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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1684 times:

So I just found out that my black lab/shepard mix had cancer. It's inoperable, and we don't know how long she has left. I'm still getting over my beagle who had to be put down literally 12 hours before I moved up to school for the first time. I am so upset, I already swore off religion cursed God, and evened trashed a prayer card. My dad says I'm being melodramatic, but so many bad things have happened to me in the past couple years, and this news really is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Oh, and when I told my parents that tonight, if I go out with friends, I'm planning to get more drunk than I have ever been, they pretty much hit the ceiling.

How do you handle news like this? How do you look forward to anything?

Marc

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User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6533 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

When our family dog, Joe, who we had for 10 years, was put to sleep without me knowing three months after Katrina, I felt like the whole damn world was against me. I was working at the airport, and I knew he was at the vets, but didn't have a clue as to how serious it was until I got a call from my mom saying they just put him to sleep. It felt like a bulldozer ran me over. I was a wreck for weeks. I ended up writing out every good memory I had of him, and I have it saved to this day. We made a little memorial for him and the letter is there along with bunch of pictures and assorted toys. As the weeks moved on, things got better. I said i'll be damned if we ever got another dog again, but about four months later we did. Same breed (Boxer), and remarkably, Joe #2 has virtually the same mannerisms as Joe #1. And they even look very much alike. My dad used to say Joe #1 has been reincarnated. It's funny how things work out like that sometimes.

My advice to you....spend as much time as you can with your dog, and try to just think about all the good memories. It will be incredibly difficult to get over, I'm not going to lie. But in time the sadness will turn into something better. Believe me it will. I've been there. If I can get through it you can.

[Edited 2007-12-21 08:48:39]

[Edited 2007-12-21 08:51:12]

User currently offlineBeaucaire From Syria, joined Sep 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

It's a sad and terrible moment when you have to face serious illness of a loved animal.
Our dog Diane also had a cancer methastase and we had her operated ten days ago and removed the cancer.
We knew since some years that she had cancer and treated her with natural medicine from

http://www.beljanski.com/eng/beljanski.html
He used to be a genius in cancer -research and developed natural remedies that if not cure it,retards it significantly (humans and animals )
The former president Mitterand used his remedies but they are officially forbidden in France but can be ordered in the USA.
Speak to your dog as if you would speak to a human being-animals understand what we say,provided we don't use children's language.Explain to your dog what's going on -he most likely knows about his illness already for a long time through his instincts anyhow.Dont feed your dog with too much meat-even dog's love non-meat food and it's easier to digest.Cancer is very often caused by wrong nutrition.
I don't know how far the desease is preventing your dog from normal movement .But if you feel he is handicaped,don't overstretch his effords .If the cancer can be removed,go for the extra efford,since the removal will delay the impact of the cancer to spread.



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User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

That's terrible news, and really, I can feel your pain. But if you want my honest opinion...

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
I am so upset, I already swore off religion cursed God, and evened trashed a prayer card. My dad says I'm being melodramatic

... and right he is.

I don't know what exactly "God" is, and I am not so presumptuous to claim that I would understand his ways. But still, I am quite sure that, no matter whom and what he really is, he has better things to do than to torture you, or to kill your dog.

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
Oh, and when I told my parents that tonight, if I go out with friends, I'm planning to get more drunk than I have ever been, they pretty much hit the ceiling.

How do you handle news like this?

NOT by getting drunk. Drinking is for times where your state of mind is balanced. Getting wasted with some friends can be really fun then. Trying to use alcohol as means to flee from reality will never improve things.

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
How do you look forward to anything?

Try to keep your head clear. Reassure yourself that, no matter what, your dog would have died one day anyway. Yes, it is sad that it has to be now, but would not have been less sad at any later stage.

Think of the happy moments you spent with your dog. That is what should remain in your mind - not bitterness about his death.

And keep in mind that dogs have an extremely good sense for the mood of their owners. Giving yourself up in mourning is the last thing your dog will need now, and it sure is not the last impression you want to give him in his life.

