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User currently offlineWingnut767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2326 times:

Al-Qaida commander in Afghanistan killed By PAUL SCHEMM, Associated Press Writer


CAIRO, Egypt - Abu Laith al-Libi, a top al-Qaida commander in Afghanistan who was blamed for bombing a base while Vice President Cheney was visiting last year, has been killed, according to a militant Web site.

Al-Libi was a key link between the Taliban and al-Qaida and was one of the Americans' 12 most-wanted men with a bounty of $200,000 on his head.

The Web site, which frequently carries announcements from militant groups, said al-Libi had been "martyred" but did not say where he was killed.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080131/...p_on_re_mi_ea/al_qaida_afghanistan




They are saying that they got him with a drone and Maverick.






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User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2323 times:

AWESOME!!! Great job, guys!

Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
They are saying that they got him with a drone and Maverick.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h56/kmaf/Crap/2008_01_17reaper.jpg


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

That's great! But I'm afraid another one will just take his place and the cycle will continue.


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User currently offlineWingnut767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2290 times:



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
That's great! But I'm afraid another one will just take his place and the cycle will continue.

We have a large stock of mavericks


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2288 times:



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
That's great! But I'm afraid another one will just take his place and the cycle will continue.

So? Then we'll kill him too, and the next one, and the next one. We have more missiles, bombs, and bullets than they do applicants.




-NWA742


User currently offlineYellowstone From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3071 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2286 times:



Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
That's great! But I'm afraid another one will just take his place and the cycle will continue.

I'm reminded of a Bill Maher segment where he pointed out that we've killed "the No. 3 guy in Al Qaeda" about twelve times now.



Hydrogen is an odorless, colorless gas which, given enough time, turns into people.
User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2281 times:



Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
Al-Qaida commander in Afghanistan killed By PAUL SCHEMM, Associated Press Writer

I never thought the news people were that involved with the war!  Wow!  Wink

Cal  airplane 



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User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2264 times:



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
So? Then we'll kill him too, and the next one, and the next one. We have more missiles, bombs, and bullets than they do applicants.

Thus far it has worked exactly the other way around if you cared to check.


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2252 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Thus far it has worked exactly the other way around if you cared to check.

Gee, what a mistake on our part - I mean, history has shown us that ignoring rather than killing them is the better direction....right.




-NWA742


User currently offlineQueso From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2223 times:



Quoting Wingnut767 (Reply 3):
We have a large stock of mavericks



Quoting Klaus (Reply 7):
Thus far it has worked exactly the other way around if you cared to check.

I actually agree with you on this one. Considering how the economy of scale concept works, we should consider going with a nuke. Much better bang for the buck.


User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2205 times:



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 8):
Gee, what a mistake on our part

Yes, Klaus is upset because that man lived a very green lifestyle. As does OBL and all of his friends.

Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
Much better bang for the buck.

Yes but the fallout is a killer.  wink 


User currently offlineMDorBust From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2205 times:



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 10):
Yes but the fallout is a killer.

Isn't that a bonus?


User currently offlineZTagged From Niger, joined Oct 2007, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2185 times:



Quoting Wingnut767 (Thread starter):
Al-Qaida commander in Afghanistan killed By PAUL SCHEMM

I read that as "Terrorist leader killed by AP writer", not Killed - Written by ..

I'm tired, aren't I?



Something awful.
User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21442 posts, RR: 53
Reply 13, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2163 times:



Quoting NWA742 (Reply 8):
Gee, what a mistake on our part - I mean, history has shown us that ignoring rather than killing them is the better direction....right.

That's never been the alternative, as discussed many times before.

Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
I actually agree with you on this one. Considering how the economy of scale concept works, we should consider going with a nuke. Much better bang for the buck.

Mass murder on the odd chance of maybe(!) hitting one or two terrorists? Well, your thinking is already difficult to distinguish from theirs, that much is certain.

