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Microsoft Wants To Purchase Yahoo For $44bn  
User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5162 posts, RR: 33
Posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2133 times:



Quote:

Microsoft has offered to buy the search engine company Yahoo for $44.6bn (£22.4bn) in cash and shares.

The offer, contained in a letter to Yahoo's board, represents a 62% premium above Yahoo's closing share price on the Nasdaq on Thursday.

It is an attempt by Microsoft to improve the online services that it offers to its customers.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7222114.stm

that should give google a run for its money! But $44bn? jesus!


That'll teach you
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User currently offlineJetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2807 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2127 times:
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Nooooo! I don't want Micorosft to run Yahoo. I like it how it is.
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User currently offlineZakHH From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

Why you think Yahoo is a cool company?
 Wink


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13138 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2110 times:

NO NO NO NO. This should be denied on anti-trust grounds by US and EC regulators. It would destroy 1000's of good paying jobs in the USA and the rest of the world, it would give MS too much power in the computer world, where the already monopolise as to operating and other critical software and it would destroy and discourage competition and innovation in tech.

User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 2003, 14060 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2104 times:



Quoting ZakHH (Reply 2):
Why you think Yahoo is a cool company?

Yahoo provides at least a relatively spam free email system, compared to Microsift's Hotmail.

Jan


User currently offlineFuturecaptain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2096 times:



Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 4):
Yahoo provides at least a relatively spam free email system

 rotfl 
I get 5-10 spam messages a day. Ever since moving over to the new and improved yahoo mail I can't block e-mail addresses anymore so spam pours into my inbox.


User currently offlinePs76 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Wow $44Bn! You could probably buy quite a few countries for that amount of cash(!)

Maybe they could just do that instead - Microsoftland!

P.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2050 times:



Quoting Nighthawk (Thread starter):

that should give google a run for its money! But $44bn? jesus!

Wow this dwarfs the $20M they paid to buy some of my company's IP last year.

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 3):
NO NO NO NO. This should be denied on anti-trust grounds by US and EC regulators. It would destroy 1000's of good paying jobs in the USA and the rest of the world, it would give MS too much power in the computer world, where the already monopolise as to operating and other critical software and it would destroy and discourage competition and innovation in tech.

That's completely wrong. The main purpose of this deal from MS's perspective would be to bolster their offerings in an effort to combat the booming Google.

At this stage there is now way to know that 1000s of jobs would be lost. As far as having too much power in the computer world that is also wrong. One must understand that though they have achieved OS dominance the Web (an entirely different entity) is still wide open with the biggest and most dominant player being Google.

YOWza



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User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

There goes my Yahoo e-mail account down the drain.

I'm glad I use Gmail as my primary one.

Microsoft can go to Hell.


User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2036 times:



Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 5):
I get 5-10 spam messages a day. Ever since moving over to the new and improved yahoo mail I can't block e-mail addresses anymore so spam pours into my inbox.

It might pay off to read his whole post.

He said compared to Hotmail, which I got nearly 15-20 spammers a day when I had it.


User currently offlineLTU932 From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 13864 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

I doubt the EU and US antitrust authorities will allow this deal to happen. The only reason Microsoft is even considering it is because Yahoo is losing money, which probably makes it cheaper for them to buy out Yahoo and make their applications their own. But still, I doubt the antitrust authorities will allow this deal, Yahoo and Microshaft are too big for it and it would create the possibility of a monopoly.

User currently offlinePope From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2025 times:



Quoting LTU932 (Reply 10):
I doubt the EU and US antitrust authorities will allow this deal to happen.

Why? What part of the market does MS gain a monopoly in as a result of this transaction?


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2005 times:



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 8):
There goes my Yahoo e-mail account down the drain.

I'm glad I use Gmail as my primary one.

Microsoft can go to Hell.

Wow such disdain. Care to elicit exactly what MS has done to breed such hatred in you? Or are you just like 90% of MS haters, who hate just because they are on top?

YOWza



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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 2003, 14060 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2003 times:



Quoting Futurecaptain (Reply 5):
Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 4):
Yahoo provides at least a relatively spam free email system

rotfl
I get 5-10 spam messages a day. Ever since moving over to the new and improved yahoo mail I can't block e-mail addresses anymore so spam pours into my inbox.

With Yahoo, 95% of the spam messages end up in the junk mail box, with maybe 2-3 aday in the inbox, but with Hotmail most end up in the inbox.

Jan


User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2002 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 12):
Wow such disdain. Care to elicit exactly what MS has done to breed such hatred in you? Or are you just like 90% of MS haters, who hate just because they are on top?

Nope, I'm actually a proud MAC user.

Just because they are on top, doesn't mean they offer the best product.