Keep the head up. Death is an integral part of life. The only way to cope with it is to accept it. I'm not saying this is easy, but it's the only way that works.

Good luck to you!


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1638 times:

I am terribly sorry about your dog. Having a dog-child myself, I can totally relate to your pain. Our dog is getting up in years -- she's 13-- and has an adrenal tumor and I know that "one day" that awful decision will have to be made.

Big hugs to you.

However, when you say things like this:

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
Oh, and when I told my parents that tonight, if I go out with friends, I'm planning to get more drunk than I have ever been

of course your parents are going to

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
pretty much hit the ceiling.

Getting drunk beyond belief may dull the pain for a while, but it puts you and others around you in danger, particularly if you are insistent in driving somewhere. You could get alcohol poisoning, and drink yourself to death. Not only that, the dog will still be dying when you resume conciousness, so it really doesn't help matters anyway.

As far as handling this kind of news, at least look at it from the dog's perspective. She is likely in pain or major discomfort. Wouldn't it be better for her if she were out of her misery? Given the love you have for her, it is clear you have provided her a very good life filled with love, comfort and joy, so you can at least feel good about having given her that.

You are young, but you will learn over time that bad things happen in life, but life is also filled with many good things, some very unexpected. With experience you will see that it is possible to get through something like this and then be able to look forward to things again.


User currently offlineWolverine From Germany, joined Aug 2006, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

I lost 2 cats, and I'm still not getting over it. One of them, named Tiger, was 11 years, as he left us.
Since he was a kitten, he suffered from vomiting from time to time, but 2 weeks before he passed away, it got worse.
He vomited old blood, they said, they will give him some painkillers and some vitamines. But he died two days later.

The other was Gizmo, only 3 years of age, he was always healthy. One day we found him in the backyard, he could not get enough oxygen anymore. So we called the Vet. As he arrived, Gizmo was nearly dead, so the Vet put him to sleep.

Spend a lot of time with your dog, show her that you love her and that you will stay at her side. It will be hard, letting her go, and it will take a lot of time, to get over it. Sometimes I think, I won't ever get over it.
After Gizmo passed away, we did not want to have cats anymore, but it only took a few month and we got another cat. Right now, we have 3.

Good luck to you! And I hope there will be a lot of time left for you and your dog!



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1590 times:

Thanks to everyone for their kind words and support. My dog is still full of life and energy, and even the vet said that she wouldn't put the dog to sleep right now. But when I asked her how long we have, she said we're most likely talking months at most. Who knows, maybe God does exist and is in the mood to perform a miracle...

Quoting 767Lover (Reply 4):
Getting drunk beyond belief may dull the pain for a while, but it puts you and others around you in danger, particularly if you are insistent in driving somewhere.

Have no fears, anyone, I do not drive - I can't afford insurance. But even if I did drive, I would give the keys to someone else once I had even one drink. If I ever did drive while drunk, and hurt or killed someone in an accident, I would never be able to live with myself, so to prevent that from ever happening, I have promised myself that I won't let it happen.

Marc


User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1152 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1582 times:



Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 6):
Thanks to everyone for their kind words and support. My dog is still full of life and energy, and even the vet said that she wouldn't put the dog to sleep right now. But when I asked her how long we have, she said we're most likely talking months at most. Who knows, maybe God does exist and is in the mood to perform a miracle...

I'm terribly sorry to hear the news, as having 3 dogs myself I absolutely dread the day that I hear that kind of news or have to make the awful decision. Keep your dog comfortable and enjoy your time with her. Don't forget that she knows you love her. Dogs just know and they never forget.


User currently offlineF9Animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5001 posts, RR: 28
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1571 times:



Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
So I just found out that my black lab/shepard mix had cancer. It's inoperable, and we don't know how long she has left. I'm still getting over my beagle who had to be put down literally 12 hours before I moved up to school for the first time. I am so upset, I already swore off religion cursed God, and evened trashed a prayer card. My dad says I'm being melodramatic, but so many bad things have happened to me in the past couple years, and this news really is the straw that broke the camel's back.

