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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Ok, so a fun discussion for once.

Ground rule: No steroid talk

Here's the subject. Sports players who made a big time impact for a season or three and then seemed to disappear off the face of the earth. We can talk about the memories we have as well as where they are now.

First up: Baseball left fielder Benny Agbayani.

The Affable Hawai'ian came up to the Mets rather late in life at 28. He hit a ton, getting an extra base hit on about a third of his hits, and had a very respectable .362 career OBP. He sort of disappeared off the map and into Japanese baseball. What happened Mutt fans? KROC?


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User currently offlineBok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1572 times:



Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
He sort of disappeared off the map and into Japanese baseball. What happened Mutt fans? KROC?

Interestingly enough he is playing for Bobby Valentine on the Chiba Lotte Marines in Nippon Professional Baseball's Pacific League. He was MVP in 2005.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1571 times:



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 1):

Interestingly enough he is playing for Bobby Valentine on the Chiba Lotte Marines in Nippon Professional Baseball's Pacific League.

Makes sense, seeing that he was one of Bobby's favorites.

Quoting Bok269 (Reply 1):
He was MVP in 2005.

That shows his talent level. Anyone know why he never picked up with another MLB team?



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1548 times:



Quoting N1120A (Thread starter):
The Affable Hawai'ian came up to the Mets rather late in life at 28. He hit a ton, getting an extra base hit on about a third of his hits, and had a very respectable .362 career OBP. He sort of disappeared off the map and into Japanese baseball. What happened Mutt fans? KROC?

With the Mets Agbayani cooled off as quickly as he heated up. He was a player and fan favorite back when I was still stationed in Cali around 1999-2001. He came out of nowhere and had a big stick and seemed to get some clutch hits as well. However his production tailed off pretty quickly as well. That's when he ended up in the Japanese League. Before that though after being let go by the Mets he had unsuccessful stints in Colorado and Boston. Not being able to succeed at Coors Canaveral might explain why he is in the Japanese League.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1533 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 3):
Not being able to succeed at Coors Canaveral might explain why he is in the Japanese League.

I think he was playing with the Rox post-humidor.



Next Player:

Todd Hollandsworth - Won the Rookie of the Year for the Dodgers in 1996 after drawing all sorts of comparisons to Kirk Gibson. Seemed the only similarity to Gibson was how injury prone he was. What has he been up to and has he ever done anything compared to that season?



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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1529 times:

Todd Hollandsworth was just another over-hyped Los Angeles Dodgers Rookie of the Year. Last I heard he last played for the Reds and Indians in 2006. Guy had an average career stat wise, judging from all the teams he played for, but had to make a nice living..

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1528 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
I think he was playing with the Rox post-humidor.

He was there in 2002. That is pre-humidor if I remember correctly.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 4):
Todd Hollandsworth - Won the Rookie of the Year for the Dodgers in 1996 after drawing all sorts of comparisons to Kirk Gibson. Seemed the only similarity to Gibson was how injury prone he was. What has he been up to and has he ever done anything compared to that season?

He last played in '06 for the Reds. I think he is retired now though.

His next best season after his rookie year was 2000 according to baseball reference.com He had 19 HR's between L.A. and Colorado, but a very unimpressive 40-something RBI's and a .265 or so BA. His '02 was decent as well with Col/Tex. 16/67/.284 He did his 3 Bombs in one game...I think for Atlanta. I could be thinking about a different player though.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1528 times:



Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
but had to make a nice living..

According to Baseball Reference, he earned just under 14 million in 12 seasons. His highest seasons were 2.75 million.

Quoting AirCop (Reply 5):
Todd Hollandsworth was just another over-hyped Los Angeles Dodgers Rookie of the Year.

Well, the 4 who preceded him in that line of 5 all had pretty damn good careers, and one is headed to the Hall of Fame.


Next up: Football Running Back Christian Okoye. They called him the Nigerian Nightmare when he led the NFL in rushing with the Kansas City Chiefs. He had 2-3 good years and disappeared. What happened there?



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1522 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 6):

He was there in 2002. That is pre-humidor if I remember correctly.

