Queso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 1508 times:
Quoting Diamond (Thread starter): If I was asked for one word to describe Thompson and/or his campaign, it would be: lethargic.
Out of all the candidates running, I thought Thompson would make the best President. I was also realistic in thinking he had a slim chance of winning. Then, seeing how he handled his campaign, it was as if he said to his wife "Wife, I'll run for a few months just to shut up these people who keep pestering me about running."
I agree with you, Diamond. It really was lethargic and I was very disappointed.
Now we're left without a Reagan Conservative candidate. I have no idea who I'll vote for. McCain is too old and he and Giuliani are Democrats in sheeps clothing, I'd rather not vote for Romney and Ron Paul has no chance of winning (although I don't like him either). The crack Huckabee made about Pakistan being #2 at sending illegals to the US really made me raise an eyebrow becasue there's no way he can believe that is true, but he's probably the one that most closely fits what I am looking for in a President right now.
All of the Democrat candidates suck. I'd come closest to voting for Biden but he's still WAY off in left field.
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 66 Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 1492 times:
Quoting Queso (Reply 6): McCain is too old and he and Giuliani are Democrats in sheeps clothing
How do you figure that a George-Bush-pro-war candidate (McCain) is a Democrat in sheep's clothing? I don't get it.
As for Guiliani, yeah he's all over the page in terms of policy. But he's not conservative enough for most Republicans and not progressive enough for most Democrats. I think he'll drop out unless he wins Florida by a landslide ... and the odds makers are saying McCain is going to take FL.
Quoting Queso (Reply 6): All of the Democrat candidates suck
Um, no. One of them admits to inhaling, but none of them suck.
Queso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1459 times:
Quoting Diamond (Reply 7): How do you figure that a George-Bush-pro-war candidate (McCain) is a Democrat in sheep's clothing? I don't get it.
He frequently crosses the aisle and compromises conservative principles solely to come to an agreement, no matter how bad the left's position on issues may be. He was the leader of the "Gang Of 14" as a good example.
Queso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1459 times:
Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 9): I am sure one of them will come out pro gun and get your vote Queso!
Oh, there are several of them that are pro-gun but believe it or not, I am not a single-issue voter. Yeah, that's one of the first issues I look at but it's not the only one.
Delta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2559 posts, RR: 14 Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1406 times:
Fred Thompson was my first choice and I was sad to see him drop out. However I can understand his reasoning. I agree with Queso, we are left without a Ronald Reagan Conservative. IMO McCain is too old, Mike Huckleberry Finn is too extremem with his religion. Rudy Giuliani is a little liberal on some issues but it does not bother me unless he gets too anti-gun. I dont know enough about Ron Paul to comment.
I voted early today for the Republican Primary in Florida. I voted Mitt Romney because his beliefs were very similiar to mine.
GREATANSETT From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 506 posts, RR: 4 Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1406 times:
I believe that Paul Speaks his mind and i mostly agree with what he says. He wants limited government, which is evident considering he wants to abolish the department of homeland defence. When it comes to terrorism, he uses history as well as apathy to try to comprehend their actions. He believes, as do i, that US foreign policy over the years contributed towards the anger directed at the US resulting in Blowback, hence 911, Iranian revolution with the taking of the US troops.
(Note: The CIA agrees with him on these points)
He also subscibes to Austrian Social Economics. He believes that the US can no longer afford to run its empire and wishes to cut spending as well as return to the gold standard instead of printing money.
In terms of Israel, he believes that the US sould not send aid to Israel at all. Yet at the same time he also wants to stop sending aid to their arab neighbours which receive 3x the amount Israel receives.
I dont agree with his stance on fire arms.
I suggest you youtube many of his responses at GOP debates
Queso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
Quoting GREATANSETT (Reply 18): I believe that Paul Speaks his mind and i mostly agree with what he says.
Thanks for your reply. I'm not going to argue with you because I asked your opinion and you gave it to me, and I appreciate that. I know what you say of his positions is true, but much of what you wrote about why you like him is why I don't like his viewpoints and why I don't think I could support him.