I never have any problems with my MacBook, can't say the same for past Windows machines I have owned....


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1992 times:



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 14):
Nope, I'm actually a proud MAC user.

Just because they are on top, doesn't mean they offer the best product.

I never have any problems with my MacBook, can't say the same for past Windows machines I have owned....

Wow, you're a Mac user! Amazing! Do you power your Mac with you own sense of self satisfaction? Do you have enough knowledge to make a meaningful assessment or have you been so well hooked by kitschy marketing that you have this inexplicable, zealous fidelity to Mac? You failing to maintain and operate a PC is hardly the fault of MS. It boggles my mind how people can make such brash statements in domains they know nothing about.

YOWza



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User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1987 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 15):
Wow, you're a Mac user! Amazing! Do you power your Mac with you own sense of self satisfaction? Do you have enough knowledge to make a meaningful assessment or have you been so well hooked by kitschy marketing that you have this inexplicable, zealous fidelity to Mac? You failing to maintain and operate a PC is hardly the fault of MS. It boggles my mind how people can make such brash statements in domains they know nothing about.

How in the Hell would you know how much I know about computers?

Looks like you're the one making brash statements about something you know nothing about.

I'm sorry if you have a problem with me making negative statements about Microsoft, but trust me, I'm not the only one.


User currently offlineSBBRTech From Brazil, joined Jul 2007, 722 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1977 times:



Quoting Ps76 (Reply 6):
Wow $44Bn! You could probably buy quite a few countries for that amount of cash(!)

Maybe they could just do that instead - Microsoftland!

Bill could go and buy Yahoo with his own money and become the only guy in the planet with a @yahoo mail account.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1949 times:



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 16):
How in the Hell would you know how much I know about computers?

Looks like you're the one making brash statements about something you know nothing about.

I'm sorry if you have a problem with me making negative statements about Microsoft, but trust me, I'm not the only one.

Age 16-20, so unless you're a child prodigy I'm assuming you don't have a Software Engineering degree. I on the other hand do. Nothing brash about that.

As for you not being the only one, well

Quoting YOWza (Reply 15):
It boggles my mind how people can make such brash statements in domains they know nothing about.

people is plural. Do you need some clarification?

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1942 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 18):
Age 16-20, so unless you're a child prodigy I'm assuming you don't have a Software Engineering degree. I on the other hand do. Nothing brash about that.

I'm 20 and in college, I've been around computers pretty much my whole life.

It doesn't take a software engineering degree to know a lot about computers. I made the decision to switch to a MAC, and I haven't had any problems so far.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 18):
people is plural. Do you need some clarification?

I think I'll pass on the clarification.

But thanks anyway.  Yeah sure


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1932 times:



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 19):
I'm 20 and in college, I've been around computers pretty much my whole life.

It doesn't take a software engineering degree to know a lot about computers. I made the decision to switch to a MAC, and I haven't had any problems so far.

Any 20 year old in the developed world has been around computers pretty much their whole life. Besides the last time I checked Microsoft's focus is not making computers, they make software, hence MicroSOFT. Since they make software, understanding of software design, implementation and maintenance is a huge factor.

Would you value the opinion on a a manual transmission design from somebody who can't drive standard?

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineAAce24 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1927 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 20):
Besides the last time I checked Microsoft's focus is not making computers, they make software, hence MicroSOFT.

First of all, I used the word "computer" loosely. As in the whole general aspect of things. I'm fully aware that Microsoft makes software, not computers.

Quoting YOWza (Reply 20):
Would you value the opinion on a a manual transmission design from somebody who can't drive standard?

Second of all, just because someone isn't a "software engineer" means they can't have an opinion on whether they think Microsoft sucks? My opinion was based solely on first hand experience with Windows, it had lots of security problems, too much junk you don't need.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4900 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1919 times:



Quoting AAce24 (Reply 21):
First of all, I used the word "computer" loosely. As in the whole general aspect of things. I'm fully aware that Microsoft makes software, not computers.

That in itself displays a lack of understanding.

Quoting AAce24 (Reply 21):

Second of all, just because someone isn't a "software engineer" means they can't have an opinion on whether they think Microsoft sucks? My opinion was based solely on first hand experience with Windows, it had lots of security problems, too much junk you don't need.

You are entitled to your opinion. I have never said otherwise. All I've been trying to get out of you since the first post was on what basis you made your assertion that they suck. It took till now for you to name reasons. Security wise I would agree there are some vulnerabilities, but nothing glaring. If you think you are home free on the Mac you are wrong. As for the "junk" everything that is non-essential can be disabled.

Don't get me wrong I'm not shitting on the mac. In fact I am contemplating getting one to fiddle with.

