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NFL Week 16-How'd Team Do?  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (7 years 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

Down to the wire in the '07 season.

The Giants rally for 21 in the 4th to stun the Bills.
Da Bears destroy the Pack, giving Dallas Home Field.
Philly all but elimiates New Orleans.


And, in a span of about 40 seconds, Derrick Anderson took the Browns out of control of their own destiny. Anderson three 4 INT's, two of them within the last 90 seconds of the first half, that lead to 13 Cincinnati points, and the Browns second half rally came up short, losing to Cincy 19-14. The two picks were absolutely horrible passes, and now the Browns have to hope Tennessee loses today, or that the Browns win next week, and the Titans lose next week.

What's up with your team?

[Edited 2007-12-23 15:06:50]

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User currently offlinePAHS200 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 513 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1635 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
The Giants rally for 21 in the 4th to stun the Bills.

:D that was a great game.. hope they keep it going in the playoffs


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1634 times:

The bad news for the Browns: they lost and Tennesse won.

The good news: the Browns are at home next week against the 49ers; the Titans travel to Indy to meet the Colts.  Big grin


User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1153 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1627 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 2):
The good news: the Browns are at home next week against the 49ers; the Titans travel to Indy to meet the Colts.

After the egg the Browns laid this week against the lowly Bengals, I wouldn't take the 49ers for granted. They are playing significantly better with Shaun Hill at the helm. Indy has absolutely nothing to play for, and Manning probably won't play more than a half, neither will Addai.


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1623 times:



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 3):
After the egg the Browns laid this week against the lowly Bengals, I wouldn't take the 49ers for granted.

The egg was laid by D.A., no one else, really. The defense only gave up 6 points; the Browns moved the ball at will; the Bengels really did nothing without those two picks deep in Browns territory. They didn't take the Bengels lightly, I'm convinced, and they're at home next week, where they've been tough as nails since week #1. They won't be overconfident, but they will win that one, I'm pretty sure. They know what's on the line.


User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2477 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

I love my 'Fins but they showed why they are 1-14 today. If it weren't for mental blunders they might have kept it close.


Just when I think you've said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talkin'!
User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1153 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1617 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 4):
but they will win that one, I'm pretty sure.

Of course you're pretty sure, you're a Browns fan.  Wink Last year the 49ers spoiled the Broncos' playoff hopes, and this year they might do it to the Browns.

I'd actually prefer the Browns make it to the playoffs rather than the Titans, who are really a pretty lousy 9-6 team, and horrifically boring to watch. But I'd never root against my 49ers, especially since I want the Patriots to get the worst 1st round pick as humanly possible, since the Niners' pick is going to the Pats.


User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (7 years 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 1610 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
The Giants rally for 21 in the 4th to stun the Bills.

With that win they are in the playoffs! And how about rookie RB Ahmad Bradsahw? He looked very good!

Got a question about next weeks Giants vs Pats game. Will it be on TV at all in the NY metro area? They said the game will be on the NFL network, but I don't have that channel. Maybe another NY channel will carry it?



Don't give up don't ever give up - Jim Valvano
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3363 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (7 years 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

Hehe, well everything couldn't have happened better for my teams this weekend.

The Cowboys won on Saturday, and got some help from the Bears/Pack Special Teams today to seal up home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

My Titans won a(nother) hard fought game against the lowly Jets. I'm pretty disgusted with the Titans offensively (I don't feel like they're using VY's strengths), but their defense has looked really good (certainly better than everybody predicted). Thanks to some help from Derrick Anderson and the Browns, the Titans control their own destiny (sounds familiar...see week 17 last season), but have to travel to RCA to play the Colts. Honestly, I kind of like the Titans chances in this one. Historically, at least recent history, has seen this series played VERY tightly. As I recall, the last 3 games have been decided by < 7 points combined. The Colts have nothing to play for, and the Titans have everything to play for. Dungy has been very conservative in games like this, not risking injury to key players. The Titans could very well capitalize on the Colts sans Manning and Addai, among others. We'll know next Sunday. Looking forward to it!