Remind me again - what was it, again, that made you one of the good guys...?  eyebrow 


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2150 times:



Quoting ZTagged (Reply 12):
I read that as "Terrorist leader killed by AP writer", not Killed - Written by ..

That's the way it's written, that's why, I thought the same.

Good that another asshole has left this world, unfortunately another will just step up and take his place though, but at least a significant amount of knowledge and experience has been extinguished. He was a commander because he was extremely good at being an asshole.


Dan Smile



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4880 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2145 times:



Quoting Queso (Reply 9):
I actually agree with you on this one. Considering how the economy of scale concept works, we should consider going with a nuke. Much better bang for the buck.

1) The USA would not in this day and age DARE take this action without the express support of the EU. Support it would never get.
2) Even if it did, the rest of the Muslim world would not stand by idly. In all likelihood US entities would endure a shit storm.
3) If you managed to level the whole of West and North Africa, the middle east, Indonesia, Malaysia and all other Muslim dominated spots then what? Birmingham, UK? Where would it stop?

With all of the above in mind not only is your idea ridiculous in its arrogance, it's not something that will ever happen and even if it did that too would only serve to further escalate the problem.

As far this "victory" goes, as long as it's not Osama Bin Laden it is meaningless.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2145 times:
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Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 2):
I'm afraid another one will just take his place and the cycle will continue.

Probably, but the quality of the replacements has to get worse as you keep proving that its a "killer" job...eventually smart guys won't take the job if they believe that we wont stop killing them.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 5):
I'm reminded of a Bill Maher segment where he pointed out that we've killed "the No. 3 guy in Al Qaeda" about twelve times now.

Yeah....let's keep getting the replacements and make it tougher for them to find competents who are interested in the job.

Quoting NWA742 (Reply 4):
So? Then we'll kill him too, and the next one, and the next one. We have more missiles, bombs, and bullets than they do applicants.

I worry that we don't have the national will to stay with the fight long enough to allow political and economic changes to make life sufficiently better in the regions that the terrorists run out of people sufficiently hopeless to become terrorists.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 13):
Remind me again - what was it, again, that made you one of the good guys...?

Defeating Germany in the Second World War for one thing?



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User currently offlineRJdxer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2133 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 15):
) The USA would not in this day and age DARE take this action without the express support of the EU.

You're kidding right?

Quoting YOWza (Reply 15):
If you managed to level the whole of West and North Africa, the middle east, Indonesia, Malaysia and all other Muslim dominated spots then what?

Not that we would use them but there are plenty of nukes that have a yield that is far below that of the city busters loaded on boomers.


User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21570 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2132 times:



Quoting DL021 (Reply 16):
Probably, but the quality of the replacements has to get worse as you keep proving that its a "killer" job...eventually smart guys won't take the job if they believe that we wont stop killing them.

Somehow I get the feeling that smart guys aren't taking the job regardless. Either you don't care about being killed (or at least say so), or you don't rise that far in a terrorist organization.

-Mir



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User currently offlineDavestanKSAN From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1678 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2130 times:



Quoting DL021 (Reply 16):
I worry that we don't have the national will to stay with the fight long enough to allow political and economic changes to make life sufficiently better in the regions that the terrorists run out of people sufficiently hopeless to become terrorists.

But haven't we (the US) done enough for the Iraqi (as one of the regions the terrorists run out of) people? When will the Iraqi government step up and do its part? We have written them a blank check so to speak, and its time they step up to the plate. If not, the time frame for us to be in Iraq (according to some) could be decades away. How long are we willing to let the Iraqi government go without serious pressure on them to step up and change? I realize the transformation won't happen overnight, but has there been any significant benchmarks met by the Iraqi government? How long can we keep up Troop levels (post surge) without significantly thinning our military?

To further that point, what about the Iraqi people? Is there willingness on their part to accept democracy as we have imposed upon them? A viable solution has to be met by both the Iraqi people and by their government.