2002 was the humidor year

Quoting KROC (Reply 6):
but a very unimpressive 40-something RBI's

Remember that Hollandsworth spent much of his time, particularly with the Dodgers, as a lead off hitter.

Quoting KROC (Reply 6):
He did his 3 Bombs in one game...I think for Atlanta. I could be thinking about a different player though.

He did it for Colorado in 2001.



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User currently offlineHuskyAviation From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1152 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1519 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 7):
They called him the Nigerian Nightmare when he led the NFL in rushing with the Kansas City Chiefs. He had 2-3 good years and disappeared. What happened there?

Not exactly sure, but he did resurface last year with in that awful Mark Burnett pirate reality show. He was like the second guy thrown off the ship.

I believe he only rushed for 2 1,000 yard seasons (1,480 in 1989 and barely over a thousand in 1991). IIRC, he got hurt in 1990 or 1991 and then KC developed Barry Word and Harvey Williams, and eventually phased Okoye out.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1517 times:



Quoting HuskyAviation (Reply 9):


I believe he only rushed for 2 1,000 yard seasons (1,480 in 1989 and barely over a thousand in 1991). IIRC, he got hurt in 1990 or 1991 and then KC developed Barry Word and Harvey Williams, and eventually phased Okoye out.

Apparently, he is coaching football at Montclair High School in California. I hear he may well have had Earl Campbell syndrome, where he was just overused by the Chiefs, which led to his injuries. He showed promise catching passes in his rookie year, so perhaps he could have been better utilized.


Next up: Todd Greene, Catcher. He came up with the Angels after hitting 40 home runs in 1 minor league season. Where did he disappear too and why?



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User currently offlineHickoryShampoo From Djibouti, joined Dec 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1509 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Next up: Todd Greene, Catcher.

"The San Diego Padres agreed to minor league contracts with left-hander Shawn Estes and catcher Todd Greene on Saturday."

"Greene played in 61 games for the Giants last season, making 37 starts at catcher, and hit .289."

Source: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2730783



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1503 times:



Quoting HickoryShampoo (Reply 11):
"The San Diego Padres agreed to minor league contracts with left-hander Shawn Estes and catcher Todd Greene on Saturday."

"Greene played in 61 games for the Giants last season, making 37 starts at catcher, and hit .289."

Show-off.


 Wink


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1499 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 12):
Quoting HickoryShampoo (Reply 11):
"The San Diego Padres agreed to minor league contracts with left-hander Shawn Estes and catcher Todd Greene on Saturday."

"Greene played in 61 games for the Giants last season, making 37 starts at catcher, and hit .289."

Show-off.

Yeah. That's just plain cheating  Wink. .289 isn't bad at a position that only has about 5 good hitters at any given time, and there is no doubt that he can hit with power. Wonder why Greene can't latch on?



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User currently offlineHickoryShampoo From Djibouti, joined Dec 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1495 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 12):



Quoting N1120A (Reply 13):

Well, Hells bells...it you wanted me to guess, I'd have said "selling Kias and playing in a beer league in East Jesus, Michigan."



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

Next Up: Bob Hamelin. Big guy who fit every European's stereotype of a baseball player that won the AL ROTY in 1994 after smashing 24 dongs and 25 doubles in only 104 games. Where did he go?


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1482 times:

Bob had some leg and eye problems which led to an early retirement. Last played with at the time the hapless Detroit Tigers. I think he had something like 65 career home runs, and struck out alot.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1479 times:



Quoting AirCop (Reply 16):
and struck out alot.

Actually, if you look at his stats, he didn't strike out that much for a power hitter, and had high OBPs from a lot of walking.



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User currently offlineHickoryShampoo From Djibouti, joined Dec 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1480 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
smashing 24 dongs

Yeesh....don't think I'd want him on my team, either.  scared 



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1471 times:



Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
smashing 24 dongs and 25 doubles

That sounds like Saturday Night for me.

Signed, FXramper


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1471 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 19):

http://www.imaginismstudios.com/journalism/images/knockout.jpg



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User currently offlineHickoryShampoo From Djibouti, joined Dec 2007, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1465 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 19):




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User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1461 times:



Quoting KROC (Reply 19):
That sounds like Saturday Night for me.