Go Titans!!!!!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineTsaord From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (7 years 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

I 'can't believe we gave the Packers 2 of their 3 losses so far this season lol. Lovie is 4-0 at Green Bay. We own the Packers for now hehehehehehehehe.

Now whats this I hear about some returner at the Pats/Dolphins game getting hit in the face with the ball?? lmao


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3363 posts, RR: 46
Reply 10, posted (7 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1587 times:



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 6):
Of course you're pretty sure, you're a Browns fan. Wink Last year the 49ers spoiled the Broncos' playoff hopes, and this year they might do it to the Browns.

Actually, it doesn't matter what happens in the Browns game. If the Browns lose, and the Titans win, the Titans are in by virtue of outright record. If the Browns win, and the Titans win, the Titans are in by virtue of the 3th tiebreaker. If the Browns lose and the Titans lose, the Browns are in by virtue of the 2nd tiebreaker. If the Browns win and the Titans lose, the Browns are in by virtue of outright record.

The 2nd and 4th tiebreakers are applicable. Even if both teams lose, they'll both be 9-7. The tiebreaker comes to the record vs. conference tiebreaker. Since the Browns have completed their conference schedule, their game next week doesn't really matter whatsoever. The Titans play an AFC team (Colts). If they win, they'll also be 7-5 in conference, and the tiebreaker would continue to the record vs. common opponents tiebreaker, where the Titans win that tiebreaker. If not, they'd be 6-6 which would be less than the 7-5 Browns, thus the Browns win the tiebreaker.

Just some insight into the process.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (7 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1581 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 10):
If the Browns win, and the Titans win, the Titans are in by virtue of the 3th tiebreaker. If the Browns lose and the Titans lose, the Browns are in by virtue of the 2nd tiebreaker.

That's can't be right. The Browns and Titans both have the same record now. If they end up with the same record, are you telling me there are TWO set of tie-breaking rules here? If they both win, the Titans go, but if they both lose, the Browns go?

That's crazy. LOL.

And I see how you got there-but it's still nuts!


User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2059 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (7 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1577 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
That's crazy. LOL.

Well, here are the rules if you can follow them!!! Note the final tie breaker is a coin toss!!!

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.


Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the three Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss.



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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (7 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 1571 times:

Giants are heading to the playoffs for the third straight year- now they actually need to advance a round or two. Washington looks as though they'll hang on to beat Minnesota, which will hopefully allow the Giants to play Tampa in the first round instead of Seattle. (I think the Giants stand a much better chance of winning against the Bucs than the Seahawks).
Next week's game against the Patriots doesn't mean anything now to the Giants, at least as far as getting into the playoffs is concerned. On one hand, it would be nice if the Giants were the ones to wreck the Pats perfect season, but I don't think that will happen. If the Giants show-up to play, the Pats will clean up the floor with them, so it's a good thing the Giants clinched today. The Giants would be better off resting their starters and saving them for the games that really matter in January.

And my Bengals played spoiler on the Browns today. WHO-DEY! Not the prettiest win, but whatever it takes I guess. Next weeks game against Miami means nothing for either team though. Maybe the Bengals will be better off losing it for draft pick purposes, but I hope they don't play with that mentality. At least the Dolphins have already won a game so I don't have to worry about them being the ones to give the Dolphins their first win (thank you BAL!)


User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1153 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (7 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1566 times:



Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 10):
Just some insight into the process.

Thanks for the update--I hadn't mentally updated the conference games today after each team played.

If anyone cares, I was leafing through my 2005 NFL Record & Fact Book (I have each edition from 1990-2007, but can't find my most recent ones right now, I'm a dork lol), and the furthest a tiebreaker has ever gone that I can find was in 1977, when the Bears beat out the Redskins based on better net points in conference games (+48 to +4). The tiebreaking procedures may have been changed, but that is #7 on the current list!