Diamond From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3279 posts, RR: 66 Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1377 times:
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11): The Iraq war is not the only issue, Diamond.
I am aware of that. Those of you who are very conservative apparently think that McCain isn't far enough to the right to represent you. I'm just saying that from the perspective of someone on the left - he is a very conservative guy. This idea that he's a Democrat-in-disguise is laughable, in that he doesn't really represent any of the moral and social values that are important to us.
Quoting Cfalk (Reply 11): Which explains Monica Lewinsky, doesn't it?
Hey now. Let's not join in Obama's most recent ploy - to pretend that he is confused about which Clinton is running against him.
Confuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3633 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 4 hours ago) and read 1364 times:
Coming from Hollywood, Thompson didn't even get support from the Hollywood Republican elite. A-list Republicans such as Melissa Gilbert, Rip Torn and Col. Braddock endorsed his opponents.
Hollywood Republicans lining up for McCain, Giuliani
By Jeffrey Ressner, Politico.com
Republicans have never had an easy time in Hollywood.
But throughout the presidential primaries, John McCain and Rudy Giuliani have been quietly working to garner what little support there is in showbiz for conservative politicians.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 3 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
Quoting GREATANSETT (Reply 18): He believes, as do i, that US foreign policy over the years contributed towards the anger directed at the US resulting in Blowback, hence 911, Iranian revolution with the taking of the US troops.
Which shows his ignorance of history. The U.S. has been at war with Islamic fundamentalism and Jihadism for 200 years. In fact, it seems like America's very first war after the Revolution (against the Barbary Pirates - i.e. the Islamic states in north Africa in 1801) is still going on...
Quote: (Thomas) Jefferson related a conversation he had in Paris with Ambassador Abdrahaman of Tripoli who told him that all Christians are sinners in the context of the Qur'an and that it was a Muslim's "right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to enslave as many as they could take as prisoners." Islam gave great incentive to fighting infidels, Abdrahaman explained, because the Qur'an promised that making war against infidels ensured a Muslim paradise after death. Richard O'Brien, the imprisoned captain of the Philadelphia merchantman Dauphin and later the U.S. consul to Algiers, related similar conversations with ‘Ali Hasan, the ruler of Algiers.
Thomas Jefferson, "‘The American Commissioners' Report to John Jay," in Paul L. Ford, ed., The Works of Thomas Jefferson, vol. 9 (New York and London: G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1904-5), p. 358; quoted in Frank Lambert, The Barbary Wars: American Independence in the Atlantic World (New York: Hill and Wang, 2005), pp. 106-9.
The role that jihadi ideology played in the Barbary wars is documented with explicit references to jihad and holy war in the treaties that U.S. officials entered into with Muslim rulers. Tunis and Algiers, as the western outposts of the Ottoman Empire, even described themselves to American envoys as the "frontier posts of jihad against European Christianity."
"The Truce with Tunis," Naval Documents Related to the United States Wars with the Barbary Powers, vol. 1 (Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1939), pp. 158-9; quoted in Lambert, The Barbary Wars, p. 117.
That conflict continued off and on (like now) throughout the 19th century, until the European powers basically took over North Africa. None of this is new, guys.
25 Diamond: He was never a Hollywood insider, nor did he 'come' from Hollywood. He is a fat-cat, laid-back old southern boy from Tennessee and occasionally flew
26 Falcon84: Who? Enlighten me, man. Well, if you feel that way, then I'm glad I'm supporting one of them. And the only Republican I can tolerate is McCain. You h
28 AirCop: What do you describe as a Reagan conservative? Your profile states your age is 21-25, and Reagan been out of office for nearly 20 years. So please he
29 Queso: Queso isn't running, and this thread isn't about Queso. You're talking about... ... and yes, that's one of the big problems I have with McCain. But a
30 Delta767300ER: Oh boy, Here we go. I knew this would come up. A candidate favoring tax cuts, smaller government, Expanding the American Economy, Doesent press his r
31 GuitrThree: Well, not like I was surprised, but my guy is out... He'd make a GREAT VP candidate, especially for Romney and Giuliani, who are from the NE, as Fred'
32 GREATANSETT: I believe it is ignorant to think that ones actions don't have consequences which is basically what the other GOP candidates are saying. It is nieve
33 Cfalk: So, it's a problem of your perspective. Do you have a quote of any GOP candidates saying that? No. You exaggerate. Denying that the U.S. is the cause
34 AirCop: Your research must have been poor, largest tax hikes up to that point in history occurred on Reagan's watch, the size of the federal government grew,
