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Say Goodbye To "The Jake'  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

....and hello to "Progressive Field".

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/plain...sports/1200043885184570.xml&coll=2

I'll have to give the new name a chance. After all, I was appalled when the Indians new home in 1993 was named "Jacobs Field", but the nickname "The Jake" became known around the nation as that home, that has seen the Indians become a successful franchise once again.

I don't know, but "The Prog" just doesn't ring well, does it?  Big grin

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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

"Hey, let's go see a Steamers game at the Prog."

You know, maybe its just me, but that doesn't quite have the same ring to it.  Wink


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1854 times:

The radio this morning reported it was Progressive Insurance Field - The PIF!  biggrin 

User currently offlineFLYB6JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

Larry Dolan, you are a  butthead . Progressive Park??? WTF?

User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

They did the same thing with the ball park here which had been Sec Taylor Stadium since time began. Sec was a sportswriter for the Register back in the day and it is now "Principal Park". Likewise Veteran's has become the "Wells Fargo Arena".

I think it's pathetic trumpeting on one side and whoring to the biggest in town on the other...If I go to the ball park or the arena I'm no more likely to buy anything from these nazis than I was before. The people who buy naming rights are just plain self aggrandizing nazis and the people who sell them suck.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

I liked the 'Jake'

I hated it when The Ballpark in Arlington turned into Ameriquest Field. I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...



Go big or go home
User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1808 times:

*Sigh*
Only a few regular names left
Yankee Stadium
Dodger Stadium
Shea Stadium
Wrigley Field
Fenway Park
Camden Yards

To name a few. Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.


User currently offlineFLYB6JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1804 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.

The Tribe has been in Cleveland since 1901.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1787 times:



Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 3):
Larry Dolan, you are a . Progressive Park??? WTF?



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

While I hate the corporate BS, most of the time the naming rights is added income for the team to use on better players. Of course not all owners do this, there are those that like to squeeze a quarter until the Eagle screams, but for the most part its just another revenue stream to hopefully better the team.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Shea Stadium

This is the last year of Shea. The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field. I think its only a matter of time before we see something like Dean Witter Field at Yankee Stadium too.


User currently offlineFLYB6JETS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1787 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
most of the time the naming rights is added income for the team to use on better players

The revenue generated from naming rights is only about 2-2.5 million a year. That won't buy you much in the way of a great player. Couple that with the cost of what it is to replace every reference to Jacobs Field with the new name and your net gain is almost nil.


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1787 times:

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):Shea Stadium
This is the last year of Shea. The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field. I think its only a matter of time before we see something like Dean Witter Field at Yankee Stadium too.

The Mets new digs are already under construction - is the Yankee's?

Edit: Spelling

[Edited 2008-01-11 07:25:58]

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1766 times:



Quoting FLYB6JETS (Reply 9):
The revenue generated from naming rights is only about 2-2.5 million a year. That won't buy you much in the way of a great player. Couple that with the cost of what it is to replace every reference to Jacobs Field with the new name and your net gain is almost nil.

The Mets are getting 20 million a year for 20 years for their naming rights.

Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 10):
The Mets new digs are already under construction - is the Yankee's?

Both ballparks open in '09


User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1765 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 11):
Both ballparks open in '09

 checkmark  Thanks.


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 1742 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
most part its just another revenue stream to hopefully better the team.

Unfortunately this did not occur with the Rangers...



Go big or go home
User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

Nobody will remember what happened at Enron Field, whether it is Enron Field or something else. Hell, they probably will never remember if it ever WAS Enron Field

But the Polo Grounds and Ebbetts Field and the like....those, although gone, will live on in people's hearts as long as there are hotdogs and beer and a good afternoon game, long after the whores who sell naming rights and the johns who buy them, and the pimps who facilitate the entire process have all breathed their last and been dumped in Potter's Field-which is the only field they deserve.


User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

 Sad That's too bad. Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium, or "The Murph" to Qualcomm Stadium, which is now known as "The Q." Chris Berman of ESPN still sometimes calls it "The Murph" which I think is cool.  thumbsup  Big grin

Dave



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User currently offlineAlias1024 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1641 times:

Occasionally a corporate name seems to work. I remember thinking that "Pacific Bell Park" sounded pretty stupid, but then people started shortening it to "Pac Bell Park". That rolled off the tounge pretty well, and sounded much better than the "3Com Park" the Giants had played in before. Even though the stadium has gone through two more names, I still always think of it as "Pac Bell". Of course Candlestick Park was still a better name than the others.