User currently offlineUH60FtRucker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (7 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1563 times:



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 6):
specially since I want the Patriots to get the worst 1st round pick as humanly possible, since the Niners' pick is going to the Pats.

Yeah, don't you love it!?  Silly

Patriots: 15-0. Going to the Meadowlands next week, but the freakin game is Saturday on the NFL network. So excluding the crowd, only a few hundred thousand will see the game. What a joke.


Tom Brady is two away from breaking the TD record.

Randy Moss is two away from breaking the TD reception record.

Patriots are six points away from the most points scored in a season.

Patriots have broken the record for most touchdowns in a season.

Patriots have tied their own record for most consecutive wins.

And so many other records were broken this season. Absolutely amazing. And there is a good chance I will be there in NY to see the game!!!

-UH60


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 16, posted (7 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Assuming the Redskins go on to beat the Vikes (they're up 32-14 in the fourth)...then the Saints are still alive...barely. They need to win at Chicago next Sunday, then have both the Skins and the Vikes lose.

Btw, regarding the Pats/Giants game on TV...if the game is sold out, and I assume it is or will be, then it will be on local NYC TV on an over-the-air station. Of course, it should already be on a local NE station (as it's an away game). NFL Network for the other 27 people across the nation who pick it up.

Tom at MSY (on the CrackBerry)



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User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3363 posts, RR: 46
Reply 17, posted (7 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1546 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
That's can't be right. The Browns and Titans both have the same record now. If they end up with the same record, are you telling me there are TWO set of tie-breaking rules here? If they both win, the Titans go, but if they both lose, the Browns go?

Hehe, it's twisted, isn't it.

If the Titans win and Browns lose, the Titans will be 10-6, and the Browns 9-7, thus no tiebreaker is needed.

If the Browns and Titans win, they'll continue to have the same record, which will be 10-6. They'll also both be 7-5 in conference. As that record in conference is the 2nd tiebreaker step, as GuitrThree noted, after the non-applicable head-to-head, they'd move to the third, which is the record against common opponents. The common opponents are Cincinnati, Oakland, and Houston. Cleveland played Cincinnati twice, Tennessee played Houston twice. The combined record for Cleveland is 2-2, while Tennessee is 3-1. Therefore, Tennessee wins the tiebreaker, and the final wild card spot.

If the Titans lose and the Browns win, the Browns will be 10-6, and the Titans 9-7, thus no tiebreaker is needed.

If the Browns and Titans lose, they'll continue to have the same record, which will be 9-7. However, since the Titans final game is against an AFC opponent, unlike Cleveland, it will alter their record against Conference opponents. The Browns will remain 7-5, while the Titans would drop to 6-6. Therefore, Cleveland wins the tiebreaker, and the final wild card spot.

I think you understood all of this to begin with, and were more just surprised, but here it is anyway, just in case.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (7 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
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Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
What's up with your team?

Seahawks won 26-7 over the Ravens, and they'd be in much better shape had they beat the Panthers and the Browns. Just goes to show, you've got to win on the road

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 9):
'can't believe we gave the Packers 2 of their 3 losses so far this season lol.

Maybe the Cowboys sent their secret weapon, Jessica Simpson up to Soldier Field for a Packers game?



Made from jets!
User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (7 years 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Da Bears!

Oh man...even in one of his worse seasons, Lovie Smith can still stick his foot up the Pack's collective @ss!  Smile

So where are those who predicted the Bears would be picked apart?  Wink

Hope Favre dresses light for his trip to Dallas. Have Simpson stay at home.  Smile  Smile

Ha-Haaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

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User currently offlineHickoryShampoo From Djibouti, joined Dec 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (7 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1542 times:

The Texans played a magnificent game through the first possession. The rest was unremarkable.  expressionless 

In the fantasy league Peyton had Terrell over for chips and teabagging while they watched the playoffs on his new plasma. Still waiting for my refund, Drew.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 1534 times:



Quoting Falcon84 (Thread starter):
or that the Browns win next week, and the Titans lose next week.

