rapidly. Especially the depression after the cocaine "high" can quickly lead to a psychical addiction.

Plus, the stuff you will usually get on the street is often impure, which will increase the health hazard both psychically and physically.

Thus, I would never recommend anybody to ever try cocaine (and I have not tried it myself, either). Still, as a matter of fact, cocaine is not as strong as many other narcotics (including alcohol, nicotine and caffeine) in terms of physical addictiveness.


User currently offlineOgre727 From Spain, joined Feb 2005, 718 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1986 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 15):
I'm pretty sure thats one of the most ignorant things I have ever read. I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't known one "casual" cocaine user. It always got a hold of them. Always.

I know pooeple who are casual cocain users. I am not lying, and it's not a friend of a friend. I assure you I am not wrong.

I agree that drugs are dangerous. They get hold of people and never let go. In the end it doesn't matter if there are casual users or not, it is MUCH more likely that you could become addicted to drugs like Cocaine, ecstasy, etc, that it's not smart to take the risk.

That is my opinion, though.



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User currently offlineHalls120 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1974 times:



Quoting ArmitageShanks (Thread starter):
If you were able to try one drug what would it be and why

Already had my one and only drug experience.

Back in college, I underwent a surgical procedure, and afterwards - for about 24 hours - I was given some pretty potent demerol as a pain reliever.

I still remember the second injection - at about 3am. The nurse came in because I was in considerable pain. Shortly after administering the dose, I floated halfway between the bed and the ceiling. Looking down at myself, I thought, man, you are in pain, but funny thing is, you don't really give a sh*t, do you? Sometime, when I hear the Tom Petty song "Learning to Fly," I recall that day.  Smile

Later that morning, I asked the doc to give me something a bit less hallucinogenic. He laughed and said no problem.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

When I was a student I worked as a bartender in a pretty famous disco. It was quite normally that you got every drug you want there and beeing the adventuresome guy, I tried of course every drug I could get there (I got stuff offered for free very frequently when I filled up the booze glasses of some dealers without charging). Back then, the area behind the DJ stand was always crowded with employees and VIP guests who smoked or snorted all kind of stuff.

Nowadays I don't touch any hard drug because they all suck. Drinking alcohol and smoking weed is already enough. I am glad that I didn't drift into the drug scene back then, several people asked me if I want to deal for them, I always declined despite I could have earned a shitload of money.

Patrick


User currently offlineManuCH From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 3011 posts, RR: 47
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
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Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4):
Even then I dont want to try NO drug... I just dont want it! I had so many friends trying drugs and they were acting so weird and werent themself anymore... and thats what I HATE about drugs! So no thanks! never ever!

That's my thought, too. I don't like the idea of not being myself, I always want to have full control of what I do. Therefore, no drugs for me, ever. Not even if it didn't have any consequences, and not even hypothetically.

Quoting WILCO737 (Reply 4):

Oh, and might I add: I have never ever tried a cigarette as well... Disgusting...

... and I thought I was the only one  Smile



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User currently offlineBraybuddy From Ireland, joined Aug 2004, 5640 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1874 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 15):
I can't speak for everyone, but I haven't known one "casual" cocaine user

Really? I know several, and I've used it occasionally. It's not a drug I'd seek out, but in the right circumstances, with the right people, I would do a line or two.

Quoting Ogre727 (Reply 18):
I know pooeple who are casual cocain users. I am not lying, and it's not a friend of a friend. I assure you I am not wrong.

Agree completely.

There was a programme on TV here last night where they conduced a survey of 1,200 venues, mostly bars and clubs, and 92% of the premises had traces of cocaine in the toilets. So its use is much more prevalent than people imagine.

Getting back to the question the thread-starter asked: I'd love to try heroin if there were no side effects. I believe the hit is amazing.

I'm amused by the almost hysterical reaction above to drug use. As a couple of posters have pointed out, how many of these people drink or smoke?


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

This is one thread I shouldn't get too involved in. My Mum asked me about 15 years ago what I'd tried, and I told her just about everything once. Which was the truth.

Quoting JetsGo (Reply 3):
Maybe even heroin just too see what those addicts find so great despite its effects.

Let's just say, there's a very good reason why heroin is so very addictive.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

There's only one drug that I've tried, and that's marihuana, though I'm also a regular cigarette smoker and have gotten drunk of a few occasions. Otherwise, even hypothetically, I wouldn't try anything else. So for me, if there was something else I'd do along with nicotine and alcohol, it would be Tetrahydrocannabinol, even though I don't like smoking pot because in my case, it makes me either sick to my stomach or gives me tachycardia.

I feel marihuana should be legalised, particularly because of its medicinal properties.