Progressive Park isn't too bad. I could get used to that at long as the word "insurance " isn't included. At least "Progressive" is a word, and not an acronym or stupid name/number mix like "3Com".



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1629 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...

They now call it Rangers Ballpark at Arlington

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Camden Yards

Technically, it is Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Camden Yards is the nearby train yards and station.

Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 6):
Seems like it's some of the oldest teams that have refused to sell out the naming rights on their fields.

Well, in the case of Shea and Yankee Stadiums, the teams really don't control the name of the park, because they are owned by the CIty of New York. Same with Oriole Park at Camden Yards, which is owned by MD. The others are team owned and owned by teams with very long histories in the ballparks and no real need to pull in incremental revenue at the expense of pissing off a whole lot of fans.

Quoting KROC (Reply 8):
The Mets new yard next year will be Citi Field.

In the grand scheme of naming rights, that is actually a pretty good one, seeing how often the colloquial "The City" is used for New York. It works in a way similar to the way Great Western Forum worked.

Quoting Dougloid (Reply 14):
Nobody will remember what happened at Enron Field, whether it is Enron Field or something else.

They probably wont remember that it was renamed Minute Maid Park either  Wink

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 15):
Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium

Funny thing about the Murph is that most people, even in San Diego, probably have no clue who Jack Murphy was.



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

You know what a "Jake" is in Ireland?






Jan


User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets87 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1555 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Technically, it is Oriole Park at Camden Yards. Camden Yards is the nearby train yards and station.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Well, in the case of Shea and Yankee Stadiums, the teams really don't control the name of the park, because they are owned by the CIty of New York. Same with Oriole Park at Camden Yards, which is owned by MD. The others are team owned and owned by teams with very long histories in the ballparks and no real need to pull in incremental revenue at the expense of pissing off a whole lot of fans.

Thanks. I did not know that. You know if the new Yankee Stadium will be owned by the city as well or will George or someone else own that one?

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 15):
That's too bad. Same thing happened out here when they changed the name of our stadium from Jack Murphy Stadium, or "The Murph" to Qualcomm Stadium, which is now known as "The Q." Chris Berman of ESPN still sometimes calls it "The Murph" which I think is cool.

I remember the same thing in Cincinnati with the previous stadium. The name was changed from "Riverfront Stadium" to "Cinergy Field" in the last few years, but to me and a lot of people in Cincinnati, it was (and still is in some ways) "Riverfront".


User currently offlineDougloid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1546 times:



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 18):
You know what a "Jake" is in Ireland?

Yes...that thought had occurred to me....it is yet another of a series of inartfully named things where the folks doing the naming didn't have much of a clue.

My favorite was the Chevy Nova-which in Spanish means "It doesn't go". Another one is the Dodge Raider a/k/a Mitsubishi Montero, which i am told is sold as the Mitsubishi Pajero in Latin America...pajero being another way of saying 'wanker' in some circles.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26499 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1532 times:



Quoting FlyDeltaJets87 (Reply 19):
You know if the new Yankee Stadium will be owned by the city as well or will George or someone else own that one?

The City.



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User currently offlineOuboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4600 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1532 times:

Though not a major league ballpark, the one built in OKC in the last 10 years started out with the name Bricktown Ballpark - being that it was in Bricktown (entertainment district of downtown OKC). When SBC, now AT&T, bought the rights to name it...it was just gonna be the Southwestern Bell Park. The public bitched to high heaven and finally SBC agreed to put Bricktown back in it, as people started calling it "The Brick." Today the name stands with AT&T Bricktown Ballpark being the offical title. So the public screaming out can get things changed or modified, but I fear it comes down to how responsible the corporate sponsor is in the community and the power of the people.

We did lose the name Myriad Convention Center to now the Cox Business Services Convention Center. >_> At least that place will get replaced with the new covenction center once I-40's relocation is finished.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1488 times:



Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I hate that corporate BS... The almighty $....

I agree! These corporate logos are getting out of hand, I thought that Texas' ballpark was trying to get back into the trend of having their own identities. Glad the older ballparks have not joined the insanity!

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 5):
I think they have since changed it back to The Ballpark...

Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, IIRC.



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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1450 times:

I wonder given the recent financial problems with CitiCorp will the New York Mets' new ballpark get a new corporate sponsor? Remember, the New England Patriots' home field (Gillette Field) was going to be named CMGI Field until CMGI went out of business, forcing the Patriots to get a new sponsor.

User currently offlineLASOctoberB6 From Japan, joined Nov 2006, 2380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (6 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1431 times:

At first, I thought this thread was about the "Jake Brake" (Jacobs Brake).....


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