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Australia Claims Canada As Dangerous  
User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2049 times:

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._caution_080115/20080125?hub=World


Complete Jack-assery


It's a shame. I used to respect Australia...

Liam spin 

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User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2045 times:



Quoting AF340 (Thread starter):
Complete Jack-assery


It's a shame. I used to respect Australia...

Liam spin

Do not take that "personal"....they just use the "cya-method" (cover your a**) on this official website.


User currently offlineNeilYYZ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2040 times:



Quoting AF340 (Thread starter):
It's a shame. I used to respect Australia...

I still do, hot women with Australian accents, how can you go wrong.

I'm sure it's just some government bureaucracy deal, I really don't think many Australians would take this advice to heart. Anyhow, their government can say whatever they want, I'll still love their women.


User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2040 times:



Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 1):
Do not take that "personal"....they just use the "cya-method" (cover your a**) on this official website.

See that's the thing, I never had heard of the aussie's as being like that. It's a shame.



Liam spin 


User currently offlineTrekster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

I dont see whats wrong.

Canada is a country that could be subject to terrorism, just like any western country.
It winters can be deadly and bad.

So what if there warning Aussies about it, there warned about the UK/us and all other places, just like most other Governments would warn about travel to places around the world.

Nowt wrong with it at all


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Go to the website www.smarttraveller.gov.au and you will see that a lot of countries have this 'exercise caution' status. If you look at the warning for Canada you will see that it relates to natural disasters because most Australians have no idea what it's like to drive in snow etc. Australia's cities don't get snow with the exception of Canberra on rare occasions. The stuff about terrorism and crime is just common sense stuff.

The category Canada is in is the second lowest. Obviously it was a slow news day and your media had nothing better to do the rag on Australia  Yeah sure


User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quoting AF340 (Thread starter):
Complete Jack-assery
It's a shame. I used to respect Australia...

Puh-leeez!  Smile

Take a look at the website in question. Can be found here (complete list of countries here).

Almost ALL countries are on the same security level (which is the 2nd-lowest of 5) as Canada (including USA, UK, Germany and France), mostly because of the omni-present terrorist threat. For Canada, this seems to be the only reason for the warnings. In Germany, we have at least violent mass protests and racist youth groups, to add some spice (yee-hah!).

Only mega-peaceful countries like Finland (where people would follow your car over miles, to return your purse full of $$$ which you accidentally lost at the supermarket) have the lowest security rating.

Okay, the site is made up in a somewhat bureaucratic language. So some Canadian journo, lacking something good to write about, made a "story" out of that.

No need to declare war on Australia.  Wink Actually, I am quite sure you will find the same kind of information on many foreign affairs websites of befriended countries. No big deal.

Lean back, have a glass of fine Australian Syrah and watch the Simpsons episode "Bart vs. Australia", and things will soon brighten up again...  Wink


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quote:
Overall, Canada is listed in the second safest category (out of five categories) on the website -- the 'Exercise caution' section. Out of the G8 nations, the U.S., U.K, France, Germany and Italy also are listed in the 'Exercise caution' category.

Meh.

Category 1 is probably reserved for lolipops, kisses from kindly grandmothers and Japan.

Looks like any real developed nation is at least category 2.


User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quoting AF340 (Reply 3):
See that's the thing, I never had heard of the aussie's as being like that. It's a shame.

These are not the aussie people, this is the official government.

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 5):
because most Australians have no idea what it's like to drive in snow

From my own experience I can tell you Irish people neither  Wink  Smile


User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

Canada dangerous?

Only if you're a baby harp seal.



Ain't I a stinker?
User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2001 times:



Quoting MDorBust (Reply 7):
Category 1 is probably reserved for lolipops, kisses from kindly grandmothers and Japan.

Wow, Japan is cat. 1, indeed. Somebody should tell the Aussies about Hitoshimoka... Big grin


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1982 times:



Quoting ZakHH (Reply 10):
Wow, Japan is cat. 1, indeed. Somebody should tell the Aussies about Hitoshimoka...

There's already a warning in there...

Quote:
Wildlife Watching

Australians are advised to maintain a safe and legal distance when observing wildlife, including marine animals and birds. You should only use reputable and professional guides or tour operators and closely follow park regulations and wardens' advice.



User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1982 times:

Not much different on the Canadian site for visiting 'down under'.
http://www.voyage.gc.ca/dest/report-en.asp?country=17000

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1949 times:
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It's quite gratifying to be called "dangerous" by a country that is surrounded by shark-infested waters, has 8 of the world's ten deadliest snakes, several deadly spiders, cassowaries and kangaroos that can knock you silly, and crocodiles that will swallow you whole. I'm sure I've missed a few hazards. Oh yeah I forgot ... Aussie rules football.

Seriously, Australia is one of my favourite places on earth. Oh well, I'm off to Whistler this weekend -- where half the population is from Oz and seems not to be too concerned about winter or terrorists.

g'day.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Quoting Arrow (Reply 13):
I'm off to Whistler this weekend -- where half the population is from Oz

I know it is a famous tourist region, but is that the "famous" region for the newly weds and nearly deads from down under and elsewhere ?

[Edited 2008-01-25 16:18:16]

User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1919 times:
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Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 14):
I know it is a famous tourist region, but is that the "famous" region for the newly weds and nearly deads from down under and elsewhere ?

I hadn't heard that -- but half the lift operators, ski/board instructors, bartenders, waiters, etc., etc, are from Australia. The Aussie government's warning about bad winters is falling on deaf ears (and the weather forecast is calling for snow over the next three days).