The outcome of the Browns game won't matter.

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 10):
Actually, it doesn't matter what happens in the Browns game. If the Browns lose, and the Titans win, the Titans are in by virtue of outright record. If the Browns win, and the Titans win, the Titans are in by virtue of the 3th tiebreaker. If the Browns lose and the Titans lose, the Browns are in by virtue of the 2nd tiebreaker. If the Browns win and the Titans lose, the Browns are in by virtue of outright record.

 checkmark 

The bottom line is: Indianapolis will determine our fate. If they win, we're in. If they lose, we're out.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 11):
And I see how you got there-but it's still nuts!

check out the Browns website. They have the entire thing explained in details.

GO BROWNS!


User currently offlineDCrawley From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 371 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (7 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1525 times:



Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 18):

Seahawks won 26-7 over the Ravens, and they'd be in much better shape had they beat the Panthers and the Browns. Just goes to show, you've got to win on the road

Very true. I was glad to see #37 actually moving the ball down the field today, even had a touchdown. So, this is my Seahawks picture of the week - something we haven't seen nearly enough of this season:


(AP Photo/John Froschauer)



"Weather at our destination is 50 degrees with some broken clouds, but they'll try to have them fixed before we arrive."
User currently offlineUAXDXer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 765 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (7 years 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1523 times:



Quoting Boeing4ever (Reply 19):
Da Bears!

Oh man...even in one of his worse seasons, Lovie Smith can still stick his foot up the Pack's collective @ss!

So where are those who predicted the Bears would be picked apart?

Hope Favre dresses light for his trip to Dallas. Have Simpson stay at home.

Ha-Haaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!

I am sure the Bears will enjoy the playoffs from the couch this year!

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 9):
Lovie is 4-0 at Green Bay. We own the Packers for now hehehehehehehehe.

Wrong! Packers beat your Lovie last game of the season last year!



It takes a bug to hit a windsheild but it takes guts to stick
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3363 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (7 years 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 1515 times:



Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 21):
The bottom line is: Indianapolis will determine our fate. If they win, we're in. If they lose, we're out.

Can't bear to say TENNESSEE determines your fate, can you?  Wink Just kidding.

Cheers,
Cameron


25 Halls120 : I cringe every time I read this painful factoid. WTF were the 49ers thinking when they made that bonehead deal? Well, there's always next year. Time
26 Post contains images HuskyAviation : The 49ers actually thought they would be a contender in 2007, given the way they finished 2006. Ugh. I wish they would, but with all the money they h
27 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Enjoy your trip to Dallas. We're having a pretty Merry Christmas right now. How about you? B4e-Forever New Frontiers
28 Graphic : I'm beginning to think that the broncos need a new offensive line.
29 Surfpunk : Well, the Vikings managed to piss away their destiny by playing Washington like they did the Bears. Problem is, the Redskins are a better team than th
30 ANCFlyer : Got Lucky . . . . they'll be watching any play-offs from the sidelines . . . Packers sucked this weekend though, that's for certain . . .
31 Duff44 : They were thinking they were getting a good OT (Joe Staley) that could sure up the offensive line... I guess not so much. (Pats traded their 2007 fir
32 Post contains links and images Dragon-wings : Got good news. The game will be simulcast on NBC and CBS. http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7604346?MSNHPHMA
33 Post contains images HuskyAviation : The last two teams to set the scoring record didn't win the Super Bowl. Washington scored 541 in 1983, and lost in SB XVIII to the Raiders, and Minne
34 Post contains images Steeler83 : Perhaps... but one thing is for certain, Tom Brady is NOT cursed...
35 Post contains images Boeing4ever : They may be on the couch...but at least they don't have to travel to Dallas. Perhaps though Orton is building confidence in the coaching staff. Maybe
36 UAXDXer : Only if Dallas wins and with the way Dallas is playing it looks like the only place the Packers will be traveling to is Arizona.
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