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Questions About Living In The UAE  
User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2909 times:

Hello,

I am thinking of going to UAE to study Flight Dispatch as this country seems to accept non-residents for work. I am concerned about the life style there. I am not sure if it is easy enough for a European woman to live there, don't know much about the restrictions and speacial features of this country. Can anybody who workes and lives there share their experience? That'd be great!

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Longitude

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User currently offlineGh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

The UAE is a fantastic place! I have spent a lot of time in Dubai in particular.

There's not much that you can't do......drink, party/club, shopping, sunbathing on the beach etc. However, going topless on the beach would be crossing the line.

You'll both love it! I miss it anyway.


User currently offlineBigTom From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2006, 597 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

The UAE is by far the best place to live and work in the Gulf. And not to worry, there are plenty of western women who work and have a good life here. Good luck with your plans and in case you decide to come here, welcome to the UAE.

User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10887 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Women living and working in the UAE. This is an interesting topic.

How is it for an older single woman to live in Dubai, Abu Dhabi or Qatar?
Which of the three places is best? More free? Less congested?

What are the jobs available for women? Are multilinguals favored for finding jobs?
Do they need language teachers? Multilingual secretaries?

Is age discrimination the norm?
Can a woman still find a job after 50 other than nannying or cleaning houses?



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2651 times:



Quoting Longitude (Thread starter):
I am concerned about the life style there.



Quoting Longitude (Thread starter):
don't know much about the restrictions and speacial features of this country.

Be extremly careful when it comes to alcohol and drugs. I've read a few pretty scary stories about the laws in the UAE recently. One guy got sentenced to one year in prison because he walked around drunk, another one ended in prison because he pissed on a street-lamp in the desert. The cake takes the case of a guy from Egypt, he got sentenced to four years because he had as little as 0.03 gramms of hashish in his pocket.

The German foreign ministy has a warning for all UAE travellers on their homepage. The can even randomly pick you out at the airport to make a drug test with you (even when you are only transiting from one flight to another), when the test is positive you'll end in prison for at least four years, even when you consumed the drug in another country!

These ridiculous laws are one reason why I will never travel to the UAE again. I've been there twice and nowadays I am pretty happy that I didn't end up in prison there. I also walked around drunk through the streets of Jumeirah and I also smoked weed a few days before I arrived there. I had really luck that I didn't get caught.

Patrick


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2641 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
How is it for an older single woman to live in Dubai, Abu Dhabi or Qatar?
Which of the three places is best? More free? Less congested?

My preference in order is Doha, Abu Dhabi then Dubai . Dubai is chaos and can be difficult to come to grips with.
Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Doha are essentially equal to one another in terms of "western" freedoms.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
What are the jobs available for women? Are multilinguals favored for finding jobs?
Do they need language teachers? Multilingual secretaries?

If you have a professional background with the right experience you can easily find jobs in technology, hospitality, aviation and travel, petroleum and energy and just about any other industry you would be able to find in the west. The amount and nature of work varies from place to place, Dubai being the most accommodating.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
Is age discrimination the norm?
Can a woman still find a job after 50 other than nannying or cleaning houses?

There is a sizable population of older Westerners, both male and female, in the Gulf. Although some companies do follow a subtle phasing out of older personnel this tend to not be the case with any companies in the region that have a true footprint outside the Gulf.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineMsnell From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2641 times:

Just be careful, you do not want any hassle with the law out there. Also as a Western woman, you won't get much support from the police if you are involved in any trouble. I spent 4 months there and while I had a good time, I really had to behave myself. My girlfriend (American) was there for the airshow recently and she was constantly ignored in favour of men and often pushed out of the way. She hates the place!

You can have lots of fun there though, there is a lot to see and do. A tip would be to stick with friends and get taxis instead of walking. Let people know where you'll be and respect the way they do things out there and you should have a good time.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

One thing I forgot to mention is that amongst some of the local population there is a notion that women can be bought. I once had local in the Dubai ask me "how much" for my girlfriend. Quite sad.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10887 posts, RR: 37
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

It is not only in the UAE that women have chosen to become commercial merchandise.  Yeah sure

Quoting YOWza (Reply 7):
I forgot to mention is that amongst some of the local population there is a notion that women can be bought.




There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

Thanks everybody for replies. The situation seems to be a two edged sword. From one side, it is a good place and most people tend to spend there pretty good time, though it seems to me they are mainly talking about hoidays etc. From the other hand, the treatment to Europeans is quite difficult what can make a long being there troubled...
What is a Flight Dispatcher's salary there (in Dubai), who knows?

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 4):
One guy got sentenced to one year in prison because he walked around drunk, another one ended in prison because he pissed on a street-lamp in the desert. The cake takes the case of a guy from Egypt, he got sentenced to four years because he had as little as 0.03 gramms of hashish in his pocket.

Well, actually I can see many positive things in it. It means that the country protects itself from drunk people walking around who may cause somebody harm, for example, driving in such a condition. About hashish I think that they are completely right. It IS a drug.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 4):
The can even randomly pick you out at the airport to make a drug test with you (even when you are only transiting from one flight to another), when the test is positive you'll end in prison for at least four years, even when you consumed the drug in another country!