25 YooYoo : isn't that what "gets ya" ?
26 Post contains images Dougloid : For anyone that wants to try LSD, heroin, booze, etc etc, come on by here. I'll be happy to whack you upside the head with a ball pein hammer because
27 ArmitageShanks : Why do you say that? Jesus Christ people... its a theoretical question. No need for all the hate.
28 Post contains images Braybuddy : Far from it . . .
29 WellHung : Not sure... PCP maybe??
30 Dougloid : No hate involved, my friend. I am sorry that you thought that. It was a statement of fact. You may not yet appreciate it but the human brain is a ver
31 Post contains images Jafa39 : Yup.....I have seen several people end up loopy through LSD and even more through smoking too much weed but the issue here is IF you could do it and
32 CaptOveur : You do know Alcohol is a drug, right? A good friend of mine happens to be a drug recognition expert instructor and he laughed his ass off when I read
33 JetsGo : You're missing the point. The situation is completely hypothetical. I would never try any of these drugs in my real life. However IF there would be N
34 Braybuddy : Intoxicants CAN fuck up your brain, but it's not a given. What the anti-drugs lobby conveniently ignore is that many people go through life, dabbling
35 Post contains images TheCol : If you ever make your way down to East Hastings, try to share that theory of yours with the prostitutes and homeless looking for some quick cash to f
36 Halls120 : It was unbelievable. It's been 35 years, and I remember it like it was yesterday.
37 KiwiinOz : I'm not sure, "the people you know" is a strong enough reference point to support a claim of ignorance. Only about 30% of cocaine users are addicted.
38 Post contains images Sabena332 : They even found lots of traces of coke in the toilets of the German Bundestag. 'Nuff said! Coke is a drug you can use in some special situations (it
39 Post contains images Fumanchewd : I've only tried two illegal drugs. LSD about 13 years ago at the age of 18. Never again. I have done shrooms 4 times. The last time was 7 years ago. M
40 JFKTOWERFAN : Thats easy....Heroin. The power this drug has over people is amazing. They all say they continue to do it chasing after that first high. Corey
41 Dougloid : That's kind of like saying if your auntie had balls she'd be your uncle. As I say, I have seen it from the inside looking out, and that's about all I
42 Braybuddy : Prostitutes and homeless have been around from the year dot. There are many reasons for both, and you can't blame them exclusively on illegal drugs.
43 JetsGo : Well, she would be, wouldn't she?
44 Dougloid : Come to think of it you're right....what a thought.
45 Post contains images JetsGo : Then I say get out there in that hypothetical world and thizzzzz.
46 Post contains images Jafa39 : I think we know for sure now what the effects of drug-use on the brain are...
47 MCOflyer : I approve of the above as this is my final answer. I am proud to be drug free. Yee haw. Kinghunter
48 Dougloid : Nahhhh....the effects wore off long ago, duuuuuuuuuuude. I am uncommonly fond of fornication in all its various and sundry permutations, and good eat
49 Post contains images JetsGo : Guy 1: No, man, I'm just saying... I'm sayin', if-if you own beachfront property, right, do you own, like, the sand and the water? Guy 2: Nobody owns
50 Post contains images SandroZRH : No it's not, at least not over here.
51 TACAA320 : No. Not even alcohol or nicotine.
52 JAGflyer : I would say LSD or magic mushrooms. People who have done them seem have enjoyed it, but I just don't have the courage to do these types of drugs that
53 Post contains images ZakHH : Did I say that cocaine was not dangerous? I guess not, and it was certainly not my intention. But as for your trust into the "someone" who was so gra
54 Jafa39 : Down here ownership of the foreshore and seabed is a hot issue, the Maori claim it as their own and the govt claim it belongs to the crown........per
55 TheCol : If you ask any provincial or municipal health officer, they'll tell you that drug addiction is the number one cause of homelessness and prostitution
56 CaptOveur : Tried it once, it didn't work More than a few people will tell you the suburban starter drug is ritalin. I know most of the drug users we hook up hav
57 Post contains images Seb146 : I have tried everything except heroin, LSD and shrooms. From trying meth, I have a good idea why heroin is so addictive and I don't like halucinating,
58 DLOnur : LSD or mushrooms do no more "harm" to your brain than the chemicals that are put into cigarettes or the way the mind reacts to alcohol in the blood r
59 F9Animal : I love to get high! There is nothing better than being at 35,000 feet. The rush, the calming feeling, and the excitement. That is the only high I need
60 Post contains images Bill142 : Snorting some coco of a chicks belly is the way to go.
61 Post contains images MadameConcorde : What One Drug Would You Try With No Consequences? My answer is: chocolate! Preferably Swiss, preferably Sprungli.
62 Dc10s2hnl : I've done shrooms before whilst camping by the ocean with some friends... it was so incredible! Seeing nature in a whole different, amazing way made
63 Braybuddy : I assume alcohol isn't included in that figure, although it should be. Maybe, being such a widespread and popular drug, it deserves a category of its
64 HickoryShampoo : Viagra. But if there were no consequences, what's the point? Maybe I should go with something more illicit.
65 Kmh1956 : Anybody got any insights into hash?
66 Gunsontheroof : As am I, especially given the preconditions of the thread. Lacking curiosity are we? The (often severe) consequences that come with drug use are all
67 Waterpolodan : Exactly right! Well phrased, Zak, you and I share the same attitude about these things. They're only worth doing if you are happy and balanced, becau
68 TheCol : Alcohol does factor in as well. However, the trick is to figure out the severity of the consequences for each addict.
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