And haven't we lost track of Afghanistan? President Bush recently said he would add 3,200 Marines there in his State of the Union address. But is it too late? Hasn't President Bush's Iraq War cost us dearly in the fight against terrorists in Afghanistan? I believe it has. How long can we keep fighting two wars with the current Troop levels? How will our Military cope with that?

Just some questions that I feel have been left unanswered.

Dave



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User currently offlineBagpiper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2124 times:



Quoting RJdxer (Reply 10):
Yes but the fallout is a killer.

Just detonate higher up then  Wink

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 14):
He was a commander because he was extremely good at being an asshole.

nice one!

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 19):
How long can we keep up Troop levels (post surge) without significantly thinning our military?

You can thank Clinton for that problem.

Quoting DavestanKSAN (Reply 19):

I agree with you - while we need to keep fighting the war, I'm starting to wonder about the $$ issue and the troops. However, I have a feeling that if we don't deal with the "assholes" right now, then it'll be a bigger problem in the future.

Turning a blind eye to the problem doesn't solve it, folks. I learned that in 2nd grade  Wink


User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2114 times:



Quoting Klaus (Reply 13):
That's never been the alternative, as discussed many times before.

And yet the world in which we've seemingly pissed off so much over Iraq/Afganistan has offered no alternatives other than surrendering and/or negotiation with extremists. Thumbs up to you guys!

Quoting Klaus (Reply 13):
Remind me again - what was it, again, that made you one of the good guys...?

What made us one of the bad ones? I'm not surprised you feel that way, just curious.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 16):
I worry that we don't have the national will to stay with the fight long enough to allow political and economic changes to make life sufficiently better in the regions that the terrorists run out of people sufficiently hopeless to become terrorists.

Yes, I agree. People don't have the stomach for it anymore. We've become a nation of politically correct pussies, and we will pay for it harshly, I'm afraid. I just hope we prevail again.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." John Stuart Mill.


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-NWA742


User currently offlineAllstarflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2095 times:



Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 5):
I'm reminded of a Bill Maher segment where he pointed out that we've killed "the No. 3 guy in Al Qaeda" about twelve times now.

Then #4 had better hope he isn't promoted or ask to be promoted directly alongside #2. In the end, it wouldn't matter, though, if they make the obits - if so, they're all just posturing for rank in their obit headlines.


User currently offlineCaptOveur From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

Ever see the movie Traffic? It was about drugs but a lot of things are similar.. not that Afghanistan doesn't have plenty of drug lords.

Anyway, there was a scene almost at the end of Traffic where a witness explains to the cops guarding him how they indirectly work for the drug cartels.

Just like here. We probably got a tip from another bad guy about where this douchebike was hiding. We go blow up the douchebike. Now the army the douchebike commanded is without a leader, and his territory is up for grabs. Who is most likely going to take it over? The guy who gave us the tip. It's a constant game of chasing our tail. I just wonder how many decades are we going to keep playing it for. Yes, we have Al-Queada and the Taliban, and all the other bad guys on the run and going underground. Do people honestly believe we can stop them by killing all of them? They will always be there.


User currently offlineRJAF From Jordan, joined Jan 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (6 years 7 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

Good riddance..these people only understand death and violence!