These ridiculous laws are one reason why I will never travel to the UAE again.

Again I dont think that a random picking up people for the drug test at the airport is a bad thing. It protects the country from drug dealers coming into and so on. I wouldn't mind me having a drug test as I don't use them Smile. But it is only if I understand what you mean by drug correctly Smile) If you mean a medicine, what I doubt, then I would rather agree with you Smile

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
How is it for an older single woman to live in Dubai, Abu Dhabi or Qatar?

Dear MadameConcorde,

If you decide to go to UAE we could probably co-operate as Msnell advised Smile :

Quoting Msnell (Reply 6):
A tip would be to stick with friends



User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10887 posts, RR: 37
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2588 times:

I could more than easily pass as your mother as I am over two times your age!  Big grin

Quoting Longitude (Reply 9):
Dear MadameConcorde,
If you decide to go to UAE we could probably co-operate as Msnell advised

If I chose to go to the UAE I would drop Dubai, much too congested and built up. I would like somewhere more quiet where there is still a lot of work to be found. I don't see what else to be done in the UAE except working and earning money.

Now the cost of living vs. earnings has to be taken into consideration. I am sure that rents, transport and food are not cheap down there. I even wonder if one can live without a car and if there is any decent public transport infrastructure.



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2566 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 10):
If I chose to go to the UAE I would drop Dubai

Something tells me that Dubai is where I will go Smile))
And I am also wondering about the cost of living, salaries, etc...


User currently offlineGh123 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2547 times:



Quoting Longitude (Reply 11):
Something tells me that Dubai is where I will go

Good for you! I love the place. Also bear in mind that there is NO INCOME TAX!!!


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2544 times:



Quoting Longitude (Reply 9):
Well, actually I can see many positive things in it. It means that the country protects itself from drunk people walking around who may cause somebody harm, for example, driving in such a condition.

I hate drunk drivers, too. But what's the point to trow people into jail who are walking around in drunk condition? When I've been there we walked from one bar to another, it is quite normally that you are drunk at some point and somehow you have to get back to your hotel which means that you have to walk around drunk, either to the taxi stand or directly to your hotel. They should ban alcohol in general when they don't want people who are drunk. But when they would ban alcohol in general, then half (or more) of the Westerners who work there would leave.

Quoting Longitude (Reply 9):
Again I dont think that a random picking up people for the drug test at the airport is a bad thing. It protects the country from drug dealers coming into and so on.

So, let's assume you are a citizen of the Netherlands where smoking weed is legal. You smoke in Amsterdam, fly to Dubai just to connect to a flight to - let's say - Australia, you get picked out for a random drug test, they test you positive and you end up for at least four years in jail. Do you think that is is ok? It is ridiculous IMO.

Quoting Longitude (Reply 9):
But it is only if I understand what you mean by drug correctly) If you mean a medicine, what I doubt, then I would rather agree with you Smile

Some medicines are also illegal there according to the German foreign ministry. You need an - in Arabic - translated confirmation from your doctor which says that you need this certain medicine. Be very careful what you bring into this country!

Dubai (and the rest of the UAE) seems to be a very modern country on the first look, but in reality it's a society which has laws that are from the stone age. I will never set a foot into this country again, even not for just changing planes.

Patrick


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4865 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2540 times:



Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 8):
It is not only in the UAE that women have chosen to become commercial merchandise.

Well those that whore themselves out are one thing. But having random people go up to women they don't know and asking "how much" is not the same thing.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineEmirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1449 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2531 times:



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):

Dubai (and the rest of the UAE) seems to be a very modern country on the first look, but in reality it's a society which has laws that are from the stone age. I will never set a foot into this country again, even not for just changing planes.

I was born and brought up in dubai and had friends from all over the world. Walking on the streets after a beer is no issue, being drunk and wavering on the street defiantly is prohibited with good reason. I agree with the drugs policy as well, but ot for the transfer passengers.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 14):
Well those that whore themselves out are one thing. But having random people go up to women they don't know and asking "how much" is not the same thing.

Sadly some of the locals think that money can buy everything.



The Truth is Out There ---- Face It!!!!!
User currently offlineLongitude From Russia, joined Nov 2007, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2495 times:



Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 13):
So, let's assume you are a citizen of the Netherlands where smoking weed is legal. You smoke in Amsterdam, fly to Dubai just to connect to a flight to - let's say - Australia, you get picked out for a random drug test, they test you positive and you end up for at least four years in jail. Do you think that is is ok? It is ridiculous IMO.

Patrick, I still think it is not so bad. If you're travelling from Amsterdam, you have to study things you can and cannot do while transferring via other countries and so on. Once you know drugs are prohibited in UAE simply don't use them when you fly there. I don't think it is very difficult. Smile But from the other hand I would agree with you that people who did a legal action in their country can be put in prison. This is too much, right.


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