YOWza



12A whenever possible.
User currently offlineORFflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1916 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 18):
I'm assuming you don't have a Software Engineering degree. I on the other hand do.

And like most software engineers, you have the tact of a freight train running through a glass factory.  Yeah sure


Personally, I don't give a crap about who MS buys, or how much money Bill Gates makes. Until someone else takes over market share - Microsoft will stay on top. And to take over market share, someone will have to build a better mousetrap.


User currently offlineNighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5162 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (6 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1907 times:



Quoting ORFflyer (Reply 23):
Until someone else takes over market share - Microsoft will stay on top

ever considered a career as a business consultant? Companys will pay a fortune for such words of wisdom  Silly



That'll teach you
25 YOWza : Well normally I have a tremendous amount of tact but if you follow the thread you will see that I was challenged in such a way that necessitated that
26 Pyrex : Not only that, but also an open mousetrap, not one that only works with Mac (&?) cheese.
27 MD11Engineer : Alternatives exist, e.g. I have been using Linux since years on my desktop ( I moved over after I had repeated problems with Windows 1998) and I'm qu
28 YOWza : Unfortunately most people are too lazy or inept to do make this change. It's fair enough really, Linux is (or at least was) harder to get off the gro
29 AAce24 : Really? Might want to go back and look at who started the challenge.
30 YOWza : So by asserting that I have an software engineering degree and that you don't I was validating my intial pointin response to your defensive jab. Real
31 Post contains images Bagpiper : Wow, how mature! How about you go to hell, too? Just a suggestion. Could you give some reasons MS should go to hell? "If you're catching flak, you're
32 SBBRTech : I hear you. I'd love to flash my Qtek's ROM with a "LinuxMobile"....but the last linux based smartphone I tried (Motorola A1200i ) seemed too underde
33 Post contains links Klaus : That's one of the primary mistakes many people make about Apple - underestimating the impact their products have by their own merits. Even "civilians
34 Elite : Apple's operating system is clearly on top after the release of Microsoft Vista. Vista has basically become a major failure for Microsoft, with users,
35 Post contains images YOWza : Please don't get me wrong, I have said throughout this thread that Mac's offer a good experience and for the most part push out solid products. I was
36 Post contains images Klaus : That's what I was getting at - good usability and an overall positive user experience is quite difficult to describe and argue, even if it is immedia
37 Post contains links and images Springbok747 : Has Microsoft already bought Yahoo? This was the first thing I saw when I went to the Yahoo page today...hmm interesting..they're already badmouthing
38 Post contains images Bagpiper : CNN has done the same thing - "badmouthing" Mac. Oh noes, MS must own them too!! They're just reporting the news in the typical media fashion.... mak
39 Klaus : I see nothing really out of the ordinary... many people (and especially journalists) are complaining about real or imagined shortcomings of the Air -
40 A380US : Highly doubt this will happen Yahoo just seems to big to be purchased
41 Andz : Sky News just reported that Yahoo are going to reject the offer, calling it "massively undervalued". This according to the WSJ.
42 Post contains images LASOctoberB6 : I really hate it when you guys make these big long posts. I really want to be able to understand where you're coming from, but looking at those just
43 Post contains images Klaus : Sorry!
44 Post contains images YOWza : Well Klaus, I know that you are a champion of Apple and that's OK because you do make valid points with sound reason. This is more than can be said f
45 Post contains links and images Klaus : At least I'm trying to... It may sometimes appear that way; But once you take a closer look at the issue, the reason why so many Mac users seem to ha
46 YOWza : Ya they did, I'm in San Jose right now and it's all people seem to be talking about. YOWza
47 Post contains images Klaus : And looking at the way the two stocks have developed, investors appear to believe as well that it would be a great opportunity for the Yahoo owners t
48 YOWza : hehe at least you're coming clean. The way I see it this deal will happen one way or another. On its own Yahoo is vulnerable it needs cash and other
49 Post contains images Soku39 : I just hope that nothing would happen to flickr if this were to go through... I love that site.
50 Bill142 : MS offered a 62% premium to the Yahoo share price. I'd hard call that undervalued. The board of Yahoo better take some fast steps to unlock that valu
51 Elite : I read that it would be expected for Microsoft to upgrade the offer and then Yahoo would accept it. Can't see Google too happy about that.
52 Post contains links Ctbarnes : Yahoo's board said "No" this morning: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23108332/ Charles, SJ
53 Dougloid : A lady once asked Louis Armstrong what his music was about. The Satch was supposed to have said "lady, if you have to ask, you'll never understand it
54 Post contains images Klaus : And that is one of the main reasons why people keep using Macs - they waste a lot less of your time than Windows PCs for just keeping them up and run
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