Chance favors the prepared mind
25 Post contains images Baroque : Care to bet? Just so. Except that OBL seems to have done such an excellent job on succession planning that getting OBL would achieve about the same.
26 Klaus : Fighting terrorism with blunt force very rarely works, if ever. That was an entirely different generation fighting an entirely different fight. Not r
27 Baroque : Good grief, joined at the second joint of the typing fingers again it seems. The three secs must be the delay on the circuits to Germany.
28 Post contains images Queso : Wow, tough crowd! I guess I should stick to the squirting flower next time. Aw man, c'mon! "Murder" is such an ugly word. And you don't use the bigge
29 RJdxer : Where do you start the negotiating process when their opening position is "you are the devil and we want to kill you"? And negotiating with terrorist
30 Miamiair : He died of natural causes. Lead and copper are found in nature are they not?
31 Aaron747 : Problem is that only works on people who haven't made becoming a martyr their lifelong ambition. At some point you need to start thinking bigger than
32 Queso : Yeah, but they're not normally used as a suppository at 3,200 fps.
33 RJdxer : Then you have to explain how you deal with a Timothy McVeigh. Just because a particular portion of a populace decides they want to be terrorist does
34 JakeOrion : Who? How? When? I want news articles, facts and links.
35 Aaron747 : We're not talking about outliers like McVeigh. Curiously, your second sentences has also negated any practical use for nuclear weapons in this fight
36 Miamiair : I wouldn't say anyone has won that fight yet. That many EU countries have coped and adapted to it, yes. But the US is a larger target for terrorism.
37 Aaron747 : Not to slam my fellow countrymen too hard, but this is part of the reason Americans end up looking like uneducated simpletons on these issues at time
38 Miamiair : Do elaborate, I am a dumbass that I don't know my ass from my elbow.
39 CaptOveur : Then we are in the clear!! I don't think any movies have yet been made about Afghanistan- shitty or otherwise.
40 RJdxer : A terrorist is a terrorist no matter whether they are one or many. On a strictal numerical basis, McVeigh killed more per person than the 9/11 hijack
41 RJdxer : Of course, evidently so is living in Hamburg.
42 Post contains links Baroque : Well you start at the beginning. The first thing you need to do is to disregard their extreme statements and try to stop from making them yourself (t
43 Post contains images Klaus : Probably... A suitably ugly word for a decidedly ugly thing. Just a tiny little mass murder, right? At the cost of how many civilian casualties? Okay
44 Post contains images Klaus : Most hamburgers can bear their dire fate with dignity without becoming terrorists, so that's most probably not it. Although there's that other kind o
45 Miamiair : In your opinion, to which you are entitled.
46 Klaus : I'm not nearly the only one to see a vast gulf of difference between the former bringers of hope and freedom and the current purveyors of torture, la
47 Post contains links Baroque : Reminds me of the TV program Sleek Geeks http://www.abc.net.au/tv/guide/netw/...rams/ZY8971A006D7022008T200000.htm where Carl K and Adam Spencer ask
48 Queso : Klaus, what would peaceniks like you do without war mongers like me? You'd be in chains (or worse) right now. Truth is, you appreciate our existence
49 Klaus : There is a world of difference between warmongers and war winners. You, Bush and Cheney could take a few lessons to learn what that difference actual
50 Miamiair : I would torture every sonuvabitch that was going to harm my fellow citizens to keep any harm from occuring. The memory is still fresh in my mind of t
51 Aaron747 : Directly, or indirectly, does it matter? The streams of finance coming into Saudi Arabia occur with very little lack of awareness or oversight on the
52 Queso : And you could take a few lessons on what the cost of freedom really is because you apparently have no concept of the price.
53 Klaus : The trouble is that outside of "24" in real life things look very, very differently than they do on TV. It is weird to see how many americans never s
54 Miamiair : What is your idea to fight fairly?
55 JakeOrion : Those organizations were not extremist willing to sacrifice themselves just to KILL YOU. Big difference. Apples and oranges, again, they are not extr
56 Klaus : Freedom has clearly not been served by the Iraq invasion, by Abu Ghraib, by Guantanamo Bay, by "rendition" and most certainly not by any nuclear atta
