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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Posted (7 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

... make the clear clip on thing for red passes cheap plastic?

Yesterday was cold, about -25c, and when I was doing Air Canada I hit my pass on the scan thing so I could get in the door on the bridge, and the damn clip cracked and off goes the red pass. Luckily it fell inside so I didn't have to go chasing it, but still. To do the rest I had to carry it around like an idiot, and now I have to go all the way over to security and get another clip.
Apparently it's mandatory that it is fully visible on you, but once it gets cold they seem to want to crack and fall off with ease.

Also one of my coworkers last week his actual red pass itself split in two right down the middle. Damnit plastic.

/rant.

Anyone else had this problem?


CanadianNorth


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User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1835 times:

I guess technically it would be Alexander Parkes', the inventor of the first plastic, fault.

That does seem like a stupid idea in the cold winter's you face in Whitehorse.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1804 times:

For those not familiar with this topic, please post a picture of the object in question.

Thanks,

Hunter



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1745 times:



Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
For those not familiar with this topic, please post a picture of the object in question.

Don't have a photo, but it's really easy to picture. Red pass is just a plastic security pass with your picture, number, expiry date, and some fancy computerized crap stored in it that has your biometrics for scanning in to get access to the restricted area and to unlock the doors that require a security pass to get through. Basically it's like a piece of photo ID that can open doors leading to and within restricted areas at the airport.
It has to be visible at all times in restricted areas, so they give you a clear plastic pouch with a little clip on the top so you can clip it onto your shirt/jacket/whatever.


CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineJamesbuk From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 3968 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1736 times:

Why not replace the plastic clip with a paper clip?

rgds --James--



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (7 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1729 times:



Quoting Jamesbuk (Reply 4):
Why not replace the plastic clip with a paper clip?

Thought of that, but a) you can just waddle over to security and they'll hand you a new clip, and b) I'm not sure if a paper clip would hold up. When you have to fold 60 seatbelts, wipe 60 trays, check 60 seatpockets and swiffer the cabin of a 737 in 15 minutes, you do a heck of a lot of moving around in tight areas, and don't have time to deal with your pass falling off.


CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (7 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1723 times:



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 3):
Don't have a photo, but it's really easy to picture. Red pass is just a plastic security pass with your picture, number, expiry date, and some fancy computerized crap stored in it that has your biometrics for scanning in to get access to the restricted area and to unlock the doors that require a security pass to get through. Basically it's like a piece of photo ID that can open doors leading to and within restricted areas at the airport.

Ohhhh you mean a SIDA. Get a sturdy lanyard. I use lanyards alot.



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User currently offlineCzbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 982 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

Good to see there's tonnes of security in Whitehorse- that hotbed of truant and wayward would-be nasties!  Wink
Actually, I was thinking about you and your -25c to -30c (0F or so) recently... reminded me of my joyous times beating my way through the winds on the ramp in winter in YOW in -25c evenings.....
Stay warm- and I second the lanyard trick.


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (7 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.


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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (7 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1552 times:



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 8):
What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.

I do use the arm as well. My parka has a small pocket on the left arm, and I usually keep my red pass clipped onto that.
Tried the lanyard when I started , but a) it was in the way doing seats and b) on lavs it always wanted to dive right in...


CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineTheCol From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 2039 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (7 years 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1526 times:



Quoting CanadianNorth (Thread starter):

A number of my co-workers have had that issue over the past month or so. I just got a new clip in September, and it's already useless.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 2):
please post a picture of the object in question.

I doubt anybody will be doing that anytime soon.



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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1478 times:



Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 9):
red pass

Why not just call it a SIDA badge? That sort of confused me at first of what a 'red pass' was.....



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User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (7 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1471 times:



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 11):
Why not just call it a SIDA badge? That sort of confused me at first of what a 'red pass' was.....

Well to be honest, at work I've never heard it called anything other than "red pass". Around here I've never heard "SIDA" used, not even once, meanwhile I've heard "red pass" probably a hundred times.



CanadianNorth



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1444 times:

How about moving to a place with warmer weather?  Wink


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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31712 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Use transparent Net twine as the Backup.

regds
MEL



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User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1260 times:

The plastic sheath they give you for your RAIC is crap. Mine broke within three months of getting it. I never went back to get another one. My lead was kind enough to get me a leather holder for it, which is what I wear now. It's a flip open deal with two pockets on the inside - good enough to hold all my various passes. Oddly enough, security has never given me a hard time about not having the card openly displayed.

The arm band holder isn't too bad an idea either. Just have to be careful that it doesn't come off while you're moving about the cabin.



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12284 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (6 years 12 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
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Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 8):
What about wearing it around your arm on the outside. A lot of rampers wear them that way. It is still accessible for swiping and stays out of the way when cleaning a/c.

That's what I use. Since they're proximity cards, my badge never needs to come out, I just lean up against the reader. It is a life saver when you almost send your badge to GFK  Silly



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