Oh, and when I told my parents that tonight, if I go out with friends, I'm planning to get more drunk than I have ever been, they pretty much hit the ceiling.

How do you handle news like this? How do you look forward to anything?

Marc

Hey Marc,

I am sorry to hear about your pet. I would suggest giving your animal as much love as possible, and enjoy every minute with your pet. There is nothing more painful than losing a pet. Hang in there buddy, and give the dog lots of loves.



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User currently offlineAA777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2544 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1513 times:
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I'm so sorry to hear this! Just over a year ago I found out that my dog, Oscar, had terminal kidney failure. I was so upset... I basically collapsed when I found out. I really couldnt believe it... but for over the next month, we worked closely with the vets to give him the best vet care we could. I learned how to give him fluids and I cooked him food every single day so that he would eat. . . he stopped eating dog food and would only eat what I cooked him at the end. His condition made it hard for him to have an appetite b/c of nausea. Anyway, I spent as much time with him as possible and took care of him until his last day. Now, I feel really good that I was able to be with him through it all and take care of him. He was such a good dog and I loved him so much...it was the least I could do. You'll both know when the time has come, and as hard as it is... the decision to end their suffering is the most humane thing you can do for them. The day we had to put him to sleep was such an awful day. But I think he's better now, and I would not want him to continue suffering the way he was. Again i'm so sorry to hear this news... its like losing a family member. But as everyone says...spend as much time with him as possible and make him comfortable.... hug and play with him all the time and make him know he's loved! Thats the best thing you can do.

-AA777


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1642 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1464 times:
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Putting a pet to sleep is the hardest thing I have ever had to do. My wife and I have lost a few pets over the years, cats, dogs and even a horse and it never gets easy. Our recent losses have been our brother and sister cats, he lived to 16 and she to 18 and both developed cancer.

But ultimately we realized that they had lived out their natural lives and with that thought it helped us get through the grieving of their loss. They were born at the barn where my wife boarded her horse and if we had not adopted them, who knows how long they would have lived if some else got them, especially if they were allowed outside, we do not let out cats outside, they are indoor cats.

We decided not to replace them immediately, but waited 2 months and then adopted from a local shelter two 12 week old unrelated kittens. We feel that we have now given our new cats a chance to live out their natural lives like we did with our last 2 and they are now 5 years old.

While you did not state how old your dog is, if she is, if she is 10 or more years old then you have to look at the fact that she has lived a lot of dog years, so spend as much quality time with her as you can.

As a side note, you can ask your vet if there are any cancer specialists in your area, there are veterinarians who are board certified oncologists. Dogs and cats respond to chemo treatments for certain cancers quite well, sometimes driving the cancer into remission. Our male cat lived over 3 years after the cancer diagnosis because of the chemo treatments so we were able to borrow him for these 3 additional years.

If your local vet does not know of any oncologists, the web site to find them is
http://www.acvim.org/Specialist/Search.aspx


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1451 times:



Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
I am so upset, I already swore off religion cursed God, and evened trashed a prayer card.

It stinks losing a pet, but that's too much, period.

Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
My dad says I'm being melodramatic

And I agree.

A couple of simple tips should go a long way - if you don't have a digital camera, then get one. Take a lot of pics of you w/your dog (if you haven't already) and those will be good keepsakes. Another thing is to treat the dog the normal kind way any pet (or anyone) likes to be treated, of course - keeping the dog in good spirits will help you both.


User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1424 times:



Quoting Jetstar (Reply 10):
While you did not state how old your dog is

Precious will be 4 years old on Christmas.

Marc


User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1642 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
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I have found after owning pets for over 30 years that most veterinarians are the equivalent of human doctor GP’s, they are just basic doctors. Also did the your vet do a biopsy or any other tests to confirm the cancer and if it has spread throughout her body.

At her young age I would suggest that you at least take her to a veterinarian oncologist for a second opinion, at least you will have the satisfaction of knowing that you did the best for her. If there is a treatment available, they will let you know what her chances for survival are, also I would warn you that unless you have any pet health insurance, the treatments can be a little on the high side.