57 Aaron747 : Indeed. Not to mention that a number of the country's leading combat veterans and intelligence analysts have repeatedly emphasized the accepted notio
58 Post contains links RJdxer : Quoting Baroque (Reply 42): Well you start at the beginning. The question was rhetorical, there is no beginning for negotiations with AQ and certainly
59 Klaus : You have no idea about that part of history, do you? I've got no time to spare right now to make up for the gaps in your education. Google is your fr
60 Aaron747 : Perhaps not, but they were certainly willing to kill the innocent for the purposes of achieving their aims. An extremist is an extremist, categorizat
61 RJdxer : That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. We (United States) allow Muslims to worship, unmolested, in this country at their leisure. Do you believe
62 Post contains links Aaron747 : And once again, your circular reasoning points to random bits of nothing that bear no relation to the discussion at hand. Still waiting for your answ
63 Queso : Oh please, throwing all of those things into the same category is really silly.
64 Post contains images Baroque : It is OK RJd, we already have your file marked "not suitable as a negotiator". You think? Have you ever read any contemporary material from either si
65 MDorBust : What? The Germans and the British weren't fighting during WWII? What kind of revisionist history are we getting into now?
66 RJdxer : I gave you an answer a few posts back. To which you replied, To which I say yes it does. You have no proof whatsoever that the King or any of his dir
67 YOWza : All of those "things" supposedly tie in together and are the reason that things are in such disarray. Abu Ghraib would never have happened had the in
68 Post contains links and images Baroque : Well just hope that the west can come up with folk more inventive and adaptive than either of us - I suspect it will, and I do know it will have to.
69 SBBRTech : Hey, it took them long enough...how did they find him? Infiltrated spooks? These terror guys will eventually run out of virgins in paradise so their
70 Post contains links JakeOrion : Which is why I asked for links, but you refuse to do so: By saying this, it immediately makes your argument invalid are you are failing to "teach" me
71 Aaron747 : Did you check any of the provided links, at all? If you google Saudi support for madrassas, you'll find thousands of references. Very few of them act
72 RJdxer : Yes, read all of them, nothing directly links the King, his immediate staff, or any of the high Princes to facilitating terrorists or using the kingd
73 QANTAS077 : your living in fantasy land if you think you can systematically wipe out an enemy you can't see... for all the bombs, missiles, tanks etc...there is
74 RJdxer : If this is true, then how come bombings have dropped off precipitously in the past 6 months?
75 Aaron747 : ^ Because if you're actually listening to anything the commanders on the ground have been saying, their community outreach efforts have been remarkabl
76 RJdxer : I assume you were responding to my post in which case those things are possible because of all our backing up and securing the country.
77 Post contains links Wingnut767 : Please go to the below website and watch the speech by Pete Hegseth of vets for freedom which aired on the BBC Also there was a poll taken before and
78 QANTAS077 : yea...like the bombs strapped to two mentally handicapped ladies 2 days ago and detonated for maximum impact, don't be so naive...they can reach out
79 RJdxer : It's ok, as I pointed out in another thread, Utopians and liberals will never admit that things have taken a turn for the better in Iraq. That they a
80 Baroque : Or it could be realists and liberals do not think one day a summer makes. Using the infirm tells me they had another trick up their sleeve. It has be
81 RJdxer : Change realists to defeatists and you are on target. Or that the well has run dry and most would be suicide bombers have realized that dying for a dy
82 Baroque : If being a Utopian means thinking that having suicide bombers in a pet market is not an ideal state of things, then call me a Utopian if you like. I
83 EvilForce : Agreed. For 5 years they told us "we're turning the corner", "mission accomplished", "just another few months", "it's hard", "just wait until their e
84 Itsjustme : I'm far from being either but unless you've been hiding under a rock for the past few days, surely you're aware of the recent bombings. I have a feel
85 RJdxer : 1. You have complained that the country is not secure and that our presence only incites more idiots to blow themselves up. The simple fact is that s