35 Diamond: No, it isn't. In fact, it's not a "problem" at all.
36 AirCop: From another angle; New York Times today; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/21/op...800&en=a3be598123508bda&ei=5087%0A
37 Mir: Well, I can't say I'm sad to see him exit. The guy did everything he could to make himself look like a bitter, ornery, angry old man. And he was a nut
38 Falcon84: Disagree. Fred has been a non-factor in this race, and his dropping out won't help Mittens Romulus at all, imho. This race, now, is John McCain's to
40 RJdxer: Almost democratic you might say. Why? Dick Cheney has been steadfast since being chosen for VP that he would never run for the Presidency. Why does M
41 EvilForce: Poor Drug Limbaugh and his Dittoheads are absolutely livid over SC. After all the blathering the moron spewed on the airwaves about how the "Republica
42 RJdxer: Have either of them been nominated or elected? According to CNN's delegate score card, Romney is in first followed by McCain and Huckabee. http://www
44 EvilForce: He could always run as a 3rd party candidate.
45 Queso: Limbaugh never endorsed Thompson, or anyone else for that matter.
46 Elite: The candidates have pretty much been set, with a few exceptions (McCain comeback, Huckabee suddenly jumping out first). I think McCain will win in the
47 LH423: I don't buy that. I think people give the far right too much credit. I mean, are they suddenly going to vote Dem because McCain won't bow to their ev
48 EvilForce: Of course he hasn't. He only tells everyone what's wrong with the guys he doesn't like. It's clear to anyone that listens to him exactly who he wants
49 RJdxer: They don't have to vote democratic, all they have to do is sit on their hands. He has pointed out that there is not a true conservative running this
50 Queso: Nice rant, but your entire post is off-topic.
51 FriendlySkies: Ron Paul doesn't believe in evolution, and wants to bring the US back to 1890...even Hillary is better than that.
52 LH423: Right, and they'll still end up with a Democrat. Which, frankly, I'd think would be the LAST thing the far right wants. You'd think they'd at least t
53 RJdxer: Nope, as they have proved in the past, they would rather accept defeat on moral grounds, then vote for someone who does not represent their interests
54 EvilForce: LMAO! Of course there are no "true" conservatives running. That would mean Rush would have to back them openly and accept any blame for their failure
55 EvilForce: Excellent! Sitting this one out is probably a good idea. Is this the "cutting off one's nose to spite thy face" kinda things?
56 RJdxer: And yet that won't save him from declaring a fiscal emergency or having his health care proposal shot down. Goes to show what approval ratings are wo
57 STT757: He left the race after Iowa, I hope either Hilary or Obama pick him as their running mate. Are you kidding, Giulianni is Bill and Sean's buddy. They
58 RJdxer: Yes it is but being principled is not illegal.
59 EvilForce: So what part of any of that has to do with taxes? Federal spending? Clinton or Bush as presidents? As that article I linked earlier, productivity has
60 Delta767300ER: No problem man, Thanks for the info. I did some more research and it appears you are right. -Delta767300ER
61 RJdxer: Higher taxes=less investment=less growth=less productivity. One those two passed the largest tax hike in the history of the nation, the other cut tax
62 AirCop: HIgher taxes (user fees as Republicans call them) = more money for infrastructure rehab=more employment=more money into the economy as a result of co
63 RJdxer: If that were true the great depression would have ended by 1936. Instead it took a world war to break it.
64 EvilForce: But that goes against the theory of Limbaughnomics. After all we all know government is like fire, a dangerous servant and a fearsome master. Therefo
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