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Removed Cmos Battery - Now PC Acting Strangly  
User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

Hey

I've been faced with the classic 'BOOT DISC FAILURE..' etc crap and I thought taking the CMOS Battery out for a hour might help. (Desperate Stage Big grin ) And somehow, it worked. However, I'm having loads of strange problems. Such as MSN Complaining about my clock, windows updates not working etc. I've set the clock correctly and when I tell it to connect with the online server to update it comes back with an error.

Any ideas? I'm running Vista..

Thanks In Advance.

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User currently offlineGo3Team From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3267 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

You probably lost some settings in the BIOS. You'd probably have to go thru it and check the settings.


Yay Pudding!
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21521 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Try rebooting. Just setting the clock graphically might not be enough - some internal services might still run on the "old" (nonsensical) time, so rebooting might re-synchronize them.

User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1317 times:



Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
You probably lost some settings in the BIOS. You'd probably have to go thru it and check the settings.

That sounds like that might do the trick; I'll try that later.

Cheers.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 2):
Try rebooting. Just setting the clock graphically might not be enough - some internal services might still run on the "old" (nonsensical) time, so rebooting might re-synchronize them.

Computer has been rebooted and shut down for a long period of time.


User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1303 times:



Quoting Jamesbaldwyn (Thread starter):
I've been faced with the classic 'BOOT DISC FAILURE..' etc crap and I thought taking the CMOS Battery out for a hour might help.

The procedure then is to run the Setup manually (press DEL or F2, typically) at startup and go to "auto detect hard disk" or select "auto detection". No valid information there --> check cables and that drive makes some noise, if cables ok -> visit a facility that offers hard drives for sale.


User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 1286 times:



Quoting AverageUser (Reply 4):
The procedure then is to run the Setup manually (press DEL or F2, typically) at startup and go to "auto detect hard disk" or select "auto detection". No valid information there --> check cables and that drive makes some noise, if cables ok -> visit a facility that offers hard drives for sale.

All 3 of my hard drives were identified in the BIOS. That being 2 Sata & 1 IDE. Somehow its all working, I think it may be my PSU so I'm replacing that.

I realised why I was having this problem with the clock.. I'm living in the past Big grin I set 2007 not 2008

Thanks everyone for your help.


User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1268 times:



Quoting Jamesbaldwyn (Reply 5):
Somehow its all working, I think it may be my PSU so I'm replacing that.

I hope so too, having said that, I've seen quite a number of sporadic HD quirks that have fast developed into real HD failures so I suggest you make point of preparing a copy of anything you need to keep.


User currently offlineJamesbaldwyn From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1255 times:



Quoting AverageUser (Reply 6):
I hope so too, having said that, I've seen quite a number of sporadic HD quirks that have fast developed into real HD failures so I suggest you make point of preparing a copy of anything you need to keep.

I have 3 in my pc like I said earlier :

1 IDE = XP
Sata 1 = Vista
Sata 2 = Flight Sim & Backup

At the time, I was mixing and matching with no luck. So I don't think its the hardy drives.


User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1244 times:



Quoting Jamesbaldwyn (Reply 7):
have 3 in my pc like I said earlier

If you have a major fault in the primary HD, the alternative boot device will be used, as defined in BIOS setup boot order. If you do not have a proper boot sector on the alternative HD, a fault in the primary HD will land you in a error message as you saw. A HD controller error is a possibility which I seldom see however.


User currently offlineFlipdewaf From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 1578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1221 times:
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Same thing happens if you remover the CMOS from my motherboard, There are a set of jumpers (not sure you call them that) that mean you can reset the BIOS to the default where it sets everything up automatically. On mine its a little plastic sleeve you remove from connecting two pins and then connect another 2pins to reset, then move back again.

Fred


User currently offlineFfis34 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1206 times:

When you take that battery out the computers clock resets, and so programs wont run if the date of the computer is say 1989 and the program was made in 2000, If you sync your clock you will be good to go, you also might have to re activate windows again and do the updates. Maybe try running your Windows disk in repair mode that should help out a lot if their are some corrupt files and should help you against the disk failure screen again. It has happened to me. Just re sync the clock

Brad


hope this helps



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User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1197 times:



Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 10):
Maybe try running your Windows disk in repair mode

Nothing personal, but everyone likes doing unnecessary things a lot when their HDs begin acting up. Sometimes the situation seems to improve (data gets rewritten, perhaps on a different physical sector on the HD, the drive may hide the actual operation, transparently), but in the end of the day a failing hard drive will be a failed hard drive.


User currently offlineFfis34 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1175 times:



Quoting AverageUser (Reply 11):
Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 10):
Maybe try running your Windows disk in repair mode

Nothing personal, but everyone likes doing unnecessary things a lot when their HDs begin acting up. Sometimes the situation seems to improve (data gets rewritten, perhaps on a different physical sector on the HD, the drive may hide the actual operation, transparently), but in the end of the day a failing hard drive will be a failed hard drive.

I understand, but the "boot disk failure" could range from a corrupt file to what you said a future hard drive failure. But as I have just recently in the past 2 years ventured into computer repair, and I am always up for learning new stuff. But Having the same problem about 6 months back I did exactly as I described above and the problem was resolved, and after troublshooting the problem with my uncle it turned out to be a .sys file, So we ran the xp disc in xp repair mode probelm solved. But at the same time you could be very right about signs of a hard drive failure.



Chris, since we are in jail I need to say something to you. Dont drop the soap
User currently offlineAverageUser From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (6 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1166 times:



Quoting Ffis34 (Reply 12):
But at the same time you could be very right about signs of a hard drive failure.

Yes, I could be. The HD has it's build-in on-line self-diagnostics: S.M.A.R.T., the possible notifications of which you can enable at bootup from BIOS setup. I've saved many client's data by that "early warning system", when they've phoned me about a S.M.A.R.T. message they've got. The diagnostics message is enabled by default mostly on laptops only, I've noticed.
The smartmontools utility pack is available free at http://sourceforge.net/project/downl...ls-5.37-1.win32-setup.exe&83983089
The very pack is very informative about the hidden life of your hard drive, and very educational as well.
Happy computing  Smile


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