Your profile says you are in the Philadelphia area, I would recommend the Matthew J. Ryan Veterinary Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania, 39th & Spruce Streets, Philadelphia, PA. They are one of the top rated veterinary hospitals in the country and if anyone can help Precious, I think they are the one to go to. I did a quick check online and the university has a board certified oncologist on staff.

There are also board certified oncologists at the Veterinary Oncology Services & Research Center in W. Chester, PA and the Center for Animal Referral and Emergency Services in Langhorne PA.

I found from talking to our cat’s oncologist that pure breeds of dogs are more prone to cancers than mutts, she told us that inbreeding has created a genetic defect in a lot of breeds, with golden retrievers the most prevalent. So there is a chance that your dog also has a genetic defect, most cancers in dogs and cats occur in their late years so it is quite surprising that she has cancer at that early age.

Dogs and cats with cancer take chemo treatments very well, we as humans understand what that the effects of chemo treatments are so we can take large doses of chemo. In dogs and cats they don’t understand why they are feeling sick from the chemo so they are given smaller does over a longer period of time for quality of life. The oncologists goal is to drive the cancer into remission, not get rid of it, but I have met people at the oncologists office whose dogs and cats were cancer free after a year or more of completion of treatment and they were there for an annual checkup.


User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1377 times:



Quoting Cadet985 (Thread starter):
How do you handle news like this? How do you look forward to anything?

Marc, I am so sorry to hear about your dog! I can't give you the answers as to how to handle this news or how you will look forward to things. What I can tell you is to enjoy the time you have left with her.

Animals give you such unconditional love that you have a bond with them like no other. Just try and remember all the fun times and that when the time comes you'll know what has to be done. You probably read my post in mid-November when I posted that my little buddy had passed away. I am still heartbroken and I know it is going to take me a long time. But she went in her sleep totally unknown to me that this was going to happen.

My heart and prayers go out to you and I hope you stay strong for her.

Take care

Vaporlock


User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

 Sad I'm really, really sorry to hear about this Marc. Just wanted to let you know that I'll keep you and your family in m prayers  pray 

All the best to you,
Dave



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1551 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

Thanks for all the prayers and everything. We just got back from the vet. She was having so much trouble breathing that we had to do it  cry  . I couldn't bear to be in the room with her when it happened, but my dad was.

There goes the only true friend I had outside of my friends up at college.

Now to be depressed for who knows how long.

Marc


User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11446 posts, RR: 76
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1335 times:
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Cadet...I'm so sorry about your friend. I know how I felt when I had to put my beloved friend Roxy down a couple of years ago about the same time of year. It was horrible and I'm ready to cry now.

What got me through it was knowing I was making the best decision for Roxy, who had given me 12 years of unconditional love and affection....and was counting on me to make the right decision for her...to keep her from suffering needlessly because in nature she would have died years previous and was alive because I was taking her to the vet.

I can't say what you're feeling, but if it's anywhere close to what I felt, then my heart bleeds for you. Spend the time this season remembering what you and your friend did together and the goodness that animal brought to you. Don't waste too much time in self-pity or drunken anger. If you got 12 years then that's a fairly long time for a dog, and you did the right thing. Hold on to the good times.

When you're ready then remember that there are hundreds of new friends waiting for you at local shelters and rescues.



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User currently offlineJetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1642 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1330 times:
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My condolences Cadet, the loss of a pet is quite often taken very hard because we consider them family members, but in your case she was so young makes it even worse, but in her condition it was the right thing to do by not letting her suffer any more.

User currently offlineVaporlock From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1314 times:



Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 16):
Thanks for all the prayers and everything. We just got back from the vet. She was having so much trouble breathing that we had to do it . I couldn't bear to be in the room with her when it happened, but my dad was.

There goes the only true friend I had outside of my friends up at college.

Now to be depressed for who knows how long.

Marc, I'm sorry to hear the news. Just try and remember that you were a great friend to her and that you will never forget her.... now you have to try and think of all the fun things that you both shared. No one can take away those memories and you know she would want you to always be you!

God Bless you and remember....she will always be with you!

Phyllis


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