Two of BC's Interior ski hills -- Big White and Silver Star -- are owned by an Australian company. When cross country skiing at Silver Star, twice now we've run into the Australian national junior team out for exercise. So much for the bad winter warning.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineFiatstilojtd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1915 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 15):
When cross country skiing at Silver Star, twice now we've run into the Australian national junior team out for exercise. So much for the bad winter warning.

No warning on an official government site can ever change the "no worries" mentality of the Aussie people.  Wink


User currently offlineSpringbok747 From Australia, joined Nov 2004, 4387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1910 times:



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
I still do, hot women with Australian accents, how can you go wrong.

You can have them thanks. They may be hot, but most of the girls/women in this country are total bitches. I don't care what the other Aussies have to say about that..but thats what I've learnt from experience.



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User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1910 times:



Quoting AF340 (Thread starter):
Australia Claims Canada As Dangerous

See, something we Eskimos have known for a long time - that's why we all carry guns up here  duck  Never know when them uppity Yukoners are gonna get their panties in a twist and come cross that border in hordes!!!  silly 


User currently offlineScrubbsYWG From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 1495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1895 times:



Quoting Arrow (Reply 15):
I hadn't heard that -- but half the lift operators, ski/board instructors, bartenders, waiters, etc., etc, are from Australia. The Aussie government's warning about bad winters is falling on deaf ears (and the weather forecast is calling for snow over the next three days).

i think it is kiwis as well. a good chunk of the workers in the Banff resorts are all aussies and kiwis as well. they come here to work, since canada has some agreement with them for work visas. It is really kind of weird if you don't expect it. The first time i went to banff to ski, i was kind of taken aback with the fact most people working there had an accent from down under! It really is kinda weird!


User currently offlineAF340 From Canada, joined Jul 2007, 2786 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1878 times:



Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 8):
These are not the aussie people, this is the official government.

That's what I meant by aussies. I should have been clearer  Smile

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
Never know when them uppity Yukoners are gonna get their panties in a twist and come cross that border in hordes!!!

They are a shifty peoples  Wink




Liam spin 


User currently offlineRonglimeng From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 625 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

I think it is a good thing that would-be Australian visitors are warned about us and our country.

But the advisory doesn't go far enough.

It says absolutely nothing about the danger of collision with wild animals on our roads at night. Other countries have listed this danger, why didn't Australia???? You're driving along at night and you clip a skunk - it would spoil anybody's holiday!


User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8439 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1835 times:



Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 17):
They may be hot, but most of the girls/women in this country are total bitches.

100% agree.

Quoting Fiatstilojtd (Reply 16):
No warning on an official government site can ever change the "no worries" mentality of the Aussie people.

Exactly. Australians still travel in their droves to Indonesia and Thailand and both those countries have higher warnings. The warning for Canada is merely to point out conditions not normally faced in Australia. The Canadian media have blown this out of proportion.


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1815 times:



Quoting NeilYYZ (Reply 2):
I still do, hot women with Australian accents, how can you go wrong.

How can you go wrong? The Australian accent Big grin No offense to aussies here, but the way aussie chicks speak drives me mad. They end every sentence like it was a question. Strike up a convo with an Aussie chick at a ski hill here and you'll know what I mean.

"I'm Sarah from Melbourne?"

"The skiing was great today? The weather was just perfect?"

"I'm headed to Vancouver tomorrow?"


ARRGH!!!



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User currently offlineStealthZ From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5678 posts, RR: 45
Reply 24, posted (6 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
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Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 18):
Never know when them uppity Yukoners are gonna get their panties in a twist and come cross that border in hordes!!!

Hordes of Yukoners! Do they have hordes, 32,000 of them spread out over half a million sq Km, Hell it is one of the few places that makes Australia look crowded(or Alaska overpopulated)  Wink

Chris



If your camera sends text messages, that could explain why your photos are rubbish!
25 ScrubbsYWG : that damn qantas aussie airpass commercial kills me : "we saved you a spot on the beach" "we turned on the lights" "where the bloody hell are you" oh
26 Post contains images Fiatstilojtd : You carry guns for the polar bear chasing, everything else is an extra.
27 Baroque : Just be thankful that some may take a hint. You should see Aus drivers on perfectly dry roads, let alone snowy ones. And if BC is short of earthquake
28 Post contains images Canuckpaxguy : Liam relax!! You're going to give yourself a coronary stressing over stuff like this. It's no big deal ... Aussie's aren't stupid, nor are they afrai
29 LH423 : Bahhh...where's the "Not this shit again" picture? I challenge some of you to sift through the 300+ responses on the Globe And Mail comments section
30 Post contains links Banco : Of course they do. It's a complete non-issue. The British FCO usually preface advisories like this with a statement like "Most visits to xxx are trou
31 Post contains links Baroque : I find the Aus one on Indonesia extremely "interesting". There was a great fuss because prior to the Bali I bombing DFAT excluded Bali whereas there
32 Post contains links Dougloid : It is a non issue. Here's the source of the advisory and I saw the same language for every country in Europe I looked at. Nobody's picking on Canada s
33 Post contains images Bmacleod : Canada a bigger terrorist threat than Australia? Canada did not participate in the Iraq invasion which Australia did. We didn't have a leader like Joh
34 Post contains images AF340 : Well if I mysteriously disappear, you know it's those shifty Aussies that got me. Liam
35 Baroque : New for you Bmac, neither do we nowadays: praise be to Kevin from Heavin - and that is where Kevin sends most of his praise, not to GWB at all at all
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