Signed, FXramper

You guys gotta ease up on the man.....he hasn't been the same since I took him behind the woodshed in our fantasy Super Bowl a few weeks ago  wink 

Tom at MSY



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1429 times:



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 22):
You guys gotta ease up on the man.....he hasn't been the same since I took him behind the woodshed in our fantasy Super Bowl a few weeks ago

Exactly. I gotta beat him while he is down! I'm playing him this week in fantasy basketball (after I took your child sire's behind the woodshed) and baseball is right around the corner. Maybe this year he won't finish in triple digits behind 1st place.  Wink


User currently offlineAA61Hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1419 times:



Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 22):
You guys gotta ease up on the man.....he hasn't been the same since I took him behind the woodshed in our fantasy Super Bowl a few weeks ago

That was a fluke, the 3rd place game I had 221 points-Brady didn't show up on the previous week causing me to lose.

 Sad Sorry I'm still bitter about not repeating as FFball champ...



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25 Post contains images KROC : Gee, thats tough bro. Hope you can get over it.
26 Seb146 : I have some "What ever happened to..." The Buffalo Sabres goalie who got his neck run over by a skate, Vince Carter who hit a home run ending the Worl
27 KROC : Actually that was Joe Carter and he retired from baseball. Mutumbo who speaks like 5 or 7 different languages is very active in his home country with
28 Post contains images N1120A : Joe Carter (not Vince Carter, formerly Air Canada) hit that home run. He had 4 more rather productive seasons in Toronto before finishing up with an
29 N1120A : Actually, the last count was up to 9. French, English, Portuguese, Spanish and 5 African languages.
30 Mir : Even post-humidor Coors is a great place to be an offensive player. The homeruns may be down, but the outfield is still so damn big that a lot more h
31 N1120A : The funny thing about that is that the big outfield is how the negated some of the dry/thin air issues before. I actually think the current set up ma
32 ORFflyer : Whatever happened to Lenny Dykstra? Last I heard he had a "chain" of high end car washes in CA somewhere.
33 N1120A : Nails has come back into the news lately as someone pointed to as a potential steroid user. Other than that, he owns a bunch of small businesses and
34 Seb146 : Well, at least I got the last name right! LOL I remember seeing it on the news. I could not believe he survived! Good to hear he is still active. I d
35 N1120A : Mutombo has been doing that stuff for years. The guy understands that, despite being as rich as he is, he needs to give back. Further, he is not your
36 KROC : He is also starting a magazine aimed directly at professional athelets teaching them how to better manage their millions.
37 ORFflyer : On the streets yet? I'd like to look at an issue or two....
38 KROC : I don't think its going to be a newstand thing. Its supposed to be paid for by advertising and such and it would be distributed to the atheletes free
39 Tom in NO : Not a video for the faint of heart..... Tom at MSY
40 N1120A : No. The commentary made by the people doing TV for the game summed it up quite well. The trainer for the Sabres saved Malarchuk's life, no question.
41 KROC : I've only heard about this, never seen it. I guess I'm going to have to check out youtube and see if its on there.
42 N1120A : Its on there. I didn't post it because it is really gruesome and may well have freaked some people out. Keep a look out for the footage done from the
43 HuskyAviation : I remember seeing this on highlights after it happened, but haven't seen it since. It honestly makes my stomach turn. Has that ever happened before o
44 N1120A : Yes and, sadly, the outcome wasn't as positive. A Swedish player named Bengt Akerblom died in 1995 from a similar injury.
45 Srbmod : Keeping it in the realm of hockey, 1996 Vezina Trophy winner, Jim Carey. His career sank faster than a saucer pass.
46 N1120A : Yeah, he was a beast and pretty much got supplanted by the still very effective Olaf Kolzig. The crazy thing is that Carey only played 5 seasons in t
47 Post contains images FXramper : Someone actually has a life beyond this website and fantasy sports and missed a few days on roster updates. I'm in it to win it. Where were you again
48 Post contains images KROC : Loseman was a backup. Besides, I was closer in football than you were in baseball!!! You were so far out of first last year you;re gonna start 20 game
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