86 Post contains images EvilForce : No that was Ronald Reagan after the bombing in Lebanon. I had said from the beginning we shouldn't go. But once idiot boy went in with 1/2 or 1/3 of
87 Baroque : Eerily similar to parts of the Vietnam story. In some ways Petraeus seems better than Westmoreland, but he may well be blessed with a similar legacy.
88 ME AVN FAN : Sure. But a hit is a hit. And he WAS of some importance. Whenever everybody can be replaced, the replacement very often is not up to the "original" i
89 Itsjustme : No argument here. My point is, just as another poster pointed out - the recent bombings illustrate the region is no more secure now than it was pre-s
90 RJdxer : If your are going to judge it on this one event you're right. Taken in context the entire country, and even this region are more secure than before t
91 Wingnut767 : Just like here in the States Mall Gunman Who Killed Five Women Target of Massive Manhunt Virginia Tech Massacre Report Criticizes University's Respon
92 RJdxer : As usual, your facts are wrong, the library is still calling, plenty of books to read. Thanks for confirming what we already knew, anything after tha
93 CupraIbiza : Wow almost a world record "long bow" To compare the Marshall Plan to paying the Sunni guerrillas. What logic do you use to connect the two?
94 Baroque : Nice riposte Cupral. I was mulling some words over along those line as I scrolled down, but that is more better than anything I was going to think!!
95 Post contains images KC135TopBoom : If they are hiding the terrorist, then they support the terrorist, that makes them terrorists too. Killing bad guys.
96 Post contains links Jonathan-l : As an example I know, France has had to deal with Islamic terrorism. You can look up Rue des Rosiers (1986), St Michel subway station (1995), Air Fra
97 RJdxer : Simple logic, if we support them their chances of winning are that much better. Same as our support for western european democracy helped stave off S
98 KC135TopBoom : That is correct, Germany has also had many terrorist events, like the Olympics in Munich. The problem is, as I see it, the Europeans tend to catch th
99 Baroque : Oh god, we are back to the pigs blood level of logic. OK, i am gone. Why is that sort of stuff permitted?
100 EvilForce : First you say: Then you refute with: By your own tortured logic you are a terrorist. Why is it that the uber-Christians that belch up into these threa
101 ME AVN FAN : - and by such a statement testifying that your standards are not any better than those of some terrorists
102 Post contains images HAWK21M : What about states that sponsor terrorists,& theres more than Iran,Iraq & N.Korea . regds MEL
103 CF188A : Hey so I did not read anything above because there is simply to much to read.... so are you people pretty much agreeing that nuking the middle east wo
104 CupraIbiza : Not sure where you have gone but I am hot on your heals. Also Baroque I have to pull you up - pigs blood and logic should never be in the same sentan
105 GDB : Well it's not a bad thing this prick is gone, will the replacement be more effective, or less? Who knows. But don't think for one minute this is anyth
106 CupraIbiza : Wouldnt the constant addition of "fuel" prefent it "burning itself out" though? Sensational post by the way
107 Post contains images EvilForce : And look at the economy of Ireland. Once the "poor kid on the block", Ireland became a growing tiger. So what were the choices? Keep fighting the sam
108 KC135TopBoom : If I instill fear into the terrorists, then so be it. But, somehow, I don't think that is true that they fear me. I am Catholic, and I know what the
109 CupraIbiza : Nice deflection. Does that mean you concede my point regarding an infinite number of terrorists? Just because my government has a position doesnt mea
110 Post contains links ME AVN FAN : Neither. The economy of Ireland was on its way UP exactly in the period when N.I. was in turmoil. It did not start after N.I. got calmer. And Ireland
111 Baroque : Rule of thumb MAF, he who spreads pig's blood on a thread is not to be taken seriously. poor old James C, forgotten more than almost any other pollie
112 ME AVN FAN : James Callaghan was one of the nicest British Prime Ministers, and he was quite capable, but his "reign" ruined by the trades-unions who were against
113 Baroque : Yes he was. In trivial pursuit questions here, just about the most tricky questions seems to be "who was PM in the UK before Maggie T?" The trades un
114 ME AVN FAN : - it in a way WAS the best way. Later on, also countries like France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria etc had to give up on outdated scrap-industry. Mu
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